PackFoo posted:Perhaps Tommy Boy is going to dangle the HC/GM role in front of Gruden to sweeten the pot...
Good point, because it has been reported Davis dangled ownership as an incentive but the league likely won't go with that. However, other than Belichick, successful coaches/GM haven't worked out in this era of football.
Packdog posted:slowmo posted:Rollins and Thornton weren't PAC 12 players. The others were bad picks out of the PAC 12. Can't tell me 4th and 5th round picks dont have value.
Point is it had nothing to do with the PAC 12.
The first 3 posts were only about the PAC 12
Let me spell it out for you, then. The failure of those PAC 12 players had nothing to do with the fact they were from the PAC 12.
slowmo posted:PackFoo posted:Perhaps Tommy Boy is going to dangle the HC/GM role in front of Gruden to sweeten the pot...
Good point, because it has been reported Davis dangled ownership as an incentive but the league likely won't go with that. However, other than Belichick, successful coaches/GM haven't worked out in this era of football.
Um, Michael Francis Sherman disagrees with your nonsense.
When has AR ever gone out of his way to praise MM? He has been remarkably indifferent. That says a lot IMO.
Much like TT, I have soured a lot on MM due to recent events that lead me to believe it's time for a change. Primarily how poorly prepared his teams have looked and his defensive posture to anyone else questioning their ineptitude. You ain't Belichek MM.
Let's also not forget McCarthy is loyal to a fault and that's cost them dearly. He was slow to can his buddy Slocum. He was even slower to can Dom. He's stuck with Hundley and become indignant when challenged about it. Bottom line, MM should thank his lucky stars that Rodgers fell into into his lap.
slowmo posted:Packdog posted:slowmo posted:Rollins and Thornton weren't PAC 12 players. The others were bad picks out of the PAC 12. Can't tell me 4th and 5th round picks dont have value.
Point is it had nothing to do with the PAC 12.
The first 3 posts were only about the PAC 12
Let me spell it out for you, then. The failure of those PAC 12 players had nothing to do with the fact they were from the PAC 12.
Ok I get what you mean, but you dont think Thompson and his scouts have put an unusual amount of focus on the PAC 12 - a second tier conference ? Or is this common criticism levied by many unwarranted ?
slowmo posted:PackFoo posted:Perhaps Tommy Boy is going to dangle the HC/GM role in front of Gruden to sweeten the pot...
Good point, because it has been reported Davis dangled ownership as an incentive but the league likely won't go with that. However, other than Belichick, successful coaches/GM haven't worked out in this era of football.
He studied at the Al Davis NFL GM School...a man who once thought Lane Kiffin was the best coach possible for his team, and Jamarcus Russell was going to re-invent the QB position.
There are stud football players in every conference in America. Our boy AR came from the PAC12. Pretty sure you're glad TT scouted that shiit up, eh?
Pakrz posted:Agree with others... The only external candidates considered would be guys that left.
If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say GB stays inside and promotes Wolf.
I think they will as well. I would bet the transition plan that was in place had been started a few years ago and Wolf will be the new boss.
PackFoo posted:slowmo posted:PackFoo posted:Perhaps Tommy Boy is going to dangle the HC/GM role in front of Gruden to sweeten the pot...
Good point, because it has been reported Davis dangled ownership as an incentive but the league likely won't go with that. However, other than Belichick, successful coaches/GM haven't worked out in this era of football.
He studied at the Al Davis NFL GM School...a man who once thought Lane Kiffin was the best coach possible for his team, and Jamarcus Russell was going to re-invent the QB position.
Cameltoe?
Pakrz posted:There are stud football players in every conference in America. Our boy AR came from the PAC12. Pretty sure you're glad TT scouted that shiit up, eh?
Clay Matthews hasn't been bad either.
From an earlier era, James Lofton wasn't bad. Rich Campbell on the other hand...
Mooseknuckle
Packdog posted:
Ok I get what you mean, but you dont think Thompson and his scouts have given an unusual amount of focus on the PAC 12 - a second tier conference ? Or is this common criticism levied by many unwarranted ?
No. Disagree the PAC 12 is a second tier conference. For example, one of the keys to the Vikings defense happens to be the two linebackers from UCLA--Barr and Kendricks.
As I pointed out in the failed 1st and 2nd round picks by us from the Big 10--or we can add in our recent two 1st round picks from the SEC in Lacy and Sherrod-- it has to do with the evaluator and not the conference.
Would not be surprised if #Packers fans never heard from Ted Thompson again.
— Jeff Blumb (@jeffblumb) January 2, 2018
Hungry5 posted:Would not be surprised if #Packers fans never heard from Ted Thompson again.
— Jeff Blumb (@jeffblumb) January 2, 2018
Could see that, but he could still be involved as a scout and just never talk to the press.
Jesus, TT died? When I said I wanted him gone I didn't mean....
I thought the phrase was Jesus ****! ?
PackFoo posted:
Mark Davis looks like what you would see in a PSA about the dangers of leaving your scarecrow too close to a radiator
Jeezus ****.q
slowmo posted:Packdog posted:
Ok I get what you mean, but you dont think Thompson and his scouts have given an unusual amount of focus on the PAC 12 - a second tier conference ? Or is this common criticism levied by many unwarranted ?
No. Disagree the PAC 12 is a second tier conference. For example, one of the keys to the Vikings defense happens to be the two linebackers from UCLA--Barr and Kendricks.
As I pointed out in the failed 1st and 2nd round picks by us from the Big 10--or we can add in our recent two 1st round picks from the SEC in Lacy and Sherrod-- it has to do with the evaluator and not the conference.
Tom Brady is from the Bay Area...his final 5 schools were Cal, USC, UCLA, Illinois and Michigan. Could have just as easily been a Pac-10 kid.
There are plenty of turds from the SEC, ACC and Big 10 annually who wash out.
****.q gerg
PackFoo posted:slowmo posted:PackFoo posted:Perhaps Tommy Boy is going to dangle the HC/GM role in front of Gruden to sweeten the pot...
Good point, because it has been reported Davis dangled ownership as an incentive but the league likely won't go with that. However, other than Belichick, successful coaches/GM haven't worked out in this era of football.
He studied at the Al Davis NFL GM School...a man who once thought Lane Kiffin was the best coach possible for his team, and Jamarcus Russell was going to re-invent the QB position.
He looks like a poorly executed wax statue of himself.
**** YOU I'M OUT HERE
Pakrz posted:There are stud football players in every conference in America. Our boy AR came from the PAC12. Pretty sure you're glad TT scouted that shiit up, eh?
No doubt and that obviously wasn't my point. Gotta scout all areas now days as I'm guessing you know. Just echoing the criticism that TT and scouts put too much value on thier PAC 12 assessments/misses.
antooo posted:PackFoo posted
He looks like a poorly executed wax statue of himself.
Mark Davis looks like a bug in Men in Black that killed Mark Davis and is now wearing his skin.
CAPackFan95 posted:PackFoo posted:
Mark Davis looks like what you would see in a PSA about the dangers of leaving your scarecrow too close to a radiator
White is not his color.
Mark Davis in that picture looks like something Goldie would identify as a photoshop
Keep thinking about this from @PeteDougherty, about how carefully #Packers' Mike McCarthy spoke last night. https://t.co/qDoWIHzvdH pic.twitter.com/ba3OHIzuKu
— Jeff Ash (@JeffAshGB) January 2, 2018
Maybe MM is waiting to see who new GM is... but the way it was worded earlier, MM fired Dom which would indicate MM was going to be around. Who knows what’s up at 1265?
Did Dorsey exit KC on good terms? Wasn't he relieved of his duties at a questionable point of the NFL year?
We're in a better spot today than we were 24 hours ago. That's what I know for sure.
The Packers org has been planning for this day. This isn't some gigantic "shock" like Rappaport opined. It will be very interesting to see how they come out of it. They've been grooming TT's replacement for some time now. The Packer front office "tree" is littered all over the NFL (Dorsey, Schneider, McKenzie)
What we know for certain
I'm hopeful we get a shiny new ST's coach too - Don't see why we wouldn't.
It's a great day to be a Packer fan
just hope the gm decision isn't going to take too long so we lose out on our pick of dc's or hc...if that's the choice.
Good point about front-office tree. For all the griping about TT, other teams are sure hiring our guys in front office positions.
We may get a lot of new shiny things including a HC. I agree this was designed when the contracts for TT and MM were extended and replacements search was going on ever since. It's a new day.
R-E-L-A-X
And where's DocBenni with the inside scope?
McMike is going into the last year of his contract... What do you do as a new GM? Sign him to an extension or let him be a lame-duck? If you, as the new GM, extend him and the Packers somehow underachieve (again...which history demonstrates might happen), then you're plugging your ears to drown out the drumbeats to fire MM and the Board member who are complaining about the buyout cost. If I was the new GM, I would be extremely cautious about keeping MM. I'm sticking to 50/50.
Reggie McKenzie, anyone?
GBP1 posted:McMike is going into the last year of his contract... What do you do as a new GM? Sign him to an extension or let him be a lame-duck? If you, as the new GM, extend him and the Packers somehow underachieve (again...which history demonstrates might happen), then you're plugging your ears to drown out the drumbeats to fire MM and the Board member who are complaining about the buyout cost. If I was the new GM, I would be extremely cautious about keeping MM. I'm sticking to 50/50.
Extend. Buyout cost is inconsequential to a team sitting on $275 million in the bank, and revenues of $500 million a year.
If you hire a new HC, then you have a completely new philosophy on offense & an All-Pro QB that potentially has to learn a new system.
There is nothing wrong with MM's offense. Hell we've even seen Hundley perform in it to open games at least.
If the GM gets a new HC, that's when you might lose your All-Timer at QB.
He might want to move along to say....Jacksonville.
Or Minnesota! Nahhhh.....a Green Bay QB would never want to play in purple
Hungry5 posted:Would not be surprised if #Packers fans never heard from Ted Thompson again.
— Jeff Blumb (@jeffblumb) January 2, 2018
You mean other than his induction into the Packer HOF?
He’s had a few good draft picks over a decade. But recently he’s just been living off the fact #12 fell into his lap years ago...because he’s whiffed pretty hard on the most recent drafts overall, and has done little to shore up the team via FA.
He was like a fat kid running a 40 yard dash. #12 was his 35 yard head start.
