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@CUPackFan posted:

I don't think GB should take any input from Rodgers in a trade.  Tell him if he wants a trade, GB will pursue one but that he'll go to the team of GBs choice based on conference/division and trade compensation.

That would be a terrible decision. 12 holds more cards than you think. Any trade would almost certainly include a restructuring of his current contract. 12 can simply refuse a restructure to a team he isn’t willing to play for, which effectively negates any potential deal. That, or he can retire and GB gets nothing in return.

GB damn well better have 12 involved in these discussions.

@Timpranillo posted:

It’s almost 130pm in Green Bay and Mo Drayton still is employed. The FO is probably sledding.

Maybe they are making him use up his vacation days before they fire him so they don't have to pay them out too.

I think you are living in an alternate reality

Rodgers loses a whole lot of money if he quits, I mean, retires, and GBP still retain his rights.

He can let the team know he wants a trade but the GBP can direct him what team and what package back in return.  And you know if that happens the Packers will force the issue and tag Adams to get more back in return.

If 12 wants more control he should have played MLB or NBA.  The players union in the NFL whored themselves out for money and not player interest or control.  

Wow...you watch the clutch play of Brady and Stafford in today's playoff game and I think...maybe there is something about Rodgers that keeps him from consistently winning big playoff games.

We may not be great, but I won't miss him.

@Johnson posted:

Wow...you watch the clutch play of Brady and Stafford in today's playoff game and I think...maybe there is something about Rodgers that keeps him from consistently winning big playoff games.

We may not be great, but I won't miss him.

There's been a pattern.

Fun Fact

In 21 career playoff games, Rodgers has had a QB Rating under 90 four times. The Packers were 1-3 in these games.

In 46 career playoff games, TB has had a QB Rating under 90 twenty-two times.  Brady’s teams were 13-9 those games.

@lovepack posted:

AR's legacy was etched in permanent ink yesterday. The great ones carry the team on their backs.

Exactly, and #12 stinks when the game really counts........he doesn’t know how to carry a team on his back.  🤮

@D J posted:

Fact: AR has been to 1 SB.

You mean the Packers have been to one Super Bowl during Rodgers tenure. 

The Packers.  The team.  The whole of a team that needs championship caliber players in all units to win a championship.

The Packers have only been to one Super Bowl. 

Pretty sure that's what you meant.

@lovepack posted:

AR's legacy was etched in permanent ink yesterday. The great ones carry the team on their backs.

You mean like Tom Brady in last year's NFCC with 3 picks? 

Is that why defense wins championships?

@Henry posted:

You mean the Packers have been to one Super Bowl during Rodgers tenure.

The Packers.  The team.  The whole of a team that needs championship caliber players in all units to win a championship.

The Packers have only been to one Super Bowl.

Pretty sure that's what you meant.

Pretty sure that Rodgers has only been to 1 SB. Maybe I missed one?

Playoffs have always been about the best players stepping up with the game on the line.

Depending on what one may believe is true, Houston wants 6 players for a D. Watson trade, whether it's a combination of 1 player/5 draft picks or 2 players/4 draft picks. The rumor is that 3 of those draft picks have to be 1st round.

The Rams gave 2 1st-round picks ('22 and '23), a 3rd-round pick in 2021, plus Goff for Stafford.

I'd expect Rodgers' trade value to be somewhere between those two.
Houston is far from realistic. The Rams payed a small ransom, but their deal was more realistic.

I should mention that C. Wentz was traded to the Colts for a conditional 2nd-round pick (that became a 1st-rounder) in 2022, and a 3rd-round pick this year. But I can't see how this would be relevant to a possible Rodgers trade, for many obvious reasons.

A team like Denver hasn't sniffed the playoffs in years. You'd be surprised what an emotional, motivated owner can order his team to do to get back into the playoffs and be relevant again.

All it takes is one owner to offer a kings ransom and a deal like that is suddenly pulled off.

@PackLandVA posted:

Fun Fact

In 21 career playoff games, Rodgers has had a QB Rating under 90 four times. The Packers were 1-3 in these games.

In 46 career playoff games, TB has had a QB Rating under 90 twenty-two times.  Brady’s teams were 13-9 those games.

You know where you can stick that QB ratings stat? Just fucking win. Aaron was over 90 against the 9ers with a defense that gave up SIX points. He couldn’t muster up more than 10 points.

There is no baseline for what the Packers could get in return for Rodgers.

To me, the Stafford deal is the absolute floor and I don’t care what anyone says he’s 2/3 of the QB that Rodgers is.  He’s lucky to still be playing in the postseason and he’s not exactly known for rising to the occasion either.

To me, it’s a factor of 6 meaning 4 draft picks and 2 established players.   And the draft picks have to be 1s and 2s.  Perhaps they throw in an additional player.  Make it more interesting and include 17 in a sign and trade.  

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@Henry posted:

You mean the Packers have been to one Super Bowl during Rodgers tenure.

The Packers.  The team.  The whole of a team that needs championship caliber players in all units to win a championship.

The Packers have only been to one Super Bowl.

Pretty sure that's what you meant.

Exactly.  I think too often the credit/blame goes to the QB.  In some circumstances that would be correct but to get to a Super Bowl or to win one everything has to align.  You have to have all facets of the team working offense, defense, special teams, front office is doing their thing, good coaching, and get lucky with injuries. 

I for one in Rodgers tenure still blame the defenses for the most part for their playoff failures.  Saturday being obviously not the case.

@YATittle posted:

What I don’t get is there have been so many times that Rodgers has taken the team on his back in the past. Yet versus the Bucs and the Niners it didn’t happen. Odd.

he hasn't shown up in the biggest post-season games for the past few years.   don't know why.   but it sucks. 

@packerboi posted:

A team like Denver hasn't sniffed the playoffs in years. You'd be surprised what an emotional, motivated owner can order his team to do to get back into the playoffs and be relevant again.

All it takes is one owner to offer a kings ransom and a deal like that is suddenly pulled off.

And their ownership is who

@YATittle posted:

What I don’t get is there have been so many times that Rodgers has taken the team on his back in the past. Yet versus the Bucs and the Niners it didn’t happen. Odd.

physical teams that can pressure with 4 - he REALLY struggles with that.

@pkr_north posted:

physical teams that can pressure with 4 - he REALLY struggles with that.

1996: Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Sean Jones, Gilbert Brown

2010: BJ Raji, Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, CM3

1-2 big run stuffer and 2-3 elite pass rushers causes a lot of guys to struggle. Even opposing QBs.

@michiganjoe posted:

Herman has seen the all-22 and it shows what most of us suspected.

Comment: The offense runs better without Devante, because Rodgers spreads the ball around.

Rodgers Mafia: So you are saying Devante sucks?


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