Ted. Boy you think you know someone....
ChilliJon posted:Packers just signed Dial. Ted done lost his mind.
No details on deal yet.
So now one has to wonder if this will seal Adams fate this season? He was hoping he wouldn't be IR'ed but Ted/Capers/MM may have thought Dial (this season anyway) can offer more up front and right away vs. a rookie who hasn't played any PS and missed most of camp.
Lots of really good rotation on the DL all of a sudden. If Adams turns into a player that's pan gravy now.
Daniels, Clark, Lowry, Dial, Jean Francois, Ringo, Adams.
Wizards tool box is overflowing now.
Former #49ers DL Quinton Dial has signed with the #Packers, source said. So, two free agent defenders in the last week.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 5, 2017
I'd be nervous if I were Pipkins. Same goes for McCray or Patrick.
Packdog posted:Who's gone Pipkins ??
Or Mays would be my guess. Dial brings a lot of intensity and will fit in well with Mike Daniels.
Mays is a good guess. If Adams is indeed close to returning, I'd like to see him stick around. Just like OL, you can't have enough DL either.
PS: Who the hell kidnapped Ted? I have no idea who this GM in GB is these days.
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
The #Packers want Dial to play role similar to Letroy Guion. The 6-5, 318-pound Dial can play nose, end or 3-technique.
Dial and Clinton-Dix won two National Championships when they played together at Alabama. Another good addition to the D. Great fit with Daniels.
#Packers releasing DL Christian Ringo to make room on their 53 for Quinton Dial, per source. They can put him on PS if he clears waivers.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) September 5, 2017
Well. That's a pretty good update on the current health of Monty Adams.
The addition of Brooks, Dial, and Odom, combined with the upcoming return of Adams, suddenly gives us decent depth at DL and OLB.
I'm really liking the way the defensive roster is coming together. No more excuses for Dom. He has talent. Now they have to get it done.
I don't think it's a stretch to predict that the Packers will finish with a top-10 defense. Last time Rodgers played with a unit of that caliber, he hoisted the Lombardi.
I'll give credit where credit is due: Ted evolved this past off-season, taking better advantage of the free agent market. But he's doing it in a responsible manner; rather than throwing around ridiculous money, he's supplementing the roster with improved talent at a reasonable price. I like it.
And little "dead" money either... Check it out on the internet. We're not the Browns.
Lambeau Lobo posted:I'll give credit where credit is due: Ted evolved this past off-season, taking better advantage of the free agent market. But he's doing it in a responsible manner; rather than throwing around ridiculous money, he's supplementing the roster with improved talent at a reasonable price. I like it.
I think it's what he's always done. I think it's that just some years the talent for a reasonable price was not available. And, it always takes two to tango.
“[We] start looking into what it means, because what it means to take on a veteran player, it’s more than just the player,” Thompson said. “It’s how does the salary compare to other people on your team, and does this ruffle feathers, and all those other questions that maybe your average fan wouldn’t think to answer.”
Lots of new veteran pieces on D. A couple rookies looking at significant snaps.
Its not like Dom has a bulletproof history of defenses that never had communication issues. So this D might look a little confused at times early on. But they should be pretty solid after the bye week. Lots to like about what this defense might look like in December.
This year has been different. He's now added EIGHT players via free agency or the waiver wire: Brooks, Francois, House, Evans, Kendricks, Bennett, Dial and Odom.
He's never taken this approach. Reasonable veterans have always been there over the years, and Ted generally passes in favor of sticking with his roster.
He's evolved - let's give him credit for that.
Lambeau Lobo posted:Ted generally passes
Or do the players pass? And, if it was Ted, why? It's never just about the talent of the player and sticking with his roster. If that were the case, he wouldn't churn the bottom third to the extent he does.
Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
Swapping Christian Ringo for Quinton Dial epitomizes #Packers offseason. Ted eschewing total draft and develop for FAs who can improve team.
Of course it was Ted, and I don't know why. I can speculate. I always got the impression that Ted has taken pride in building a team organically by drafting (or signing UDFAs) and developing players. He identified "Packer People" -- i.e., the type of players that he wanted in his system in terms of both skill and character -- during his team's evaluation of college talent, and he enjoyed seeing them come up through the system. And when players did not develop on schedule, or players got too old, he replaced them with new, young talent. Ted views football as a young man's game, and as a result, he's always tried to infuse young talent into the roster. It's the reason he's generally preferred the unknown young stud over the proven veteran.
Want proof? Consider that Ted consistently fields one of the youngest teams in the NFL. From 2006 through ’09, his rosters were the league’s youngest on opening day. From ’10 through this year, they ranked no lower than sixth, including third in 2011, ‘15 and ’16.
He likely also appreciates the financial benefits to this approach. It's cheap to keep young players, and that offsets the weight of the large contracts for key veterans (e.g., Rodgers, Matthews, etc.).
Why is he changing his approach? Again, I can only speculate, but I suspect that TT did a bit of self-scouting. He knows he's got a generational talent in Rodgers. He recognizes that the McCarthy-Rodgers era should be producing more wins in the post-season. And he's likely looked at what the Patriots have accomplished and thought, "We should be having similar success." Belichick, like Thompson, does a fine job building his team through the draft. But he also supplements those efforts via free agency, trades, etc. I don't expect TT to take the same approach, pulling off mega trades and handing out more large contracts to free agents, and I'm not asking for that. But I suspect that TT has come to appreciate the benefits of adding a few more veterans to the roster. It can improve the overall talent, depth, and leadership in the locker room, which in turn can lead to more wins.
Again, this is all speculation, but that's my theory.
I still think its Elliott getting some leash here.
Agreed. It would not surprise me if Elliott has more of a voice these days. Clearly the Packers' executive team believes he's a valuable member of the front office; the guy seems to get promoted every year. I doubt they are forcing that on Thompson, but perhaps Ted is valuing Elliott's opinion more these days.
My guess is Ted died and Elliot is collecting his Social Security check.
And now I read that Tripp is signed by the falcons. Our ex backups must look good to some teams. We sign one of theirs and they sign one of ours.
I think it's important to remember Free Agency started 6 months ago. Ted didn't come out of the gate cutting checks.
He went through the draft. OTAs. Camp. Cuts. Waited to see who was available. Looked at his roster. Found improvements over what he had. Made some moves.
Yes. He jumped out a bit for Bennett and Kendricks. But it absolutely improved a position. Evans was a need move and he made it
In total. It's a better roster today than it was a month ago. Without spending stupid money.
Still a young team. Roster being churned. Always looking to make it better. GB has some intriguing talent on the practice squad.
If these guys stay reasonably healthy and under perform, DC should find it difficult keeping his job.
Hungry5 posted:“It’s how does the salary compare to other people on your team, and does this ruffle feathers, and all those other questions that maybe your average fan wouldn’t think to answer.”
Welcome to x4 Uncle Ted.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:If these guys stay reasonably healthy and under perform, DC should find it difficult keeping his job.
Or coaching as a whole might get more of the stink eye.
Let's be honest, these late FA's simply "fell into" Uncle Ted's lap" <sar>
The Packers cap situation and having the room after Camp when these guys became available- very shrewd strategy indeed
Further proof that the Packers are doing things differently this year when it comes to the roster is that for the first time in years the Packers are not one of the ten youngest teams in the NFL.
Bears have had one of the older rosters on average the past 5 years. So have the Saints. So have the Eagles. One playoff win between three teams in four years that should be good because they're not bogged down with all that youth and inexperience. And that lone win was four years ago. How does all that veteran leadership and experience only result in one win between three teams?!?!?!?
The "roster is too young" argument is about as pointless an argument in relation to winning and losing there is.
Great moves by the Silver Fox. No question the delay in cutting rosters from 90 helped, too.
My biggest concern right now on D is at CB, as I am assuming we are going to be seeing a lot of Nitro which should help remedy some of our ILB coverage deficiencies. The top three corners (House, Q and Randall) all have injury histories which could leave the squad pretty thin there if any of these players go down.
But with all these reinforcements on the DL and OLB we are looking at both rotation and insurance. This team is going to be even tougher to run against now and Dom now has enough pieces to do some interesting things, blitz-wise.
Can't wait!
antooo posted:My guess is Ted died and Elliot is collecting his Social Security check.
The very best part about the Dial signing (and no. It's not because he's 2 years older than Ringo which means he must be better and it raised the average age of the team) is this.
Remember the stat that Mike Daniels played less than 50% of 3rd down snaps last year? Dial changes that. Dial is a huge run clog that can play just about every position on the DL. Dial should free up Daniels to play more 3rd downs on obvious passing downs. Being that Daniels is the best pass rushing DL in GB, this is a very good thing.
Getting older isn't better. Getting better is better.
I just saw the first D series vs. DEN where Daniels runs the OL over and through the RB to get in Simien's face. That play was just silly. I would have assumed that OL caught Simien with his wife the play before.
Now I would like to see more OLine help brought in, but maybe not as much out there at Tackle.
SteveLuke posted:Further proof that the Packers are doing things differently this year when it comes to the roster is that for the first time in years the Packers are not one of the ten youngest teams in the NFL.
Looking at that list, there aren't many playoff contenders with a younger roster than the Packers.
Barring injury, I'd guess our roster is set at this point. Until next week.... 
I'm satisfied with how it came out. I/we always hope some particular player makes it and either love/hate it when they do/don't, but there weren't any moves that should cause great angst. It's a downright shame that we have to lose guys like Hill, Price, or even Ringo, but we are reminded that football can be a cruel business every year at this time.