Rodgers Wants A New Contract?

@BrainDed posted:

That's like telling the spouse who was cheated on that they need to trust again to get over the infidelity.    Too fucking late.   Gute sucked another dick and Rodgers doesn't want to make out with him after that.

ewww
I really don't think AR feels cheated on because of Love, he's been super gracious to the kid after seeing how Favray treated him in a similar scenario.

I think Aaron wants full commitment ( however you define that) and he has questions about the front office's level of commitment given how little time he has left. The Packers have a 100 year horizon, Rodgers only has 2 - 3 and his last, best chance is in Titletown USA.

So sign a deal, open some cap space and let Gute get you 1 player you covet.
After that, Gute does his thing, Rodgers does his and Packer fans can celebrate moar Championships.

IT IS TIME... for Title # 14 and # 15...

speaking of 15....I wish he were still around and lucid - he would be the perfect peacemaker

I think I feel you Rodgers. Watching his garbo receivers fail to make basic reads and torpedo plays that are guaranteed wins pre-snap. Some of us aren't wired to handle that Brandon Bostick shit. Kumerow had probably demonstrated the basic ability to make a correct read, go to the right spot, and catch a ball when open.

He's wrong about the field goal though.

In NFL terms he's more than earned an extension and extra cash. He's not under any obligation to accept a lame duck year. #TeamRodgers

Rodgers wants 1 more Lombardi in the case than Favre. That's his justification for everything. He's done everything imaginable to try and make it happen.

He seriously wants another Lombardi as a Packer. He'd view a Lombardi with another team as failure.  

I guess the one thing I am waiting for is to hear from the Oracle himself.  Come out and say to Katie Couric or whoever "I am not putting on the Packers uniform again, even if I have to retire" or something. Tell us, his fans, directly what his beef is whatever it may be.  I respect that people have different views and opinions.   I guess that is why I am losing any respect I have left for the guy.

@Fandame posted:

So why was everyone so mad at Favre? Yes, Bert threatened retirement, but there sat Rodgers on the bench ready to take over for three years. Now everyone is saying how Rodgers should have been consulted on this and that and let him have Kumerow, etc., but no one was saying the same about Bert.  So, Gute cheated and now Rodgers doesn't want to make out with him and everyone is blaming the front office. Huh. Weird how times change.

A timeline of Brett Favre's retirements.

Allegedly Julio Jones is available

So tell you what - you reach out to Rodgers and tell him fine - we will tear up your contract and give you 3 years of complete security and trade for Julio Jones on one condition - the money required to make it all work has to be reconciled in the contract Rodgers receives.  Which means he ain’t getting 40MMM++ guaranteed each year.

Not sure he would jump at it but if he wants a ring and protect his legacy that’s the best outcome for him.  He can’t have both - the security AND the money.  Tell him he wants to be like Brady, well, here’s your chance.  The Packers are close enough to compete and maybe getting Jones is the missing piece of the puzzle.

@GratefulPack posted:

I guess the one thing I am waiting for is to hear from the Oracle himself.  Come out and say to Katie Couric or whoever "I am not putting on the Packers uniform again, even if I have to retire" or something. Tell us, his fans, directly what his beef is whatever it may be.  I respect that people have different views and opinions.   I guess that is why I am losing any respect I have left for the guy.

Amen

@Tschmack posted:

Allegedly Julio Jones is available

So tell you what - you reach out to Rodgers and tell him fine - we will tear up your contract and give you 3 years of complete security and trade for Julio Jones on one condition - the money required to make it all work has to be reconciled in the contract Rodgers receives.  Which means he ain’t getting 40MMM++ guaranteed each year.

Not sure he would jump at it but if he wants a ring and protect his legacy that’s the best outcome for him.  He can’t have both - the security AND the money.  Tell him he wants to be like Brady, well, here’s your chance.  The Packers are close enough to compete and maybe getting Jones is the missing piece of the puzzle.

Hasn’t Jones been injured a lot or have a injury history?

If rodgers leaves green bay via trade or whatever, I don't see him reconciling with the team for a long time if ever.. He easily put his own family on block so I doubt it would bother him to put packer fans on ignore.

Doubt the team is hung up on cash. I’m sure they would pay him any amount of money he wants. It’s about guarantees and how many years guaranteed.

This is about one thing...12 wants to retire a Packer. This has never been about competing with Nub, nor butt hurt over Kumerow or any of the dozen other things mentioned.

My guess is, in spite of the "we went out to talk to him, we want him to be our QB," the real test is are they willing to commit to him long enough (3-4 years) so he can finish his career as a Packer? And they obviously don't want to do that.

The Packers want the ability to cut ties with 12 at any time after 2021...I don't blame him for being pissed about it when he's said on numerous occasions it would be special to him to play his whole career with one team. It is well known his love of the fans and the state.

Gutey wants him back now because he knows at this moment Nub isn't ready. Again, a miscalculation on Gunt's part. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.

At this point, it's up to Murphy to grow a pair and intervene. He has to play the role of owner since we don't have one.

@ChilliJon posted:

Rodgers wants 1 more Lombardi in the case than Favre. That's his justification for everything. He's done everything imaginable to try and make it happen.

He didn't deliver when it counted in Jan.

It's a team sport and this team is the one that gives him the best shot at another Lombardi.

What's really important in all this is we now know Aaron did punch cancer lady in the face.

Or he did do everything they wanted until the FO took him for granted and it was a bridge too far.

If that were the case Mayo would be the first one lining up to show him the door.  We'd know that Rodgers was a complete asshole to Love even though we've heard and watched the two work together in camp.

So, in a nutshell, that tweet is full of shit.

@BrainDed posted:

More like who's dick didn't I suck.

I feel left out.

@Henry posted:

What's really important in all this is we now know Aaron did punch cancer lady in the face.

I thought he kicked her in the ****.

@H5 posted:

He didn't deliver when it counted in Jan.

Well Rodgers may or may not have delivered in January (some fans somehow think he outplayed Brady in the NFCC), but one thing all SMART Packer fans can agree upon is that Kevin King sure delivered.

Good thing #20 was brought back despite all the interest he generated in free agency.

In Gutey we must continue to blindly trust ... and genuflect before.

He did but that wasn't covered for legal reasons.  Right after that he poisoned the village well while floating like a duck.

He’s never going to love you back.

I'm his piece on the side.

I’m out. See everyone in September for week 1. Gonna be a crazy summer.

@SteveLuke posted:

Well Rodgers may or may not have delivered in January (some fans somehow think he outplayed Brady in the NFCC), but one thing all SMART Packer fans can agree upon is that Kevin King sure deliverd.

Good thing #20 was brought despite all the interest he generated in free agency.

In Gutey we must continue to blindly trust ... and genuflect before.

We would have won if Gutey were the QB. Rodgers sucks.

@SteveLuke posted:

Well Rodgers may or may not have delivered in January (some fans somehow think he outplayed Brady in the NFCC), but one thing all SMART Packer fans can agree upon is that Kevin King sure delivered.

Good thing #20 was brought back despite all the interest he generated in free agency.

In Gutey we must continue to blindly trust ... and genuflect before.

hahahaha

Now Rodgers is insisting Bill Belichick be fired. 

@Goalline posted:

I thought he kicked her in the ****.

I didn't know "shin" was auto-censored around here.

I wish Fedya was.

Hateful™.

The picture of the 3 legends makes me sad

@GratefulPack posted:

I guess the one thing I am waiting for is to hear from the Oracle himself.  Come out and say to Katie Couric or whoever "I am not putting on the Packers uniform again, even if I have to retire" or something. Tell us, his fans, directly what his beef is whatever it may be.  I respect that people have different views and opinions.   I guess that is why I am losing any respect I have left for the guy.

If he were to do that, all the gamesmanship and plausible deniability goes out the window. I think it was FanDame who said he's now making up reasons to get out of town. Whether the leaks come from his camp or not, Dunn will try to make hay out of every new one that comes out. It's clear that Rodgers is more clever than the 3 stooges, but the longer this fails to be resolved, the worse this gets for both parties in the public's mind. It's a complete embarrassment for everyone at this point.

It still doesn't change the fact that 12 himself could dispel all the BS swirling around if he manned up and spoke for himself. That's the downside of passive aggressive. You drop bread crumbs and then after the fact expect everyone to know where TF your head was at the whole time. If he uses the same type of aloof communication with mgmt as he does when he's working the press, is any of it his doing that the thickheaded dunderheads in the conference room have no idea wtf he just said?

I’m tired of the BS. Maybe trade him to the Donks for Chubb and some high picks. He just had the best season he’ll ever have the rest of his career. He was great entertainment, but all things come to an end. Might be what’s best for the org at this point, besides letting Murphy go.

He could end up like a former Jets QB? https://sports.theonion.com/pa...-qb-who-s-1846644313

@SteveLuke posted:

Good thing #20 was brought back despite all the interest he generated in free agency.

In Gutey we must continue to blindly trust ... and genuflect before.

The issue goes back but the biggest issue in the NFC Championship was the utter lack of depth. They lacked a viable corner to start in place of a banged up King and a viable OL to somewhat cover Bahktiari's absence. They also lacked depth at receiver and safety and defensive line. That doesn't even mention the cavalcade of crap they've trotted out at ILB.  The team is paper-thin and the last six years of drafts haven't covered near enough holes.

Brady is probably the luckiest fuck ever to play the game. He throws three picks in the NFC Championship game but his defense is facing a team without a good enough tackle tandem, then gets a Super Bowl where his opponent is missing both starting OTs after years of having good defenses get him the ball back in good field position and a great coach.

@SteveLuke posted:

Well Rodgers may or may not have delivered in January (some fans somehow think he outplayed Brady in the NFCC), but one thing all SMART Packer fans can agree upon is that Kevin King sure delivered.

King doesn't give up the TD if Rodgers doesn't throw the INT.  Kings play is inexcusable but there's a lot of blame to go around in that game.

Then, with a trip to the SB on the line, the Packers couldn't even pick up a single first down after both of Jaire's second-half picks. That to me was when the team lost the game. The same thing that killed the team in Seattle- a failure to capitalize on turnovers.

@Herschel posted:

Brady is probably the luckiest fuck ever to play the game. He throws three picks in the NFC Championship game but his defense is facing a team without a good enough tackle tandem, then gets a Super Bowl where his opponent is missing both starting OTs after years of having good defenses get him the ball back in good field position and a great coach.

Brady didn't end up in Tampa by LUCK.

He chose the team with great defensive talent (#1 against the run in 2019) and bet he could turn the O around.

He chose a team that added to an already top notch D with an impressive 2nd rounder in Antoine Winfield, Jr. (who was injured for the NFCC but came away with an INT in the SB).

He chose a team that paid Nndamukong Suh about the same amount of money to play DT as the Packers paid Dean Lowry.

He chose a team with not just one but two off the ball linebackers who can run and make plays all over the field ... as compared to the Packers who wish the inside linebacking position would just go away.

In short, Brady may be lucky as H, but his decision to join a TB team that already had a very good D in place was not lucky but smart.

BTW, guess which team that plays right next to the Rocky Mountains ESPN just ranked as having the best defensive roster in the NFL?

2 things ; 1) TB had a talent advantage in significantly more positions than we did. I've asked this before; of the 22 starters in that game, how many of our players would start over theirs based on how they played in that game? My estimation is 6 (AR, Linsley, Adams, Clark, Alexander, one of our safeties) 2) Our o-line couldn't block their front people.... look at what they did to the vaunted KC offense. Mayo didn't do the offense any favors by not giving help to Turner & Wagner even after it was evident they were overmatched.

@vitaflo posted:

King doesn't give up the TD if Rodgers doesn't throw the INT.  Kings play is inexcusable but there's a lot of blame to go around in that game.

If only the Packers had enough talent on both sides of the ball to overcome, for example, 3 INTs.

Yeah but if and shoulda kinda maybe.

Yeah, well, if Aaron Jones doesn’t have a killer fumble and injury, and Davante doesn’t have an off game, who knows?  Certainly didn’t help not having Bak.

Talent wasn’t the issue in the game unless you are talking DB/CB.  Sullivan sucked and King wasn’t much better.  It says a lot when you don’t even bring in Josh Jackson despite King and Sullivan getting torched repeatedly.  But hey, at least we had Tramon waiting in the wings!  Oh wait.

Still, Packers had their chances and in the end it was Brady and the Bucs that delivered in crunch time.

As for them beating KC, sometimes it’s good to be in the right place at the right time.   Facing a KC offense with a banged up Mahomes and their two starting tackles out?   I’d say Tampa was both lucky and good.  

Yes, talent was the issue.  Tampa Bay has a Super Bowl trophy.  Sullivan or King shouldn't have been on the field.  Nobody at ILB or DT opposite KC.

Talent is always very much the issue.

So wouldn't it be great to have a well balanced team that can overcome mistakes, again, like 3 INTs.

Can anyone else tell me how many 3 INT games there's been in the playoffs and that team won?  I'm going to say those wins are low to non-existent.

Finish the fucking job and build a solid defense across the board.

Talent was very much the issue and always will be with these middling defenses.

Save the Tj Wut crap, Gunt has had 3 years and started off great.  Then he went full "we win the regular season/build for the future" shit.  I'm over it.  Win a Super Bowl, rebuild your team after.

You guys bitching about Rodgers taking up all the cap, there's your answer.  Go all in with your QB, rinse and repeat.  I'm sure every QB they draft after that will be just like Favre and Rodgers.