Mark Murphy...he's a complicated fella...
@packerboi posted:What the fuck does Murphy actually do??
Do you know what's even more impressive than LaFleur's record? The way he's handled all the shit involving 12 for the past 6 months. With Murphy & Gutekunst - the people most involved - staying quiet, it's been up to LaFleur to handle most of the questions. He's done a great job.
— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) November 4, 2021Mark Murphy broke up the power structure so the head coach, GM and cap guy would all be reporting to him. He should be the one answering these questions about Covid protocols and NFL investigations. Not LaFleur. Not Gutey. Not Russ Ball. Murphy.
— Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) November 4, 2021
Takes all the credit when things go well and deflects all the blame when they don't.
Somebody needs to be held accountable for this mess. It could cost the Packers $250, 000 to $500,000 when you look at how the NFL has held other teams accountable. I don't want it to be LaFluer, nor should it be Gutey. The logical choice is then Murphy. If he tries to fire either of the other 2 then the Executive Committee needs to move on him immeadiately. Clean up this mess.
How about we hold Rodgers accountable?
A position of Dik Tater until retirement doesn't bode well for the future.
A 7-1 football team loaded with talent... why are we talking about how fucked up the FO is and whether or not people should be fired?
Because Rodgers can't possibly be at fault for missing the game on Sunday
Because the front office allowed Rodgers to flaunt the rules. Sure Rodgers needs to be held accountable but how? Fine him the amount the NFL may fine the Packers? You know the NFLPA will oppose that. Suspend him and use the missed game checks for fines and charity? This is a real mess and won't be resolved for quite some time.
Fuck Rodgers and his hippy goat piss drinking ass
Is the serving suggestion neat or on the rocks?
@ammo posted:Somebody needs to be held accountable for this mess. It could cost the Packers $250, 000 to $500,000 when you look at how the NFL has held other teams accountable. I don't want it to be LaFluer, nor should it be Gutey. The logical choice is then Murphy. If he tries to fire either of the other 2 then the Executive Committee needs to move on him immeadiately. Clean up this mess.
I think the most they can fine Rodgers is something like $50,000. His last contract (if they move on after this year) averages about $32,000,000 a year. That's the equivalent of fining someone that makes 100K a year $156.
@GBFanForLife posted:Because Rodgers can't possibly be at fault for missing the game on Sunday
Does he get paid? Clay doesn’t grow on trees you know.
I'm just thankful he won't be around much longer. He really screwed up the FO structure and can't get his mouth out of his ass. Maybe he really shouldn't be the spokesperson. At least he's got the Alfred E. Neuman Sledding Hill as his legacy.
Players run this league thanks to NFLPA by and large. Unless a crime is committed, they get away with a lot shit. Not just A-A-Ron.
@tsr86free posted:Murphy should go work for Century 21. Problem solved and he gets to chase real estate.
He could sell lots which could be developed into sledding hills!
@Chongo posted:Players run this league thanks to NFLPA by and large. Unless a crime is committed, they get away with a lot shit. Not just A-A-Ron.
Which is bonkers when you consider that it is the owner who put their bodies on the line and entertain millions of people every Sunday. The NFLPA has really screwed ownership into barely making billions of dollars every year.
But the owners don’t pla…..hey, I see what you did there, Karl Marx.
@Blair Kiel posted:How about we hold Rodgers accountable?
Are you trying to cancel Rodgers?
See it again in the 'Rodgers Speaks' thread.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Are you trying to cancel Rodgers?
Cancel Culture doesn’t exist.
@Blair Kiel posted:Cancel Culture doesn’t exist.
Bobcat Goldthwait.
Well, this will go over well. Hard to believe Murphy would get into this side of the business. Isn't this what Russ does? Does Gute have any control over this?
🚨 This Just In: Mark Murphy is the main reason why the #Packers failed to land Odell Beckham, Jr., per sources. I’m told HC Matt LaFleur wanted OBJ, believing his acquisition would be both seamless/positive for GB offense. Murphy lowballed Beckham, while #Rams believed in him. https://t.co/kTbbL9z0OX
— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) November 12, 2021
And he now deleted the above tweet.,.
It’s not hard to believe.
Whether it’s true is another question.
Is Jordan Schultz a nom de plume for Joe Arrigo? Or maybe Adam Schefter?
@packerboi posted:And he now deleted the above tweet.,.
New tweet, same link.
#Packers foolishly only offered Odell Beckham the vet minimum. #Rams blew that out of the water with a deal loaded in incentives - but also with more guaranteed money - totaling $4.25M. It’s a win-win and a monster move for an already stacked offense. https://t.co/szY3f6Yffq
— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) November 12, 2021
Vet minimum. Really? I mean I'm not broken up about not signing OBJ but for fuck sakes, vet minimum?
Why would a player even want to visit the Packers?
I'm sure FA will be a blast after Rodgers is gone and the FO lowballing every coach and player that comes along.
@Thunderbird posted:rams overpaid
They absolutely did. They could've offered half that and still blew the Packers offer out of the water. According to this guy OBJ preferred the Packers.
Sources say #Packers front office never really bought into OBJ, causing him to feel disrespected. Had they changed their stance and come up even a little bit from the vet min offer, Odell Beckham is a Green Bay Packer today - preparing to face the #Seahawks at Lambeau. https://t.co/MzortRcKmE
— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) November 12, 2021
Jeebus Friggin' Christ Almighty.
So now the FO are fools because they didn't sign OBJ?
Every time some jerkwad FA is available (see Richard Sherman), people start humping air thinking the Packers HAVE to sign them. No other consideration of any associated costs, Green Bay needs them, period.
Methinks Jordan Schultz is a moran.
If the Packers didn't sign OBJ because the actual football people didn't think it was worth it, that's fine. They've led the team to a 35-10 record over 3 years. They seem to know what they are doing. Sure, they have a HOF QB, but so did MM and he managed to go 10-12-1 his last two seasons when Rodgers started.
If MLF and Gute both wanted to sign OBJ and Mark Murphy vetoed it and was the one negotiating the deal (as Schulz' tweet suggested it was him not Gute), then this front office is doomed to implode at some point.
We've talked about this before, but the structure of the organization should be.
Mark Murphy - hire the GM and get the hell out of the way after that. At the end of every season, decide how long to extend the GMs contract, whether to retain him, or whether to move on. Other than that, leave the day-to-day decisions to the GM (Gute). If you are deciding whether to extend someone like Rodgers or Adams where you might be guaranteeing 80-100 million, then you have a fiduciary role for the organization to get involved, but Murphy's opinion should not matter at all about whether to give someone OBJ 2-3 million to finish out the year.
Gute- make ALL football decisions. Period. Exclamation point. Hire the head coach and get out of his way on schemes and assistant coach hires.
Ball - be the bookkeeper and once Gute gets your honest and clear opinion on the capomics of something, do exactly what Gute tells you to do. Other than saying hello to Murphy in the hall, Ball should NEVER talk to Murphy about anything football-related without Gute in the room.
MLF- be the football coach. Have responsibility for hiring your own staff. Give Gute your opinion on what players you'd like to have, who you'd like to waive, etc. Who should be a priority to resign, etc. Stay out of being directly involved with salary negotiations and cap charges (see Mike Sherman and Mike McKenzie).
MLF plays his part well, but he's apparently been overruled by MURPHY on some stuff that still haunts them (Special teams coaches). Gute seemingly does a good job and the new information on Rodgers suggests he has no major issues with Gute.
Ball is supposed to the cautious one, warning them about impending cap issues. He's good in that role, but he should report directly to Gute NOT Murphy.
In the end, Murphy' looks like a great (equivalent of an) owner because the same people he won't give the proper authority to (MLF and Gute) are doing a good job supplementing the talent of the superstars they inherited (Rodgers, Adams, Bakh, Clark) with new talent they've drafted (Alexander, Jenkins).