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There is nothing in that line of reasoning that says it means you get rid of Moore.  We don't know if he's been developing or not, if he's still showing potential or progress, etc.  He hasn't seen the field as much as the letters have which may be an indicator but that's a tight threesome of competition and he may just need a break to show his ability.

That's 7 (or 8) WR's if you keep them all. I know there have been times in the past when we have had 7 but has there ever been 8 WR's on the 53 man roster? 

He's not seeing much activity and has been a healthy scratch a number of times. I say let him cruise the practice squad. I don't think there's a big chance that someone signs him to their active roster. 

They should just say screw the kickoff return and just take a knee every chance they get.  There's a theory out there that teams do more to hurt themselves by returning kickoffs than by just taking a knee, now that you get the ball at the 25.  No risk, you get the ball at the 25 yard line with a HOF QB vs. returning it and risking penalties and turnovers with no guarantee you'll get it past the 25 yards line.  And Packers are averaging 19.9 yard per return.  I don't know where the average start is but that 19.9 average would lead me to believe it's not the 25 yard line.  

And back on topic........really like MVS.  He looks very smooth out there, like a young Jordy Nelson.  He seems to have that deceptive speed, like watching a deer run.  

BrainDed posted:

Trade Monty...

 

I mean, like, his trade value has to be sky high right now. Fringe roster guy, frequently injured, Sickle Cell Trait, Insubordinate, etc...blue chip return on that trade. 

 MVS looks like he has a high ceiling. EQ looks like he could be something. Add those two to Devonte next year and looks promising. Cobb???? Geronimo who is no slouch, Moore, and the Whitewater kid are extras. 

Imagine if we were able to mix a TE into our Offense. 

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Packdog posted:
BrainDed posted:

Trade Monty...

 

I mean, like, his trade value has to be sky high right now. Fringe roster guy, frequently injured, Sickle Cell Trait, Insubordinate, etc...blue chip return on that trade. 

Pack is loaded at WR. MVS looks like he has a high ceiling. EQ looks like he could be something. Add those two to Devonte next year and look out. Cobb???? Geronimo who is no slouch, Moore, and the Whitewater kid are extras. Nice problem to have. 

Imagine if we were able to mix a TE into our Offense. That would be lethal. 

I don't care if it's for a practice squad guy you had your eye on.   He cannot be on the team next Sunday.   His teammates are talking shit about him to the media, he is talking shit about his teammates and he pissed in the face of the coaches. 

MVS has had some moments.  For a 1st year WR in this offense, he's ahead of schedule but not a moment too soon for it.  We know he has long speed, it looks like he's a decent although developing route runner, and he's shown the ability to make the contested catch.  This is also a kid who took it upon himself to memorize the entire playbook and reproduce it by hand, from memory before TC started. 

But there is reason to temper the enthusiasm.  He is still green and as defenses have more tape and better prepare for him, he is going to have to develop his counter moves as well as progress with what he can already do, to win.  #3 and #4 WR's area a dime a dozen in the nfl.  Watch other games and you'll see at least 1 no-name WR per team make a few catches, even score TD's.  

This offense needs him to keep growing.

Valdes-Scantling’s 40-yard touchdown was his second catch of at least 40 yards this season, following his 47-yard reception that set up the Packers’ lone touchdown in their Week 1 win at Chicago. It was the sixth time in 18 career games he’s had a catch of at least 40 yards. That doesn’t include his 38-yard catch against the Buffalo Bills last September.

It’s an impressive ratio, walking away from exactly one-third of his career games with a 40-yard reception. Considering how opposing defenses play the Packers, constantly rolling coverages in an attempt to remove top receiver Davante Adams, it’s also an important trend MVS has carried into his second season.

If the Packers are going to develop a secondary weapon in their pass game, someone to complement the All-Pro production they get from Adams, MVS appears to be their best hope.

β€œHe’s legit 4.3 speed,” Rodgers said. β€œThat is what it is. Now he’s playing to his timed speed. He’s playing a little more free.”

Still, that legit 4.3 speed is more potential than polish. So far, Valdes-Scantling has mostly shown his talent in flashes. The ability to run away from a cornerback here. His catch radius while high pointing a pass there. He has both 6-4 height and raw, straight-line speed, a tantalizing combination, but only provides glimpses of what he might give the Packers offense if ever he becomes a finished product.

MVS developing into downfield threat

My brother laughs at me, because I say this a lot, but I'm not fond of WRs who don't catch with their hands and choose to catch against their body. Some adjust away from that as their career matures, others don't. MVS seems to lean more toward body-catching at the moment. I like the rest of his game, just not that aspect. Jordy was the antithesis.