NFL guys:
Henry: Honestly, I don't even care anymore.
He's on the team, the damage is done, I'm not worried about some lost potential that is going to push the team over the top because that ship has sailed. I'm waiting for what Gunce does in the draft now.
CONS: Needs to improve his field vision and awareness. Often fails to recognize or completely disregards coverage rotations and it doesn’t have a great enough impact on his decision making. He throws some careless, YOLO balls that need to be reduced. While there is a lot to like about his willingness to be patient and stay in the pocket, his internal clock is often tardy. Can be aggressive vertically to fault. Has to find more consistency with timing and progressions. Has general accuracy with plenty of misfires.
BEST TRAIT - Physical Gifts
WORST TRAIT - Decision Making
Gunt has a penchant to draft numbers, not football players.
From the comments on the clip above: His release has gotten IMPRESSIVELY better, which I love to see. When Rodgers leaves, I’m always afraid that passing will look slower, as it does across the league for me. (Weird fear I know) But it doesn’t look like that’ll be the case with Love
@Boris posted:“Jordan Love is putting in work while Aaron Rodgers is hosting a game show “ — future headline https://t.co/9MAAgkNKUd
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 6, 2021
He must realize that Rodgers spent 2 whole days taping those shows way back in Feb. What a putz.
Gunce!
How about Mark Derphy?
Or to quote the immortal Jim Tomasula “I’m not going to get into the whole name game thing”
Ludacrist!
I'm putting that in the list.
So we agree that Gary is the player most likely to regress next year
Ahem, this is the Jordan Love thread.
I'm pretty sure Montravious Adams just needs a couple more years to develop.
Good job Douggie. Keep those eyes rolling.
.Good job Barney Google.
A thoughtful analysis.
Disagree. It's a grab ass, off-season "shit, what homerisms can I write today" fest. I really enjoyed the "thought experiment". Christ.
Music for Henry:
Music for Goldie:
In high school my official stance was "disco sucks" but I loved that Summer song.
The only lines worth discussing: "Moving on from Rodgers too soon would probably be sacrificing 3-4 more really good seasons. Moving on from Love too soon could mean sacrificing 10-15 good years."
Of course, the key words in those sentences being "would" and "could." A person may be able to argue that it should be "could" in both sentences.
Green Bay picking Jordan Love was the worst pick of the first round last year. It remains the worst pick a year later. And a year from now, it will continue to be the worst pick.
— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) April 22, 2021
I got this Aaron.... @jjones9 We love digging up old bad tweets & when until I send it to OldTakesExposed.@RemindMe_OfThis 1 year
— Boris at Timesfour (@x4_Packers) April 24, 2021
If Jordan Love ends up playing well at any point in his career, 8% of all the tweets on the Twitter servers will be deleted like a Thanos finger snap.
— Packers FTW (@PackersForTheWn) April 23, 2021
@Boris posted:Green Bay picking Jordan Love was the worst pick of the first round last year. It remains the worst pick a year later. And a year from now, it will continue to be the worst pick.
— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) April 22, 2021
And no matter what, this dude will still be really dumb whomever the fuck he is.
jjones9 is Henry's Twitter handle?
@Boris posted:Green Bay picking Jordan Love was the worst pick of the first round last year. It remains the worst pick a year later. And a year from now, it will continue to be the worst pick.
— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) April 22, 2021
Whatever you think of Jordan Love, this guy clearly didn't do any homework.
The Titans first-round pick (29th overall) played 4 snaps, got arrested for DWI, was traded to Miami for a conditional 7th round pick, and was eventually released by Miami and is out of football.
Jordan Love's got this guy beat if he does nothing else but effectively run the scout team for the next 3 years.
I suspect he has spent a life time avoiding homework.
2nd worst ?
I feel better
Calling any player the "worst" selection after 1 year of COVID/No fans football is at a minimum extremely short-sighted & at a maximum an F'ing IDOT.
The instant gratification crew never ceases to amaze me.
@Boris posted:Calling any player the "worst" selection after 1 year of COVID/No fans football is at a minimum extremely short-sighted & at a maximum an F'ing IDOT.
The instant gratification crew never ceases to amaze me.
Very true Boris. The Love pick may have been the most baffling and worst decision of all of last years round 1 picks, but we won't really know what we have for a while yet in terms of how good of a player he might be. I still hate the pick. Not because it was Jordan Love but because we had major needs and were just coming off a strong season and Gute pissed away a 4th rounder as well.
@Boris posted:I got this Aaron.... @jjones9 We love digging up old bad tweets & when until I send it to OldTakesExposed.@RemindMe_OfThis 1 year
— Boris at Timesfour (@x4_Packers) April 24, 2021If Jordan Love ends up playing well at any point in his career, 8% of all the tweets on the Twitter servers will be deleted like a Thanos finger snap.
— Packers FTW (@PackersForTheWn) April 23, 2021
If Jordan Love flops, Twitter will shut down.
I'm sure Love will get the Carl Bradford treatment, "He just needs another 6 years to develop!".
No matter how Love turns out, he won't be in the top 10 worst first round picks in Packers history. Only reason he's going to get this scrutinized is because he's a QB.
Just for reference, here are the last 10 years of #26 picks. I count 3 hits, 6 complete busts (including our own Datone Jones), and Love.
Love has as much potential to be a top ten bust as he does a top ten QB.
I'd agree with that. It was definitely a "potential" pick based on traits and will depend heavily on how he takes to coaching.
Just curious, but where do you think Love ranks compared to the top 5 QBs this year? All are expected to go top 10, at worst top 15. QBs are flying up draft boards and I don't see it stopping any time soon. So even if you have Love as the #6 QB in this class, he probably goes top 15.
Something else to consider about Love - is he any more of less of boom or bust than Lance? They seem like pretty similar prospects so if Lance is going top 10, is Love at #26 that bad? Maybe the draft experts can help - what makes Lance such a better prospect than Love?
Love has the athletic ability that surpasses all of them. Just like every QB last year. I have zero doubts about any of his physical traits. Some of the passes he's made were phenomenal.
For me, it's only one major thing that bothers me, his decision making. Otherwise, the guy is off the charts. Maybe it's something he can hone but there's just something about watching his play that makes me think his decision making has a low ceiling. He will get better I'm sure but I don't think he'll become any better than a slightly above average QB.
Nothing wrong with that, he just has to be in the right system. Mayo's system isn't a bad fit but Love will needs a top ten defense and a solid run game all the time. I have zero confidence he can put the team on his back and win.
It would've been "palatable" if they didn't move up for Love. I know a 4th isn't huge but considering Gunt did squat to fill holes in the defense is what chaps my ass. You only have so many years of Rodgers left. Love was not a Rodgers like acquisition. I'm just not a fan of underwear champions with the term "raw/developmental" in the 1st round QB.
Love is 3rd QB on this years board. JMHO
@CUPackFan posted:Something else to consider about Love - is he any more of less of boom or bust than Lance? They seem like pretty similar prospects so if Lance is going top 10, is Love at #26 that bad? Maybe the draft experts can help - what makes Lance such a better prospect than Love?
That's a lot of hair splitting. I don't care if it's Lance or Love or Larry, you don't move up in the first round to draft a project QB. Especially when you're trying to win a Super Bowl now. Unless you aren't that concerned about Super Bowls.
@CUPackFan posted:No matter how Love turns out, he won't be in the top 10 worst first round picks in Packers history. Only reason he's going to get this scrutinized is because he's a QB.
Just for reference, here are the last 10 years of #26 picks. I count 3 hits, 6 complete busts (including our own Datone Jones), and Love.
If he's even an average NFL back-up QB, he'll be better than Jerry Tagge and Rich Campbell who were both drafted much higher in the first round (11th and 6th overall, respectively).
Then you have Tony Mandarich, Ahmad Carroll, Derrek Sherrod, Jamal Reynolds, Datone Jones, Damarious Randall, and Antuan Edwards. That's 9 busts in the last 50 years of Packers first rounders.
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