Sooo.... Packers are locked into 30, 31 or 32 this year.
They cannot be #29 because both Tennessee & KC have worse records. Neither KC nor Tennessee can be. #30.
Thought that was interesting
Raiders knew what they were doing with that Mack trade.
The bears didn't know what they were doing
haha on the Raiders.... bowl haircut, but a genius.
It's hilarious the narrative shift on Bears twitter from a year ago. Ryan Pace was a genius who made a brilliant trade to get Trubisky and then suckered the Raiders into giving up Khalil Mack. No he got fleeced by rookie GM John Lynch in the Trubisky trade and mortgaged the future with Mack at the expense of real talent. Also Nagy/Helfrich went from dominant football minds for the next decade to Nagy should probably also follow Helfrich out the door. The mob is fickle.
Dating back to "The Tragedy of Julius Caesar," which I teach, people are always fickle. In 1991 more than 91% of the American people approved of the job George Bush was doing as President. 18 months later Clinton beats him.
Not really related to this draft but go back and look at the rosters for the ALA v. CLE 2016 CFP championship game. Just stacked up and down with NFL talent. Really good NFL talent.
Great NFL players can obviously come from any school... but yea, I'd be scouting the hell out of the SEC and Clemson every damn year.
Those LSU receivers too. They look goooood!
Alabama has three WRs in the top 10 at the position in this year's draft. The crazy part is that they have dudes on the bench that we don't even know exist that are just waiting for an opportunity to get on the field. Crazy talent stockpiled down there under Saban.
This news may benefit GB. We might actually have a top ILB available to us in the 30’s. His injury may propel some players ahead of him. We can grab a WR in R2 where the values are better. This guy is going to be a stud ILB in the NFL.
.@TexasTechFB LB Jordyn Brooks, a likely 2020 1st-round pick, tells @Gil_Brandt & me on @SiriusXMNFL at @WalterCampFF he underwent Dec shoulder surgery that requires 4-to-6 months recovery. Focused now on improving mental aspects of his game like coverage concepts while rehabbing
— Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) January 18, 2020
Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
Thaddeus Moss declared.
Best OT or WR on the board at 32. $40 million in cap space. No need to dip into the FA market. GB is in a good place heading to a SB.
Pakrz posted:Great NFL players can obviously come from any school... but yea, I'd be scouting the hell out of the SEC and Clemson every damn year.
O$U as well. 35 guys drafted from 2016-19 including 12 first round picks. The list includes multiple superstar level guys - both Bosas, Michael Thomas, Marshon Lattimore.
Very similar numbers to Alabama. 40 guys drafted from 2016-19 with 12 first round picks.
YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Graham Mertz will step in after Rodgers retires.
The plan is already in place
MichiganPacker2 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Why would any team ever take an Alabama QB? Name 1 that has even been moderately successful since Namath.....
El-Nuke-the-Hurricanes-Bong posted:Graham Mertz will step in after Rodgers retires.
The plan is already in place
Lets wait and see if he beats out JC.
MNPackman posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Why would any team ever take an Alabama QB? Name 1 that has even been moderately successful since Namath.....
Scott Hunter
MNPackman posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Why would any team ever take an Alabama QB? Name 1 that has even been moderately successful since Namath.....
Tua was a completely different QB than any other recent Bama QB. He's a prototypical pocket passer.
I'd have zero problem drafting lap dropper Tua. Let him rehab and learn. There's a real need for a backup QB as well. Good present and future investment.
bvan posted:Fred and Ethel's kid?
I would say 80% of the posters here have no idea who fred and Ethel are. Maybe higher
Floridarob posted:bvan posted:Fred and Ethel's kid?
I would say 80% of the posters here have no idea who fred and Ethel are. Maybe higher
Are they fans who refuse to stand during the games?
No, they were the ones who tell you to sit down. Particularly that Fred, told me to go get him a brandy manhattan.
Brandy Old Fashioned.
Let's get the history straight.
MNPackman posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Why would any team ever take an Alabama QB? Name 1 that has even been moderately successful since Namath.....
Come on... what a silly argument.
Using that terminology, you'd never take Patrick Mahomes out of Texas Tech, or Peyton Manning out of Tennessee, or Russell Wilson out of Wisconsin, etc.
All signs point to Tua being an excellent NFL prospect. If he falls to GB at 32, you take him without question.
Pakrz posted:MNPackman posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I'd consider Tua if he fell to 30-32. No way he does, but letting a guy like that rehab for 1-2 years and then grooming him to replace Rodgers in 3-4 years could set them up to transition the same way they did from Favre to Rodgers.
Why would any team ever take an Alabama QB? Name 1 that has even been moderately successful since Namath.....
Come on... what a silly argument.
Using that terminology, you'd never take Patrick Mahomes out of Texas Tech, or Peyton Manning out of Tennessee, or Russell Wilson out of Wisconsin, etc.
All signs point to Tua being an excellent NFL prospect. If he falls to GB at 32, you take him without question.
This brings up an interesting point. What school has generated the most HOF QBs in the last two decades? Almost all of the are from different schools.
This is a list of HOFers and potential HOF QBs that have played since 2000.
The current guys that are likely to be HOFers are Brady (Michigan), Brees (Purdue), Rodgers (Cal), Mahomes (Texas Tech), Wilson (NC State/Wisconsin), and Big Ben (Miami, Ohio). The maybes are Philip Rivers (NC State), Matt Ryan (Boston College), Cam Newton (Auburn), and Eli Manning (Ole Miss).
Recent guys (last 15 years) are P. Manning (Tennessee), Favre (Southern Miss), and Kurt Warner (Northern Iowa).
Not much of a pattern from that group of 13 and NC State is the only one that appears twice.
YooperPackfan posted:Just say no to players coming off injuries that require 6 months to recover....especially in the first round
I get that, but he’s a guy who, if healthy, would probably have been a top 20 pick. Depends on the nature of the injury, but getting a really good value on a player that will heal is a dream scenario for a team picking in the 30’s. Hard to pass up if everything checks out.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Pakrz posted:Great NFL players can obviously come from any school... but yea, I'd be scouting the hell out of the SEC and Clemson every damn year.
O$U as well. 35 guys drafted from 2016-19 including 12 first round picks. The list includes multiple superstar level guys - both Bosas, Michael Thomas, Marshon Lattimore.
Very similar numbers to Alabama. 40 guys drafted from 2016-19 with 12 first round picks.
I don't care what their record is, I think OSU is the Minnesota vikings of college football.
Pretty sure he was going for Bart Starr with that question. Or maybe not.
mrtundra posted:MichiganPacker2 posted:Pakrz posted:Great NFL players can obviously come from any school... but yea, I'd be scouting the hell out of the SEC and Clemson every damn year.
O$U as well. 35 guys drafted from 2016-19 including 12 first round picks. The list includes multiple superstar level guys - both Bosas, Michael Thomas, Marshon Lattimore.
Very similar numbers to Alabama. 40 guys drafted from 2016-19 with 12 first round picks.
I don't care what their record is, I think OSU is the Minnesota vikings of college football.
Except that OSU has 8 national titles including two this century.