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I think the first and foremost concern before any contract/playing/scheme issues is if Love can actually play at a high level (or at all) in the NFL.
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I hope Love doesn't see the field for two years other than lots and lots of mop up duty with 30 point 4th quarter leads. I'd hope the team could still get a lot of evaluation out of him at that point. More likely is that Rodgers gets dinged up more than once and we see snippets of Love sooner than later.
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Here's a nice column by Andrew Brandt that sums the situation up well: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04...mp;utm_medium=social
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Hub Arkush of Pro Football Weekly was on this morning and said it is well known throughout the NFL that Matt LaFleur is amongst the best, if not the best, in correcting and revising QB Mechanics. In fact, he apparently tweaked Matt Ryan's the year he won the MVP and Ryan also credits him with that. One of J-Lo's primary issue is just that. "Looping wind up" is one of his weaknesses, holding onto the ball too long, pocket awareness, etc. If in fact MLF is one of the best coaches at correcting...
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So what you're saying is that Rodgers goes to the Broncos and finally gets his second Super Bowl ring?
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I guess the 'out' situation, still costs 17m unless some team picks the whole thing up and we can make a trade. this could be handled by not making the pick...they either mis-calculated the pick, ie: should have NOT made the pick or mis-calculated making 12's money for a longer term. they also converted some $ to guaranteed to get cap savings, i can't remember if that affected the overall term or anything...the team screwed that up one way or the other. if they could have even 'sniffed'...
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I sure as hell hope he'd be going for his 3rd by then but I am also a realist and realize nothing was done to make this defense any faster, a key issue in 2019.
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Bad Bob strikes again. https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...f-aaron-rodgers-act/
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He's not even an active reporter with the ability to talk to "sources" he could previously pull out of his ass when he was employed with JsOnline. He knows no more of this then any of us do.
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That was just Florio with his usual click bait. He knows it will at least bring out the queen fans.
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They don't want him to "return to form" they want him to run their fucking offense the way they want it run. If he does that, they think they have a chance to win another championship. If he doesn't it's going to be some close-but-no-cigar seasons from here on out. If #12 is the pro he purports himself to be, he will work with the staff and honor their wishes and run the offense as they want it run. If he does that, they have a real shot at winning a title. Last year vs the Whiners (twice)...
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Marcedes Lewis. With Jennings, Nelson and Adams, there was never a good reason for TT to take a WR in the first. I'd say 2019 and 2020 were probably the only drafts since about 2006 that it would have made sense to draft a first round WR, when Jennings was drafted in the second. And if I remember right, Packer fans wanted Chad Jackson with that pick....
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We took Jennings in the 2nd round in 2006. We could have drafted Vernon Davis at TE, though, instead of AJ Hawk, in the 1st. We also took Abdul Hodge in the 3rd, doubling down at linebacker, which didn't work. The one pro-bowler we missed out on in the third round was Jason Hatcher, who had a decent career on the D-line. We also doubled down on O-line, taking Darren Colledge, and Jason Spitz.
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Packers traded out of the 1st and drafted Jordy early in the 2nd, 36th player drafted overall. He could have easily been a 1st but TT went for more picks. He was the 3rd WR taken in the draft. The other 2 were Donnie Avery and Devin Thomas. Who the hell are they?? It also means the Vikings passed him over too.
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Key passage that may be some insight into the front office and coaching staff’s point of view: “There is one parallel that is important here. In the later years of Brett’s tenure, I sensed a feeling around our personnel department that there was, well, too much emphasis on Brett and not enough on our team. I just noticed that when fans and media constantly marveled about Brett, they felt it was ignoring all the work put in by our team as a whole. Current Packers general manager Brian...
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If baffles me the amount of Packers fans who want to move on from #12. It truly does and I don't think many remember what the Packers QB situation was like before #4 and #12. Anyhow, it is only my personal opinion but I think that Rodgers never lost his form but he is running a different system that is way more balanced than MM's and he also doesn't have the weapons he needs right now. So my guess? The Packers do NOT trade or release AR anytime soon because of of the cap hit and I don't...
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There's always a good crop of QBs coming out. 3 first round QBs are about the norm. Sometimes 4 and occasional 5 but there are also 2 and sometimes 1 or none. The real question is if you can get one of the guys you like, especially if you are picking later int he round. I suspect that the Packers didn't think Love would be in range when they picked at 30. I saw some rankings of him in the teens overall. To see him at 26 they probably said, WTF, that's value and moved up and got him. Not much...
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An excellent opening post & thread. 1 thing I'd like to point out is if Rodgers gets hurt, we're going to see "J-Lo" a lot sooner than 2022.
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I haven't seen many, if any, fans saying they want to move on from him. Laying out what is gonna happen doesn't mean they want that to happen, it's just acknowledging that in the NFL, that's how things work.
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I think some fans do, but most don't. Chongo posted it above, the front office and the HC want Aaron to run the offense as designed, but its hard when you've been free-lancing at an elite level for so long. When AR was first playing, MM said: "He isn't averse to throwing boring passes" That was a shot at Favray and his improvisational style- the same style that made him exciting to watch AND drove Holmgren/Sherman nuts. Now we're seeing the same thing with AR, he's so used to running the...
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Definitely not many in this forum that is for sure because we are the smart Packers fans. I have noticed it quite a bit on social media which I know I should take with a grain of salt that's for damn sure. Satori, GREAT point about the fans haven't gotten used to the different style of offense the Packer use now vs. what we had with MM for all those years.
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We are going to need proof if you are going to be throwing around numbers like this
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All this and we haven't even had any teary eyed end of season press conferences.
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Interesting because Sam Farmer, LA Times NFL writer, saw him falling out of the first round.
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I've had the same opinion about Rodgers until just recently. Now that we don't have live sports to watch my DVR is recording all broadcast Packers games. And it seems that the 2009 and 2010 season have been pretty well represented. I think I've seen 4 or 5 in the past couple of weeks. One thing i will tell you is that Rodgers is not nearly the same player that he was. He doesn't drive the ball anywhere near what he used to do and isn't nearly as accurate. The dude was incredible. The throws...
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Gil Brandt had him at 21. I saw J'Lo anywhere from 17 to in the 50s.
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Not just you, Heck' , I've read and heard so much after the draft about ARod, the Packers, and future plans for them both. Right now, the consensus is one of them moves on in 2 years, and Love will be the man from then on. And it only took 3 days to figure all this out! Why, it's so easy....
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Favre also had an interview on Monday where he apparently re-wrote history and talked about how he helped and mentored Aaron as a rookie. Those concussions have likely caught up to Bert because those who listened to the interview and remember Favre's cold shoulder to young AR certainly remember it far differently. Likely Rodgers does as well.
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No question- he’s declining. The deep ball certainly is the most noticeable decline- he underthew a LOT of deep balls last year. And if you’re running a power run game to draw defenders into the box, you will get a lot of big vertical strike opportunities. But it maybe it’s his knee- his mechanics had to be all sorts of fucked up while he was playing on one leg- and as smart as he is, this possibility (even probability) can’t escape him as a source for his decline in play. There will be no...
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And #1 in WR separation. Bullshit. This team needs a legit #2.
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Both are true: Packers really needed to upgrade the WR group. AR leaves a lot of throws on the field in search of the big play. As far as Favre goes, can't believe AR is particularly happy with his diarrhea of the mouth. Probably should have just left it at surprised by the Love pick.
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It's times like these that you find out what a guy is really made of, if he's a pro's pro, and how he wants to be remembered. We'll see what comes out in Rodgers as time goes on... besides a lot of cliches!
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Favre with the revisionist history He just can't help himself. FFF
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Last years first round pick contributed next to nothing, now we are looking at this years first round pick contributing next to nothing on teams with superbowl aspirations. Frustration isn't unwarranted