Brainwashed Boris posted:He's a body on the O-Line which they needed when Bulaga was out.
He's not even a speed bump. They could go sign a guy off the street and immediately improve Oline depth.
Henry posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:He's a body on the O-Line which they needed when Bulaga was out.
He's not even a speed bump. They could go sign a guy off the street and immediately improve Oline depth.
That’s just stupid. Interior guys were far more the issue than OTs. Spriggs is not a finished product. That why if he shows signs of getting it, you keep him. I suspect that precisely what they’ll do- it’s getting noticed that he’s improving. And maybe you’re ultimately right- That he’s too soft to stick. So they’ll bring in competition with some picks and see what happens. I’m ok with that.
But I’ll simply repeat what I said earlier - he may have played himself back onto the roster. And that’s a good thing.
59 Team tackles against NYJ, 0 for CM. Was he injured? Did he play? I didn't watch game.
I expect Spriggs back in July, but won't be one bit surprised if he's gone by September. The guy had his rookie year, spent much of yr 2 on IR, and was up and down in yr 3. He'll get the start of yr 4 to show he deserves to see the end of yr 4.
CM3 looked to be playing to stay healthy.
Hungry5 posted:CM3 looked to be playing to stay healthy.
He was inspired by Haha
Fandame posted:M. Lewis, Kendricks are gone; .... Bell is gone;
Why would they not re-sign some reliable veteran depth? These aren't big money guys and fill a role.
The team isn't going to jettison all the vet TEs without adequate replacement.
The first change I'd make is getting Tonyan on the field. I see no reason he couldn't assume Kendricks' role at the very least, although he's likely ready for more.
If we acquire another TE, I'd love to see one that can actually block consistently, and be used against the Macks and Donalds in our division and conference.
Bell, OTOH, is tits on a bull. I'll concede he's a vet and he's not expensive, but he has no worth or value to the team, and is a "QB Killer". NOT what we need in GB.
JMHOs, others may vary.
I don't want Bell starting, but there are a lot of holes to fill and he's better than some undrafted choad that TT was so fond of putting on the roster that suddenly has to start. They could replace him with some other veteran also, I wouldn't be upset at all.
Music City posted:Henry posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:He's a body on the O-Line which they needed when Bulaga was out.
He's not even a speed bump. They could go sign a guy off the street and immediately improve Oline depth.
That’s just stupid. Interior guys were far more the issue than OTs. Spriggs is not a finished product. That why if he shows signs of getting it, you keep him. I suspect that precisely what they’ll do- it’s getting noticed that he’s improving. And maybe you’re ultimately right- That he’s too soft to stick. So they’ll bring in competition with some picks and see what happens. I’m ok with that.
But I’ll simply repeat what I said earlier - he may have played himself back onto the roster. And that’s a good thing.
Right. Spriggs is going to lock down RT and make Buluga expendable. Who is stupid in this equation? It's always a good sign when a 2nd round pick is going into the 4th year hoping to be springboard to the rank of bottom or the roster depth. But don't worry, Spriggs will take care of RT and depth. Idiot. The only reason that stiff sticks is because there are 3 legit Olinemen, 4 when Buluga isn't hurt. That's 4 to 6 rosters spots to fill. Spriggs wins on numbers and the fact he was a 2nd round pick.
Timmy! posted:The team isn't going to jettison all the vet TEs without adequate replacement.
The first change I'd make is getting Tonyan on the field. I see no reason he couldn't assume Kendricks' role at the very least, although he's likely ready for more.
If we acquire another TE, I'd love to see one that can actually block consistently, and be used against the Macks and Donalds in our division and conference.Bell, OTOH, is tits on a bull. I'll concede he's a vet and he's not expensive, but he has no worth or value to the team, and is a "QB Killer". NOT what we need in GB.
JMHOs, others may vary.
McCray is the QB killer and already proved it. Bell isn't anything to write home about but he was about the best depth on this team. That's saying something. Something horrible. This team needs a lot of help on Oline.
Lucas Patrick appears to be providing a bit of stability at RG that neither McCray or Bell could. Whether he's the long-term answer there is another matter.
Henry:
The only reason that stiff sticks is because there are 3 legit Olinemen, 4 when Buluga isn't hurt. That's 4 to 6 rosters spots to fill.
Henry posted:Timmy! posted:The team isn't going to jettison all the vet TEs without adequate replacement.
The first change I'd make is getting Tonyan on the field. I see no reason he couldn't assume Kendricks' role at the very least, although he's likely ready for more.
If we acquire another TE, I'd love to see one that can actually block consistently, and be used against the Macks and Donalds in our division and conference.Bell, OTOH, is tits on a bull. I'll concede he's a vet and he's not expensive, but he has no worth or value to the team, and is a "QB Killer". NOT what we need in GB.
JMHOs, others may vary.
McCray is the QB killer and already proved it. Bell isn't anything to write home about but he was about the best depth on this team. That's saying something. Something horrible. This team needs a lot of help on Oline.
Funny thing about McCray, he seemed to play significantly better at LG vs. Jets. In fact PFF had him as their highest rated player at that position last week. Perhaps it was a result of who he was blocking.
50 drunks in a bar.....
Don't bring Viking fans into this discussion.
phaedrus posted:Henry:
The only reason that stiff sticks is because there are 3 legit Olinemen, 4 when Buluga isn't hurt. That's 4 to 6 rosters spots to fill.
Go **** yourself you mug of dumpster juice.
FLPACKER posted:Henry posted:Timmy! posted:The team isn't going to jettison all the vet TEs without adequate replacement.
The first change I'd make is getting Tonyan on the field. I see no reason he couldn't assume Kendricks' role at the very least, although he's likely ready for more.
If we acquire another TE, I'd love to see one that can actually block consistently, and be used against the Macks and Donalds in our division and conference.Bell, OTOH, is tits on a bull. I'll concede he's a vet and he's not expensive, but he has no worth or value to the team, and is a "QB Killer". NOT what we need in GB.
JMHOs, others may vary.
McCray is the QB killer and already proved it. Bell isn't anything to write home about but he was about the best depth on this team. That's saying something. Something horrible. This team needs a lot of help on Oline.
Funny thing about McCray, he seemed to play significantly better at LG vs. Jets. In fact PFF had him as their highest rated player at that position last week. Perhaps it was a result of who he was blocking.
When the season started, I thought McCray would be fine and hold his own as a starter. The dropoff on some of these guys was drastic. The entire offense just seemed lost. I have more faith in McCray bouncing back (if he's still with the team) than Spriggs ever becoming productive. In fact, I'm interested to see who the next oline coach is and maybe there could be a reclamation project or two. We'll pencil Spriggs to lock up the participation medal. There's a victory.
Henry posted:phaedrus posted:Henry:
The only reason that stiff sticks is because there are 3 legit Olinemen, 4 when Buluga isn't hurt. That's 4 to 6 rosters spots to fill.Go **** yourself you mug of dumpster juice.
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Henry:
Go **** yourself you mug of dumpster juice.
Sorry you lacked my prescience. But, as always, you make up for things with your decorum.
phaedrus posted:Henry:
Go **** yourself you mug of dumpster juice.Sandy Hook is a hoax, a false flag. No one died, these are all crisis actors.
Be glad this is online you ****. Take your Alex Jones shit and suck a pipe. This should be your avatar. A different victim of Sandy hook every two weeks. That'll get you through an entire year. You may need a quote next to it saying "crisis actor".
How many times have you spouted your shit in public? I bet none because you'd get your ass kicked all over the parking lot. I haven't said shit before since the owners graciously let you exist on this board. The minute you think you can interact with me, gloves off you ****. Again, count your lucky god damn stars this isn't face to face you prick.
I'll make sure to post this pic in every single reply your sorry ass posts here on out.
And bring on any comers who want to talk about free speech but then are too chicken shit to get what's coming to them in kind.
For the record. I believe much of what Alex Jones speaks of and your representation of AJ is straight from MSM talking points and not from listening to him directly. But this his way off topic. Just thought I needed to point out the error in your AJ reference. Now. Back to dumpster juice and head coaches...
Do people who are crazy...know they're crazy?
How the hell did this go from Head Coach talk to Sandy Hook? Who brought up Sandy Hook and Alex Jones?
I can't see Clay or Cobb back next year. Cobb is too often injured to take a roster spot, especially when so much playing time has been invested in ESB and MVS (by necessity). They're not going to give up on Moore that fast, either. Adams is being used in the slot more and slot receivers are a dime a dozen. Clay is done. He's been effective in the run game, but that is all.
Perry won't be going anywhere, especially with his cap hit. There are just too many deficiencies to fill them all in one year through the draft and FA. The whole defense needs a rebuild, particularly the LBs and safeties.
bigdoggyjude posted:For the record. I believe much of what Alex Jones speaks of and your representation of AJ is straight from MSM talking points and not from listening to him directly. But this his way off topic. Just thought I needed to point out the error in your AJ reference. Now. Back to dumpster juice and head coaches...
I doubt even AJ believes half the sh!t that comes out of his mouth. It’s all about the $$$.
Henry posted:
I am not the forum police. I will not be escalating this further.
Then police both... not one standard for Henry to air dirty laundry and another for anyone who won’t stand for it.
Music City posted:Then police both... not one standard for Henry to air dirty laundry and another for anyone who won’t stand for it.
Exactly.
I think we can go ahead and cut this shit out and get back to the topic.
Here's who I'd like to see re-signed and the max I would pay them. If they agree to come back in that salary range then let them compete in camp, if they hold out for more then they walk. I'd like to see Breeland return, seems like he's provided some leadership to that group.
Clay Matthews, OLB, 33, UFA (Re-sign <$5M)
Randall Cobb, WR, 29, UFA (Re-sign <$5M)
Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, 30, UFA (Re-sign <$5M)
Marcedes Lewis, TE, 35, UFA (Re-sign <$2M)
Lance Kendricks, TE, 31, UFA
Byron Bell, RT, 30, UFA (Re-sign <$2M)
Davon House, CB, 30, UFA
Bashaud Breeland, CB, 27, UFA (Re-sign <$8M)
Eddie Pleasant, FS, 30, UFA
Ibraheim Campbell, SS, 27, UFA
Jake Ryan, ILB, 27, UFA
Geronimo Allison, WR, 25, RFA (2nd round tender - $3.1M)
Dan Vitale, FB, 24, UFA
Lucas Patrick, G, 26, ERFA
Justin McCray, G, 27, ERFA
Adam Pankey, T, 25, ERFA
Kentrell Brice, S, 25, RFA (no tender, maybe re-sign at minimum)
Reggie Gilbert, DE, 26, ERFA
Robert Tonyan Jr., WR, 25, ERFA
Jake Kumerov, WR, 27, ERFA
Fadol Brown, DE, 26, ERFA
Kendall Donnerson, DE, 23, ERFA
Music City posted:Then police both... not one standard for Henry to air dirty laundry and another for anyone who won’t stand for it.
You will let this go and not escalate further.
Floridarob posted:Music City posted:Then police both... not one standard for Henry to air dirty laundry and another for anyone who won’t stand for it.
Exactly.
Air dirty laundry? The **** posted it here himself. Feel free to defend clowns that think the murder of 20 kids and 6 adults is fiction. It looks great on you both.
bigdoggyjude posted:For the record. I believe much of what Alex Jones speaks of and your representation of AJ is straight from MSM talking points and not from listening to him directly. But this his way off topic. Just thought I needed to point out the error in your AJ reference. Now. Back to dumpster juice and head coaches...
AJ is all about the $$$, and always has been. All the way back to his public access show on local ATX cable in the 80's (think Wayne's World). I know a few poeple who've known Jones since then and he's the guy everyone has made fun of since middle school.
Can't really argue with your list GD, though I'd like to keep Ibraheim Campbell.
What terms are you talking for the first 4? Prove it deals or 2-3 year deals? I could see an incentive contract for Matthews and Cobb. Kind of wondering what the thinking on Wilkerson will be considering we don't know what the defensive scheme will be either. If Pettine is gone, even Matthews might not be a fit.
To me, I'd give Cobb, Matthews, Wilkerson, & Bell 3 yr deals that are heavily incentivized.
I'd make sure they bring back G-Mo. He was their 2nd best WR to start the year and seems to be synced with AR.
I think he's the only guy on that list that gets a standard contract. Wilkerson was looking good before getting dinged but I don't know if that's enough to invest longer than 2 years. I'd love to see Lewis come back, if he doesn't retire, and with a coach that'll use him (or any TE) for a wrinkle or two.