Rodgers Wants A New Contract?

If Rodgers wanted to play until at least 40, why in the sam hill did he sign the contract the way it is set up? Either Rodgers was stupid enough to think the FO would not do anything about a successor until the day he rode off into the sunset, or he thought he would not play long enough well enough to see the end of the contract. In either case, he was not under duress when he signed the contract. He can be all pissy about signing it and he can want it renegotiated, but the fact is it's his signature and he knows how the NFL operates.

If he is upset that Jordy, Kumrow, and Bulaga were let go, well, considering what they did after leaving GB, it seems those were the right moves. (Even though we hated to see a Packer-people guy like Jordy go.)  If Rodgers wants to have control over who stays and who goes, he can either buy a team or become an Elway.

And yes, the FO effed up not telling him they were drafting Love. But it's a courtesy, not a requirement.

@Herschel posted:

Manning's new contract kicked cap money down the road, he didn't take a pay cut.

That's not correct.  He converted his $19m guaranteed base salary into $15m guaranteed salary and $4m in unlikely to be earned incentives ($2m for winning the AFCC and $2m for winning the Super Bowl).  He went on to win the Super Bowl and earn that money.  Because they were unlikely to be earned incentives, the cap hit was taken the following year. 

Manning takes $4m pay cut

Manning earns back $4m in incentives

But cutting his guaranteed base salary by $4m and making him win the Super bowl to get it back is not "kicking cap money down the road". 

@Henry posted:

Every one of these guys vacillate depending on the way the wind blows, which means their credibility exists day to day, and many times depends upon whether we agree with them on a given topic. Stephen A has been more consistent than most, but let's also keep in mind these videos come again in the wake of an interview where Rodgers played coy and elusive once more.

Cowherd in particular is probably one rung above Florio in that he finds the best avenue to sow discord inside Packer Nation, and changes his tune based on where he can do the most damage.

If Rodgers wants Gute and/or Murphy fired, be a fucking man and put it out there for the world to see. And if he's that petty that he allows these 2 guys inside his head like that, he's already lost. You can't waver between "killing them with indifference" and vaguely narrowing down the list of individuals that you feel have wronged you.

It's one thing to say up front what your issues or grievances consist of. It's another to play stupid head games and force people to decipher things while simultaneously hinting that the problem is fixable but not being clear about how to fix it. This notion that the FO should kiss his ass but do it the right way and I'm not gonna tell you the right way is plain horse shit. No one should ever appease such a demeaning prospect, and those that have felt such disrespect previously aren't any better if they demand such groveling in return.

Most of us agree that the FO has done damage. But at what point is the line drawn and we realize- ok, now it's 12 that's doing further damage? Does that point exist?

What further damage?  It's done. 

The whole "be a man" is boot strappy fantasy.  It only works that way for us peons.  That's reality.

How crazy would things get if AR does what Henry suggested as a possibility and shows up for the first game but the Packers don't play him.  Then imagine if JL plays lights out and the team wins with AR riding the pines.....

@Henry posted:

What further damage?  It's done.

The whole "be a man" is boot strappy fantasy.  It only works that way for us peons.  That's reality.

That may be so, but isn't it kinda sorta hypocritical to preach that the Green Bay Packers are about the people while at the same time exerting leverage in a clever, calculated evil genius type of manner? Granted, none of us know if he's been clear to them behind closed doors. But aren't you a bit hard pressed to believe such a thing with each ensuing public nothing burger interview or statement? If this is his way of exacting revenge, bravo Aaron. You've managed to stick it to your oppressors in the most public of ways, and drag everyone else into it, most significantly the PEOPLE who've supported you all these years. How exactly does AR look any better than the chumps up high at this point?

Just to clear this up, none of this entire conversation for me is about defending Aaron Rodgers as an individual, any pettiness or hypocrisy.  My repeated statements about Rodgers getting a phone call aren't about poor Aaron, it's about that's what you do in a situation with an asset like Aaron Rodgers.

This is a cold, hard cynical discussion of Aaron Rodgers the asset and the condemnation of the asset handlers.  That's it.

People keep talking about "this is a business".  Yes, it is and the thing that makes your business go decided to take a giant shit on your head because you don't know how to manage the business.

Again, just matter of factly clearing this up.  I don't want people to think I don't see this in anything but a cynical light stripped down to the most basic ABCs of business.  No sarcasm, 100% serious.  When I say things like this is a "people business" it doesn't mean the same thing Rodgers said in the interview, be it hypocritical or not.  People = assets.  Assets that fuel your business.  So the people running the show need to put their sociopath hat on and deal with all the bullshit to get the ultimate result.  There's no player attachment as I'm the first to tell you hero worship is for suckers.  Rodgers may worry about his reputation, I don't.  I don't care.

Rodgers is an asset with the most potential to help this team achieve the ultimate goal of the NFL business, a championship.  One of the major reasons people watch professional sports in this day and age.

I still watch the NFL because there is still solid entertainment value in the skill sets of these assets.  If I want to watch sports with the sense of camaraderie in the full spirit of sports I'll go to a St. Paul Saints game or women's college softball or pretty much anything not on the professional sports level.

It's a business.

@DocBenni posted:

How crazy would things get if AR does what Henry suggested as a possibility and shows up for the first game but the Packers don't play him.  Then imagine if JL plays lights out and the team wins with AR riding the pines.....

That would be the gamble.  I thought about this in a couple of different ways. 

1) Does Mayo play Rodgers?  Sounds insane that he wouldn't be benched but that's a real consideration.  My guess is if Rodgers was benched and he was then interviewed he would absolutely agree it was the right thing and not say another word.  The visual is horrible.  Doesn't matter who is right.

2) Rodgers is on the pine but actually helping coaching Jordan Love.  Completely insincere or maybe not.  I truly believe he's got nothing against Love.  Again, optics, fucking horrible.

3) Rodgers is on the pine.  Love plays lights out.  Game, set match. 

The reality is it's tough for any QB on his first start in the NFL, particularly a QB who the GM believes has a "long way to go" in his development. 

The odds are in Rodgers favor even after taking a PR hit for not showing up for TC/Pre-season.  I mean if we're talking about the supposed deep levels of pettiness I can't imagine Rodgers would give two rips about the fanbase, only that the rest of the NFL knows the Green Bay clown car fucked up.

Just of note, I think people don't realize the power of not saying anything.  Right now all the FO can do is put out rote statements of their commitment to Rodgers.  There isn't anything else to act on or spin, nothing.  This isn't Rodgers "killing them with indifference", he's just straight up killing them because the only thing that can legitimately be pondered is "how did it come to this?".  Even if the fanbase gets pissed off because he doesn't say anything it leaves this nebulous cloud that can be spun in multiple directions and change sentiment pretty fast.  Doesn't have to be true or even germane to the ultimate issue, it still gives Rodgers options and it still looks bad for the dunce silos. 

The Baltimore GM threw Gute under the bus about his comments knowing Gute liked Bateman and wanted him so that is why they took him. I bet Gute appreciated that fomr his friend in this avalanche of negativity with Rodgers.

The damage is already done for both Rodgers and the FO.   There are three scenarios I see playing out.

1) trade Rodgers and get the most you can back in return

2) pay him and extend him

2b) either 1) or 2) and a front office shake up - ie fire and replace Gute and Murphy and Ball or some combination

Option 2 is the best move in the short term, but I think it’s the least likely scenario.   I think Aaron is hurt/offended/disrespected beyond repair and the only way to remedy that is to move on and start a new era for him and the Packers.  

Mentally, I’m already turning the page and not exactly looking forward to the Jordan Love era but if indeed they move Rodgers perhaps things can work out well and Love is better than we all think.  I don’t know.

What I do know is it’s certain I have a lot less interest in the Packers and the NFL and it’s likely I’ll find other things to occupy my time.   Year after year it’s petty, selfish, dog eat dog bullshit that is killing professional football and between rule changes and the pursuit of money over fan interests honestly there’s better ways I can spend my money and spend my time.  

Here’s hoping for a deep playoff run for the Bucks and Badgers football in the fall (and hopefully Brewers playoffs) because if Rodgers goes there really isn’t much to look forward to for 2021.   To that extent I say thanks and FU to Murphy, Gute, Rodgers and the league for creating this means to an end business model that makes these scenarios possible and ultimately divides the fan base and makes the game less enjoyable.  Sure, you are all “getting yours” but don’t forget it’s the fans and our support that drives that financial machine.  Perhaps at some point the gravy train ends and it all comes crashing down but I’m simply tired of this whole thing on both sides.  Either bury the hatchet or force a decision but enough is enough.  

June 1 can’t get here soon enough

@Herschel posted:

Rodgers wins a lot more games and moves a lot more revenue than some shitty cookie pushers.

You know you want some . . .

@CUPackFan posted:

That's not correct.  He converted his $19m guaranteed base salary into $15m guaranteed salary and $4m in unlikely to be earned incentives ($2m for winning the AFCC and $2m for winning the Super Bowl).  He went on to win the Super Bowl and earn that money.  Because they were unlikely to be earned incentives, the cap hit was taken the following year.

Manning takes $4m pay cut

Manning earns back $4m in incentives

But cutting his guaranteed base salary by $4m and making him win the Super bowl to get it back is not "kicking cap money down the road".

Yet neither mentions the phantom year on the end of the contract.

Let's also not forget the Broncos had a Super Bowl-ready defense and Brock Osweiller started seven games where they went 5-2 as Manning's arm was shot. Rodgers isn't in the same condition as Manning was. 

There was no phantom year.  The Broncos signed him to a 5 year deal.  His year 4 salary was $19m, guaranteed on the first day of the league year.  Elway asked him to reduce that salary to $15m, moving the $4m to "unlikely to be earned incentives" (winning the AFCC and Super Bowl).  Unlikely to be earned incentives don't hit the cap in the current year; they hit the cap the next year, if earned, even if the player is not on the team.  So yes, the $4m cap hit was moved from the fourth year to that fifth year, after Manning retired.  But it was not simply shifting the cap hit; the Broncos literally told Peyton "we're paying you $4m less, unless you win the Super Bowl". 

Peyton was asked to take a pay cut, but could earn that money back by winning a Super Bowl.  That is not simply shifting the cap hit. 

@artis posted:

That may be so, but isn't it kinda sorta hypocritical to preach that the Green Bay Packers are about the people while at the same time exerting leverage in a clever, calculated evil genius type of manner? Granted, none of us know if he's been clear to them behind closed doors. But aren't you a bit hard pressed to believe such a thing with each ensuing public nothing burger interview or statement? If this is his way of exacting revenge, bravo Aaron. You've managed to stick it to your oppressors in the most public of ways, and drag everyone else into it, most significantly the PEOPLE who've supported you all these years. How exactly does AR look any better than the chumps up high at this point?

I had to come back to this after a bout of insomnia posting.  Every player that has made any kind of statement about Rodgers has flat out said they are either on his side or understand the tact Rodgers is using/understanding feeling disrespected.

Rodgers interviews or lack of interviews mean nothing.  I also have zero doubt that Rodgers and/or his representatives have made their complaints crystal clear because it would be absurd to think otherwise.

Maybe I'm not understanding what you're conveying but Rodgers simply being upset and blowing this up while not telling the FO what the issues are has a likelihood of zero.  If Murphy, Gunt and Mayo (?) flew out to talk with Rodgers I doubt they didn't discuss the issues and I doubt it wasn't with a few more people in tow on both sides.

At this point I think GB would do well to move on from all parties involved in this debacle. Whoever is to blame, which is seemingly everyone involved (by that I mean Rodgers, Dunn, Gute, probably Murphy), it's clear that a lack of professionalism has created a completely unnecessary situation. Maybe a phone call would have solved it, maybe Rodgers should have done a better job securing his future when he signed his fucking contract 2 years ago. If this drama drags through training camp then GB BOD needs to instruct Murphy to remove the GM, remove the QB, and then realign his role in football matters. I still go back to the idea someone here had which was to bring in an experienced NFL personnel guy like John Dorsey or Reggie McKenzie and have them oversee all of football ops, either temporarily or long term, and hire a new GM to solve this. You can't allow players to power play your organization and you can't have a GM that can't handle superstar players...that's a recipe for more and more drama. Rodgers continuing to stoke the fire with cryptic sound bites just intensifies my loathing for that type of personality...stop being a douche and just what you mean.

Julio Jones just said "I'm out of there...", at least Falcons fans and the organization know what is going on. The narrative there is pretty solid for both sides despite him being arguably the greatest player in ATL history. Are people freaking out that ATL not only DIDN'T get Julio help in the form of a QB with a live arm, they actually drafted his replacement? Doesn't seem like it. 

Apparently, 12 feels the "Packer People" mantra is out the door under WMM and Gunt.

@Grave Digger posted:

At this point I think GB would do well to move on from all parties involved in this debacle. Whoever is to blame, which is seemingly everyone involved (by that I mean Rodgers, Dunn, Gute, probably Murphy), it's clear that a lack of professionalism has created a completely unnecessary situation. Maybe a phone call would have solved it, maybe Rodgers should have done a better job securing his future when he signed his fucking contract 2 years ago. If this drama drags through training camp then GB BOD needs to instruct Murphy to remove the GM, remove the QB, and then realign his role in football matters. I still go back to the idea someone here had which was to bring in an experienced NFL personnel guy like John Dorsey or Reggie McKenzie and have them oversee all of football ops, either temporarily or long term, and hire a new GM to solve this. You can't allow players to power play your organization and you can't have a GM that can't handle superstar players...that's a recipe for more and more drama. Rodgers continuing to stoke the fire with cryptic sound bites just intensifies my loathing for that type of personality...stop being a douche and just what you mean.

Julio Jones just said "I'm out of there...", at least Falcons fans and the organization know what is going on. The narrative there is pretty solid for both sides despite him being arguably the greatest player in ATL history. Are people freaking out that ATL not only DIDN'T get Julio help in the form of a QB with a live arm, they actually drafted his replacement? Doesn't seem like it.

Dorsey got outfoxed not once but twice and McKenzie might be fine, but he also let the bowl hair cut owner and Gruden outflank him. Not his fault, but what GM would they bring in that would work? Schneider? He’s the personnel guy like Gute, really. If like you say, have VP of football ops and Gute and Hendrickson beneath...blowing everything up I don’t think does the team any good.

Those guys also built good, deep rosters that have or are now competing. In hindsight Dorsey's only mistake in CLE was trusting Kitchens to be his HC because Stefanski has basically taken the same roster and is winning. There's a paradigm shift in the NFL with some teams giving more and more power to HC, personnel guys are getting boxed out all over the place. Schneider is in the same boat as Dorsey and McKenzie, I think Carroll has final say in SEA. I think you bring in an experienced voice to reestablish culture and weather this storm.

People liked to assume a lot about Ted because he was kind of dry, and seemed robotic.

I have it from multiple people who knew Ted, he was BELOVED by players and staff alike because he was a huge people person. He was the kind of guy who'd just pick up the phone in the off-season and call a player to check-in, ask about the family, not even talk about football.

That may seem like a small thing, but that's leadership.

I don't care how great of roster-builder you are, if you can't manage that small thing, then you're not fit to be an NFL GM.

Ted was the one that carried on the Bob Harlan "people first" culture...obviously, that chapter was missing from Murphy's management textbook.

I think an important difference though is that Ted and Rodgers, in particular, were bonded together through their drama with Favre. Ted had to gut the roster  and rebuild it and by 2009 there were probably only a couple Sherman guys on the roster (Barnett, Driver, Clifton, Tausch, maybe others). Gute has faced a very different situation because when you look at the 2020 starters, Gute probably only drafted or signed maybe half of them(?). Rodgers has seemingly no personal bond or connection with Gute, its entirely professional. Gute was just an area scout (SEC scout at that), so they likely had to build this relationship from scratch and Rodgers is supposedly very guarded with people outside his close friends. I doubt Rodgers was thrilled when Ted used a top 50 pick on Brian Brohm, but I'm sure they figured it out because they had that relationship. I think Gute probably overestimated his relationship with Rodgers, tactical mistake. 

Again, I think Ted gets a raw deal in terms of his perceptions given how he handled press conferences and the like.  And at the end, or near the end, he clearly wasn’t in good health.

I don’t know much about Gute.   Seems like a personable guy.   I’ve not heard the same things about Ball or Murphy.

@Chongo posted:

People liked to assume a lot about Ted because he was kind of dry, and seemed robotic.

I have it from multiple people who knew Ted, he was BELOVED by players and staff alike because he was a huge people person. He was the kind of guy who'd just pick up the phone in the off-season and call a player to check-in, ask about the family, not even talk about football.

That may seem like a small thing, but that's leadership.

I don't care how great of roster-builder you are, if you can't manage that small thing, then you're not fit to be an NFL GM.

Ted was the one that carried on the Bob Harlan "people first" culture...obviously, that chapter was missing from Murphy's management textbook.

TT had the advantage that he managed to carve out a 10-year NFL career with the same team while starting only 8 total games. I wonder how many other guys out there that played that long without ever starting more than 3 games in a season? It can't be that many.

He was always in danger of being cut or waived and was always making the vet minimum.  It gave him the perspective to relate to the low-round draft picks and UDFAs that he seemed especially good at finding. Those guys (UDFAs or street free agents) were more likely to sign with Green Bay because they knew TT was once one of them. He was also very loyal to how own draft picks and signees, especially the lunch-pail type guys.

It was his biggest strength but also his biggest weakness. For every Sam Shield, Tramon Williams, or John Kuhn there were guys he held onto way too long. AJ Hawk was a high draft pick but he stayed on for about 3 years too long. Donald Driver was a waste of a roster spot for his last 2 years.

That story about Jordy Nelson and Gutekunst's conversation when they decided to move on Jordy was interesting. Do Cobb and Nelson come back for a few more years if TT was still really running things? You could argue that it would have held back developing the next round of WRs, but Rodgers' loyalty to guys like Nelson and Cobb is not a bad thing and the way those two were treated (which may have made sense from a purely financial/football standpoint) was different than how TT would have treated them.

@Henry posted:

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I still watch the NFL because there is still solid entertainment value in the skill sets of these assets.  If I want to watch sports with the sense of camaraderie in the full spirit of sports I'll go to a St. Paul Saints game or women's college softball or pretty much anything not on the professional sports level.

It's a business.

Oh, I think you can find solid entertainment in the skill sets of the college softball athlete. Catch the Women's College Softball Super Regionals starting Friday. It's a lot more than just camaraderie.

pic.twitter.com/2VSwR4vm06

— Tom Brady (@TomBrady) May 26, 2021

@Fandame posted:

It's a lot more than just camaraderie.

Well yeah, a lot of lesbians in softball.

@Grave Digger posted:

At this point I think GB would do well to move on from all parties involved in this debacle. Whoever is to blame, which is seemingly everyone involved (by that I mean Rodgers, Dunn, Gute, probably Murphy), it's clear that a lack of professionalism has created a completely unnecessary situation.

Probably Murphy?  Murphy is the first person that should go.  He created the 3 silo approach and said he would be responsible for keeping clear lines of communication.  It’s his responsibility not Gunts.  Ball should be the next one out the door as his over-valuing his self-importance is nauseating.

to me Gunt is doing his job and doing it damn well. He’s bringing in good players and building a long-term base.  On the Love drafting piece and not calling Rodgers - it appears to me that they did not go into the draft planning that, but when he fell, Gunt reacted.  (Is that any different than Rodgers falling to 24).  Murphy should have been the one on the phone calling Rodgers as Gunt was managing the draft.  

Tom Brady has some jokes..considering how awful he played in the NFCC..but this *totally* changes everything for me..fire Murphy, Ball, Gute, MLF, Hackett..

@CUPackFan posted:

There was no phantom year.  The Broncos signed him to a 5 year deal.  His year 4 salary was $19m, guaranteed on the first day of the league year.  Elway asked him to reduce that salary to $15m, moving the $4m to "unlikely to be earned incentives" (winning the AFCC and Super Bowl).  Unlikely to be earned incentives don't hit the cap in the current year; they hit the cap the next year, if earned, even if the player is not on the team.  So yes, the $4m cap hit was moved from the fourth year to that fifth year, after Manning retired.  But it was not simply shifting the cap hit; the Broncos literally told Peyton "we're paying you $4m less, unless you win the Super Bowl".

Peyton was asked to take a pay cut, but could earn that money back by winning a Super Bowl.  That is not simply shifting the cap hit.

So Manning put up some good numbers in 2016? And yeah, that team was loaded. Thomas, Sanders and Caldwell at receiver with high pick Latimer, very solid backs in Anderson and Hillman and a good offensive line was the weaker unit.

Wolfe and Malik Jackson at De with Antonio Smith as a backup, Von Miller and Demarcus Ware at OLB with Shaq Barrett and Shane Ray as backups, Brandon Marshall and Danny Trevaithan at ILB,  Talib, Harris, Roby and Webster at CB and TJ Ward at safety. That was not a middling team that was lucky to make the playoffs.

Welp. At least we have one sports event we know Rodgers will show up at.

.@TomBrady keeps roasting "jeopardy host" Aaron Rodgers 🤣 @brgridiron #CapitalOnesTheMatch pic.twitter.com/mUftO9AR9X

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) May 26, 2021

@Chongo posted:

People liked to assume a lot about Ted because he was kind of dry, and seemed robotic.

I have it from multiple people who knew Ted, he was BELOVED by players and staff alike because he was a huge people person. He was the kind of guy who'd just pick up the phone in the off-season and call a player to check-in, ask about the family, not even talk about football.

That may seem like a small thing, but that's leadership.

I don't care how great of roster-builder you are, if you can't manage that small thing, then you're not fit to be an NFL GM.

Ted was the one that carried on the Bob Harlan "people first" culture...obviously, that chapter was missing from Murphy's management textbook.

I remember reading the story about how it was incredibly hard for him to cut guys with it often harkening back to his playing days.  I think it was after the Bert thing that he still had pictures on the wall of just "great football players" or something to that extent.

I think that's what Brandt is talking about when it came to certain aspects of his communication skills.  The media shit, obviously never his strong point.  Players, all day everyday because he was those guys.

Seems like that's something Murphy has forgotten or thinks it's beneath him.

Those stupid white defensive tackles cost Aaron another Super Bowl title:

Montgomery said it was a slow start for Dean Lowry in 2020, but he was very high on how he ended, particularly NFC title game: "Him and Kenny inside dominated that line of scrimmage. I know the outcome wasn't what we wanted, but he was trending in the right direction."

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 26, 2021

@Fandame posted:

Oh, I think you can find solid entertainment in the skill sets of the college softball athlete. Catch the Women's College Softball Super Regionals starting Friday. It's a lot more than just camaraderie.

Why do people think I'm joking when I say I like watching college women's softball?  I'm dead serious.  I enjoy watching college women's softball for fuck sakes!

Granted I have fond albeit short memories with previous members of the U of M softball squad but that's neither here nor there.  I dig it.  It's entertaining god damn it!

@Goalline posted:

Those stupid white defensive tackles cost Aaron another Super Bowl title:

Montgomery said it was a slow start for Dean Lowry in 2020, but he was very high on how he ended, particularly NFC title game: "Him and Kenny inside dominated that line of scrimmage. I know the outcome wasn't what we wanted, but he was trending in the right direction."

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 26, 2021

I think Montgomery had VR goggles on.

I think you had VD goggles.

There you go!  Questioning my judgement . . . which is totally valid on the VD front.

NO, YOU'RE A WHORE!

@Grave Digger posted:

Julio Jones just said "I'm out of there...", at least Falcons fans and the organization know what is going on. The narrative there is pretty solid for both sides despite him being arguably the greatest player in ATL history. Are people freaking out that ATL not only DIDN'T get Julio help in the form of a QB with a live arm, they actually drafted his replacement? Doesn't seem like it.

As great as Julio Jones is he's still a WR not a QB, the most important position in pro sports.

Also, didn't the whole "I'm outta here" happen on a hot mic or something?  It's not like he walked up to a podium with the press there and said "I'm outta here" and dropped the mic.

Apples to Sasquatch.

@Henry posted:

Why do people think I'm joking when I say I like watching college women's softball?  I'm dead serious.  I enjoy watching college women's softball for fuck sakes!

Granted I have fond albeit short memories with previous members of the U of M softball squad but that's neither here nor there.  I dig it.  It's entertaining god damn it!

Well, in your post-oh-so-long-ago, it came off as you just watched college softball and St. Paul Saints for only the camaraderie and spirit of the game and not the skill. I thought I'd reinforce that there's some top-notch skill in college softball, dad-gummit! (If you have a moment, go dig up the video of Jenny Finch striking out Pujols. Classic.)

Conclusion jumper.  You should've just known the talent part was inferred and that simply due to the amateur/college/semi-pro level they're playing with a lot more heart and love of the game rather than just the ego and paycheck.  I'm just saying it's the true essence of sport overall including the talent. 

Shame on you.  Bad!  Bad!

@Goalline posted:

Those stupid white defensive tackles cost Aaron another Super Bowl title:

Montgomery said it was a slow start for Dean Lowry in 2020, but he was very high on how he ended, particularly NFC title game: "Him and Kenny inside dominated that line of scrimmage. I know the outcome wasn't what we wanted, but he was trending in the right direction."

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) May 26, 2021

It's OK for me to hate Lowry because it's not a crime cuz I'm white(with a brown heart).