michiganjoe posted:Packers gave Brian Gutekunst a new deal, just as they did with Eliot Wolf, per source. 49ers GM search wide open.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 20, 2017
Just saw this.
Packers being Packers and Ted being Ted.
He trolls EVERYBODY.
Some speculation out there that the issue with the SF job could be roster control.
some speculation out there that the issue with the SF job could be Jed York. 
Not that I want SF to right the ship, but when does York figure out he and his sidekick are the problem?
Thank you Packer gods for giving the GBP organization the structure and mission that something like the SF snowjob doesn't happen in TitleTown
Vacancy sign just went up in Indy.
Rumors are the Colts trying to get Peyton Manning to take the reins.
So easy that even a Manning could do it?
michiganjoe posted:Some speculation out there that the issue with the SF job could be control.
There, fixed that for you. Removed the word "roster".
gbIdaho posted:Thank you Packer gods for giving the GBP organization the structure and mission that something like the SF snow job doesn't happen in TitleTown
You mean it is snowing is SF, but not in GB??? I think I have all the information I need to write a book called "Climate Change in the NFL".
Now the Colts have requested to talk to Wolf
No problem, just give Wolf more money ......... oh, wait .........
Peyton Manning?
He'll just get a big head
Dr.-Ka-Bong posted:Peyton Manning?
He'll just get a big head
Last time I saw a head that big it was on Easter Island.
YooperPackfan posted:Now the Colts have requested to talk to Wolf
They've requested a meeting with just about every prospective candidate in the NFL it seems. To me if the Packers candidates are kicking the tires on other positions then they don't expect Ted Thompson to leave.
The Packers don't have a hot headed owner breathing down folks necks. I don't believe both Capers and TT would have survived the past 5 seasons otherwise. One perhaps. But not both.
If anything, of any consequence will be announced, it'll likely be announced between now and here. TT usually let's MM do any of that kind of dirty work:
Packers coach Mike McCarthy will hold his season-ending press conference on Thursday at 10:30 a.m.
He won't announce any coach moves at the presser. He didn't after the SEA collapse and subsequent firings.
I'm sure he will be asked about it tho. He will need some kind of answer.
Like when they ask him about injured players and he says he hasn't met with the medical staff yet, he'll tell us he is still conducting exit interviews or hasn't started yet.
And that is probably the truth. Player interviews the last 2 days, meetings with front office staff and then coach evaluations after that.
Come on, we all know Dom gets the injured player pass again even though we were only missing 1 starter on that side of the ball.
My kingdom for even an average defense.
We need new tape & a new scheme.
I can't stress it enough. 31 teams know how to beat Dom's defense in Green Bay.
Dom, we appreciate the ONE Super Bowl, but please....it's time to move forward.
That is all.....Thank you.
At some point, something's gotta give, because this is what we're squandering (and taking for granted):
Aaron Rodgers squandered the beginning of this season.
GBFanForLife posted:Aaron Rodgers squandered the beginning of this season.
I don't think I can disagree with you there; but at 4-6 he put on his big boys pants and changed his mindset, approach to the game, and led the team on a remarkable run. He said himself that we wasn't playing well and needed to do better. He did.
TT/Dom only say trust the scheme, next man up, our philosophy is our philosophy, and so on and so forth. That's the major difference here, and it needs to be addressed before another embarrassing elimination game.
The defense did not win many if any games for the Pack this year. AR had to out score what his defense allowed to win. Defensive stops sometimes meant a turnover. If the defense had some pick six or fumble recoveries that were scooped up and taken in for a score things might have been different. Even in the streak, opposing offenses out gained our team's offense. That is what needs to be fixed. If AR had the luxury of a good defense, the Pack may have been undefeated this year.
So Aaron Rodgers leading the NFL in TDs the first 10 weeks of the season while the defense is giving up an NFL worst 28 points per game over that same period is Aaron squandering the beginning of the season.
I'm just glad Aaron was able to look in the ****ing mirror after Washington and play some really super terrific QB and the defense buckled down to get that average points per all the way down to 24.3.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:The defense did not win many if any games for the Pack this year. AR had to out score what his defense allowed to win. Defensive stops sometimes meant a turnover. If the defense had some pick six or fumble recoveries that were scooped up and taken in for a score things might have been different. Even in the streak, opposing offenses out gained our team's offense. That is what needs to be fixed. If AR had the luxury of a good defense, the Pack may have been undefeated this year.
This is spot on.
I don't want to compare it to the Vikings because I hate them, but look at what that team was able to do behind their defense in the first five weeks of the season with a mid- to low-tier quarterback and no running backs. Resulting record? 5-0 on 12 turnovers; then 3-8 on 15 turnovers (and if you take out their Week 17 game against the bears that had 5 turnovers, that number drops to 10 from Weeks 6 through 16). In other words, defense and the ability to force turnovers are vital to success in this league.
We're good on offense, we have to build a defense--and not in the draft. Bring in seasoned players like Dotson, White, Woodson, Pickett, etc. This undrafted free agent nonsense is tiring. They're undrafted for a reason. On the field in a Packers uniform is not the place for them to prove why they were undrafted.
Zero margin for error at the QB position with a defense as abysmal as the Packers have. AR has to almost play perfect every week and that's a completely unreasonable standard. Really amazing that the defensive issue has been going on for years and the organization has been content to stick with the status quo for so long.
Gotta think wolf interest in Indy is mutual especially with Ron and Eliot knowing the importance of having a franchise QB.
GBFanForLife posted:Aaron Rodgers squandered the beginning of this season.
Rodgers could have played better in the first 10 games, but he did throw 25 TDs against 7 interceptions. That's a ratio of 3.57.
Rodgers' lifetime ratio is 4.12 - first all time. The next best QB in history is Brady at 3.00.
So the first 10 games of the year we had a QB (who was playing as poorly as he had in a long time) that put up a TD/Interception ratio better than any other QB in history and we only managed to go 4-6?
I think we all need to go back and watch tapes of David Whitehurst, Jerry Tagge, Randy Wright, Anthony Dilweg, Blair Kiel, etc.
michiganjoe posted:Zero margin for error at the QB position with a defense as abysmal as the Packers have. AR has to almost play perfect every week and that's a completely unreasonable standard. Really amazing that the defensive issue has been going on for years and the organization has been content to stick with the status quo for so long.
Exactly. As good as AR is at some point he is probably going to say "hey I need some help at some point especially from the defense"
Which brings me to a thought. If we as fans behind keyboards can see the issues on defense so obviously you would have to think that NFL players would be seeing it as well. So as an example if you are an NFL free agent looking for a team do you shy away from a team that for years has had defensive issues like we just saw or do you see it as an opportunity? I guess it would be on the player to decide but I would have to wonder if the status quo could affect their choice.
Money typically affects their choice.
"Ted is back, I don't see any change in him in far as his vision." MM
Good. He's at the Senior Bowl finding gems right now.
So Cooper Kupp in the first round then. WHITEY POWER!
Teddy, do not draft any former safeties, basketball players or short stops and expect them to play corner for us. In fact, if a player has so much as touched a round ball, they should be banned from playing corner for the Green Bay Packers.
Are you saying Julius Peppers cannot be converted to a corner?
