He might have been more of a locker room problem than reported.
Word now is the trade was Randall for Kizer.
michiganjoe posted:No Joe Thomas....
Hearing expectation is #Packers will receive a late-round draft pick for cornerback Damarious Randall, who they traded Friday to the Cleveland Browns. So Gutekunst's first major transaction as GM is to force a makeover at CB.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) March 9, 2018
A late round draft pick? WTF? He might've been the one guy who showed up last year and he 's not a complete scrub. Christ, he must've really ****ed up off the field.
michiganjoe posted:Word now is the trade was Randall for Kizer.
I guess that's reasonable then. Not sure if Kizer is another Clipboard Dougie but he sure the **** has more potential than PocketStar Runner.
Draft notes....... http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/...one-kizer?id=2557983
Does Kizer chew gum?
Swapping picks?
#Packers received QB DeShon Kizer and swapped draft picks with #Browns in deal for Randall, source said.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) March 9, 2018
They traded Damarious for QB DeShone Kizer! See ya later, Hundley?
Maybe Gute is going to sign Sherman to fill the CB void.
So the packers traded a 1st round CB for a 2nd round QB? A player that will never see the field unless disaster has struck once again?
That’s about as good of value as wasting a 5th round pick on Brett Hundley.
”The QB room is exactly where it needs to be.”
I believe there were rumors that TT (and I would assume others in the org) were high on Kizer during the draft last year.
He's forced his own hand. Must have a plan or it's the first sign of smoke.
I like the move. If the rumors on twitter are accurate that we swap picks with the Browns later in the draft as well, even better.
PackerPatrick posted:Sorry, Sherman is not even close to Woodson
Well, you maybe COULD say that some day but how was Woodson viewed as a player when he signed with the Pack? Was he in a similar situation as Sherman is today? Maybe perceived as washed-up? Does Sherman have a final act in him like Woody did?
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:So the packers traded a 1st round CB for a 2nd round QB?
Sometimes you just need to cut your losses and move on. Similar to Christian Ponder.
Browns traded QB Deshone Kizer to Packers for CB Damarious Randall, per source. In addition; the teams’ swapped picks in the 4th and 5th round.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 9, 2018
Henry posted:michiganjoe posted:No Joe Thomas....
Hearing expectation is #Packers will receive a late-round draft pick for cornerback Damarious Randall, who they traded Friday to the Cleveland Browns. So Gutekunst's first major transaction as GM is to force a makeover at CB.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) March 9, 2018A late round draft pick? WTF? He might've been the one guy who showed up last year and he 's not a complete scrub. Christ, he must've really ****ed up off the field.
Got caught with his dick in a pumpkin is my guess. Not Packer People.
chickenboy posted:I believe there were rumors that TT (and I would assume others in the org) were high on Kizer during the draft last year.
That's what I read, too.
Lots of picks between the two teams in the 4th and 5th rounds. I'm hoping GB was able to move to the #1 pick in each round.
chickenboy :Sometimes you just need to cut your losses and move on. Similar to Christian Ponder.
I agree. But this move seems senseless to me. You just traded a 1st round, defensive, starter for a player you hope never sees the field. Taking away from an already week defense and adding virtually nothing of value.
If Rodgers goes down, Kizer isn’t leading them anywhere.
The packers reluctance to focus on an absolutely glaring deficiency is baffling.
Let's not mistake Randall for Deion Sanders. Dude was ok... with a crap attitude. Gute has a plan.
Assuming Sherman heals enough to prepare for this season, I think he can handle the 'average' receivers well enough. He will get exposed by the more elite receivers.
With right supporting cast (strong pass rush, nickel/dime DBs) he may play better than I would expect him to, but that limits his choices severely.
CAPackFan95 posted:michiganjoe posted:Richard Sherman has been released.
He'll end up on Pats. Have a super year, they'll win the SB. He'll move on and fall off a cliff.
Apparently, visiting Keil in Utah.
Pakrz posted:Lots of picks between the two teams in the 4th and 5th rounds. I'm hoping GB was able to move to the #1 pick in each round.
The number one pick in round 4 is huge. Allows teams to analyze the remaining players overnight. There is often a lot of interest to trade into that spot.
This would be a good time for that video from mid season where Randall avoided injury by running away from the receiver.
Moving up picks is a nice bonus.
Not disappointed to lose Randall, glad he picked it up at the end of the season so this move could be made
michiganjoe posted:Source: The #Packers have traded for QB DeShone Kizer. From the #Browns to Green Bay.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 9, 2018Sending a message to Hundley...
That ain't the way to do it.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Does Kizer chew gum?
Tobacco.
Does it say we get their 4th for our 5th? Are you sure it’s not the other way around
excalibur posted:El-Ka-Bong posted:Does Kizer chew gum?
Tobacco.
Tomacco.
If you want to break it down to the very basics, the #Packers traded a starting CB for a backup QB, $824,000 of cap space and 13 draft slots in both the fourth and fifth round.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 10, 2018
There is a lot to like here. I am all in on cutting bait with Hunds, Kizer showed more promise and was a lot more green, plus cash and move up picks. Is anyone really that broken hearted to lose Randall? I can see him being fine without the Wiz there to scheme it up, but I would still like the potential in this move.
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:chickenboy :Sometimes you just need to cut your losses and move on. Similar to Christian Ponder.I agree. But this move seems senseless to me. You just traded a 1st round, defensive, starter for a player you hope never sees the field. Taking away from an already week defense and adding virtually nothing of value.
If Rodgers goes down, Kizer isn’t leading them anywhere.
The packers reluctance to focus on an absolutely glaring deficiency is baffling.
Yeah, drafting King and Jones last year was baffling. ****ing idiot.
The point is you have a guy with the potential to be a starter who at minimum can develop under Rodgers. Because as we all know, QB is the least important position on the team so why would you have a competent backup?
Kizer was one of the few QBs Hundley was able to beat this year.
Of course, it was more Kizer blowing it than Hundley winning.
emak posted:This would be a good time for that video from mid season where Randall avoided injury by running away from the receiver.
Safety first
Henry posted:Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:chickenboy :Sometimes you just need to cut your losses and move on. Similar to Christian Ponder.I agree. But this move seems senseless to me. You just traded a 1st round, defensive, starter for a player you hope never sees the field. Taking away from an already week defense and adding virtually nothing of value.
If Rodgers goes down, Kizer isn’t leading them anywhere.
The packers reluctance to focus on an absolutely glaring deficiency is baffling.
Yeah, drafting King and Jones last year was baffling. ****ing idiot.
The point is you have a guy with the potential to be a starter who at minimum can develop under Rodgers. Because as we all know, QB is the least important position on the team so why would you have a competent backup?
Henry, what the ****? When the monkey insists on whacking off at the zoo, ignore it. It just wants attention.
Apparently Wolf and Zo like Randall more than Gute does.