Punters. If I have Aaron Rodgers I'm going to draft guys to make sure the punter never sees the damn field.
RELAX...we have plenty of late round picks where I am fine with a punter. This just in...late round picks are always a crap shoot and they won't all make the roster.
5th round isn't late round. Remember the Sitton's and Linsley's? Hope they find a Tauscher and Opie Cheesehead can punt, kick off and nail 60 yard FGs.
Henry posted:Opie lookin' mother****er.
That made me laugh out loud right there...
And that’s a great point if GB isn’t severely thin at OL with plenty of decent options at OL on the board.
Cant take a punter there. Needed as many OL bodies as possible to try and restock a pretty bare cupboard. Some decent edge guys on the board as well.
GB simply doesn’t have the roster to justify a punter. Especially in round 5
Opie went on to have a long and impressive career.
Folks:
The punter's second most important job on the GBP is to hold for Mason's Crosby's FGs. That operation (LS and holder) wasn't good enough last year. This kid might have shown our scouts the moxie needed to be automatic in that role.
Every ****ing point counts big time in the N-F-L.
Mason's money when the other parts of the machine are even remotely close to being in synch.
Just ask Jerrah Jones.
Seriously, that is my only hang up. Not only has the rush backer not been addressed but you still need Oline depth. Yeah, BPA, great numbers. Place kicker, great! Punter? Why?
Ray Guy
Bears have loaded up on D front seven prospects: a pair of OLB, a DE and a DT. After losing Rodgers last year, you would think BG would be doing everything possible to make sure Aaron doesn't get hurt and miss half the season again.
Would have preferred a TE. Looks like the Packers draft board is empty and they are onto undrafted free agents list.
If he can consistently pin opponents inside the 20, lowers the odds they will score. Punter can be a weapon, we just haven’t had good punting here in 20 years so we don’t remember what that impact is like. I doubt Oakland had any regrets about picking Shane Lechler that high at the expense of other positional depth.
lambeausouth posted:Bears have loaded up on D front seven prospects: a pair of OLB, a DE and a DT. After losing Rodgers last year, you would think BG would be doing everything possible to make sure Aaron doesn't get hurt and miss half the season again.
It wasn’t the OL’s fault he got hurt though and Rodgers has been charged with more sacks than his OL I would be willing to bet. Our starting 5 is very good, our depth at G is okay, our depth at Tackle is mediocre. Is anyone deep at Tackle though, quality pass blockers are not ways to find. You get competent players to fill in as needed and give them help or sign/trade for a starter if it’s long term.
I'll remember those stats for a PUNTER when Rodgers is picking grass out of his teeth.
**** it. GO OPIE CHEEZE WHIZ!! MAKE US PROUD!!!
The 1 redeeming factor in all of this....The Packers started the "run" on Punters.
So there's that....
Grave Digger posted:Is anyone deep at Tackle though,
I'd sure like to remedy that. Hopefully Gonklygoog nabs another bandaid.
CAPackFan95 posted:We had a good punter. Thompson chose to let him walk.
This. This. And once again. This.
CAPackFan95 posted:We had a good punter. Thompson chose to let him walk.
True.
I'm now Opie Cheez Whiz's biggest fan.
"Oh come on! Why isn't Opie Cheez Whiz seeing more time on the field! ****ing McCarthy!"
I must have missed. Who was the can't miss, future HOF lineman still on the board at 172?
Hey Dad, I can't see real good. Is that Walt Jones over there?
So you'd take a flyer on a punter before an OLineman? The successful players you can't count on one hand?
Grave Digger posted:lambeausouth posted:Bears have loaded up on D front seven prospects: a pair of OLB, a DE and a DT. After losing Rodgers last year, you would think BG would be doing everything possible to make sure Aaron doesn't get hurt and miss half the season again.
It wasn’t the OL’s fault he got hurt though and Rodgers has been charged with more sacks than his OL I would be willing to bet. Our starting 5 is very good, our depth at G is okay, our depth at Tackle is mediocre. Is anyone deep at Tackle though, quality pass blockers are not ways to find. You get competent players to fill in as needed and give them help or sign/trade for a starter if it’s long term.
I know Rodgers got hurt out of the pocket, but going forward, I'd want to do everything possible to make sure he didn't get hurt. Is Cole Madison strong enough to stay at right tackle in the NFL? Or is he more likely to transition to guard? If he's a guard, and Bulaga goes down again (likely), who's protecting Rodgers at right tackle?
We can't count on Bryan Bulaga playing 16 games in '18. I'd say there's a 15% chance that happens. When you have a Ferrari at quarterback, you insure the F out of it. We added Jimmy Graham, a red zone weapon, but he's not much of a blocker. I would like to see the Packers add a blocking tight end. We don't have a real blocking tight end, either.
Looks like I'm the only one who likes the pick. He's got a cannon leg and is an instant starter. Any OL drafted in this spot isn't starting any time soon and would be a project anyway. Their chance at an impact OL this year was a couple rounds ago and they didn't take one.
BJ Sander, cannon leg, instant starter.
Oh, and turf management Ph.D or something.
Henry posted:So you'd take a flyer on a punter before an OLineman? The successful players you can't count on one hand?
I would draft BPA. Forgoing that for need is how you end up with John Michels and Justin Harrell. If JK Scott was higher than Jamil Demby and Sam Jones, then so be it.
**Spoken as somebody who has no idea what Gute's draft board even looks like.
vitaflo posted:Looks like I'm the only one who likes the pick. He's got a cannon leg and is an instant starter. Any OL drafted in this spot isn't starting any time soon and would be a project anyway. Their chance at an impact OL this year was a couple rounds ago and they didn't take one.
I won't go as far as saying I like the pick... but I understand it. A good punter can flip the field and/or pin a powerful offense deep in their own zone.
This kid has a big leg and if he can produce, he'll impact Packer games in a good way for the next decade.
Brak posted:I don't think our OL is all that bad.
One Buluga injury from looking pretty shaky. Hopefully Madison can be successful if called on and maybe Murphy is better than last year but I sure the hell don't want to revisit the Don Barclay days when you already have Spriggs sucking up a spot.
I'd rather be a little shaky on the punter position than the oline.
Draft a starter vs a backup. I’d rather have an instant starter over a definite backup. David Bakhtiari and Josh Sitton weren’t sitting at this draft slot, I like Scott’s potential over everyone else’s. Sounds like Gute does too.
A bad punter can cause as many problems as a bad backup RT.
Am I ecstatic over the pick? No. I audibly guffawed when the tracker updated. However, I cannot and will not speculate on the opportunity cost of this pick until actual pads go on. The facts, however, are this:
- He was not taken in Rounds 1-3
- The Packers did not trade up to get him
- He was not selected at the expense of an obvious can't miss player (unless you put Deon Cain in that category, but they already took a WR)
For these reasons, I with withhold any outrage and panic until meaningful football happens. Meantime, I'll pull up a spot on the couch and watch.
And I'll leave it at this. I hope he makes everyone forget about Ray Guy but I personally am still a bit shell shocked from last year. I don't think you can ever have too many oline guys competing.
Henry posted:BJ Sander, cannon leg, instant starter.
Oh, and turf management Ph.D or something.
Sander started in college for only 1 year. Scott started for 4 and had better numbers across all of them. If you're going to rip the pick, try a little harder.
Rusty posted:Am I ecstatic over the pick? No. I audibly guffawed when the tracker updated. However, I cannot and will not speculate on the opportunity cost of this pick until actual pads go on. The facts, however, are this:
- He was not taken in Rounds 1-3
- The Packers did not trade up to get him
- He was not selected at the expense of an obvious can't miss player (unless you put Deon Cain in that category, but they already took a WR)
For these reasons, I with withhold any outrage and panic until meaningful football happens. Meantime, I'll pull up a spot on the couch and watch.
Well I'm laid up in pain for the last three days. I'm gonna bitch like a 3 year old and have Pakrz make me a sandwich.
Opie Whizburger moniker is branded and trademarked.
The Packers still have a couple more picks. Plus there’s the UDFAs they’ll sign. And then there’s the second FA period in June when teams make more cuts. A couple of moves and a weakness can become a strength, or at least not as weak. Look at what a couple picks seems to have done foe the DBs.
"I don't think you can ever have too many oline guys competing."
I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that.
An Opie Whizburger sounds delicious. Are they gluten free?
Well that's that then.
Overall, I give Herschel's day one rant a slight edge.
That won't do. I think I get points for the avatar.