I stand corrected....
X4 never forgets.
@Henry posted:That's one way to make an exit.
Pretty sure I wasn't the one take potshots but then it's a good thing I'm not a giant pussy like some of you hothouse flowers.
You do realize that makes me even more tenacious.
Pussy makes you more tenacious? Poor BK.
California is one of seven states that will lose a seat in Congress as a result of the latest U.S. Census count. ... California trailed that rate with its population increasing at a 6.1% pace. Though California gained population, it's losing a seat in the House of Representatives because other states grew at a faster rate.
Citizens leaving and illegals migrating = Population growth.
Enjoy!
Lol
I guess people arenât leaving CA in droves.
So explain to me how in 4Q 2020 there were 267K departures compared to 128K that entered the state? Should we blame uncle Covid for that?
Or simply state the obvious - a lot of people are tired of getting fleeced by high tax rates, more than necessary bureaucracy and red tape, and the over the top politics and social commentary?
If you spend any time in the Pacific NW or the SW like Nevada and Arizona and New Mexico you see full well the Calis relocating there en masse. A big reason is cost of living is a lot more reasonable, although, Iâm sure people in Portland and Seattle would suggest otherwise.
@Tschmack posted:Lol
I guess people arenât leaving CA in droves.
So explain to me how in 4Q 2020 there were 267K departures compared to 128K that entered the state? Should we blame uncle Covid for that?
Or simply state the obvious - a lot of people are tired of getting fleeced by high tax rates, more than necessary bureaucracy and red tape, and the over the top politics and social commentary?
If you spend any time in the Pacific NW or the SW like Nevada and Arizona and New Mexico you see full well the Calis relocating there en masse. A big reason is cost of living is a lot more reasonable, although, Iâm sure people in Portland and Seattle would prefer otherwise.
Whatever it is you are researching and posting while working on the governmentâs (i.e. California taxpayers) dime, I think we can all agree you should stay in California, Y.A.
Dagger!
For fuck sakes everyone, get this thread back on topic to Jordan Love being the worst pick in Packer history.
Leave politics and California bullshit OUT of this discussion.
@packerboi posted:For fuck sakes everyone, get this thread back on topic to Jordan Love being the worst pick in Packer history.
Leave politics and California bullshit OUT of this discussion.
Jordan Love moved from California. Just saynâ. ð
@packerboi posted:For fuck sakes everyone, get this thread back on topic to Jordan Love being the worst pick in Packer history.
Leave politics and California bullshit OUT of this discussion.
The politics is far more pleasant than the bashing of our next great QB.
@packerboi posted:For fuck sakes everyone
no apostrophe ?
@Blair Kiel posted:Jordan Love moved from California. Just saynâ. ð
So did his mentor.
Wanted to respond but didnt no how to spell proffeshunal.
@antooo posted:didnt no how to spell proffeshunal.
purfuct.
Any post after mine not talking about Jordan Love will be deleted.
#Broncos Named 'Most Likely Trade Destination' for #Packers QB Jordan Love
â Zack Kelberman (@KelbermanNFL) April 26, 2021
READ: https://t.co/GeDAv3w2Dx pic.twitter.com/GvCcaMnFrL
Love Stinks.
Love them some Bridgewater.
With so many teams void, and looking for a good young QBs, GB is holding all the cards. If the Broncos want Love, its going to cost them. "The Price Of Love" - I want that number 9 overall pick. That opens up :
3 tackles, Sewell, Slater, Darrisaw
3 corners, Surtain, Horn, Farley
or move back a pinch and nab
Penn St LB, M. Parsons
Bridgewater to Broncos, so.....
@Boris posted:Any post after mine not talking about Jordan Love will be deleted.
Nice weather we are having.
Lovely weather.
eVErYbODy was in favor of it when we drafted Rodgers.
Iâll never forget a Lambeau Field Draft party going on below us with 1,000 people. The thunderous boos from there when we picked Aaron Rodgers literally shook our souls. And we got an F from most media grades. And Brett was mad. And the coaches are mad. But we trusted the Board.
â Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 29, 2021
#Packers QB Jordan Love: âI know when I get the opportunity out on the field my play will speak for itself.â pic.twitter.com/C5l7xFkVEp
â Matt Hietpas (@MattyHip) April 29, 2021
Regardless of how the Love pick pans out, he'll never be as bad a blunder as the Bears made with Mitch Trubisky.
Not even close. The Nub pick is more of an irritant. Tarlbersky was a laughable waste of resources.
@Goalline posted:eVErYbODy was in favor of it when we drafted Rodgers.
Iâll never forget a Lambeau Field Draft party going on below us with 1,000 people. The thunderous boos from there when we picked Aaron Rodgers literally shook our souls. And we got an F from most media grades. And Brett was mad. And the coaches are mad. But we trusted the Board.
â Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 29, 2021
TT thought Rodgers was the best player of the draft. He didn't move up to get him. He also waited until the last second to make the pick just to see if any crazy ass calls came in. They weren't going to pass on Rodgers unless the Packers got some off the charts offer for him. That's a savvy GM.
That's a GM who couldn't fully recognize the talent he was being given. You telling me if he knew what Rodgers would become he wouldn't have traded up to number 1? What you posted there is not actually complimentary to TT.
If Love is the new AAron Rodgers in 3 years are you going to be screeching about how you wish we'd drafted some shitty D tackle instead? Who was last year's Erasmus James?
3 years? You mean 5 months? 
@Goalline posted:That's a GM who couldn't fully recognize the talent he was being given. You telling me if he knew what Rodgers would become he wouldn't have traded up to number 1? What you posted there is not actually complimentary to TT.
If Love is the new AAron Rodgers in 3 years are you going to be screeching about how you wish we'd drafted some shitty D tackle instead? Who was last year's Erasmus James?
Then go read it for yourself. I posted the link a couple pages back.
And if Love takes a giant shit you'll be telling me how excellent the dopes in the FO were for moving up to pick a project QB on the way to alienating their HOF QB?
Well the past 24 hours have made me start to wonder if the Jordan Love timeline will be accelerated and that sucks that the Pack/Rodgers situation may have forced this but if it happens then I will just have to learn to love Love.
One positive and one negative about Love. The positive, Utah State was absolutely horrible after Love left school early for the draft. That pretty much shows that his mediocre performance in 2019 wasn't all on him as he did lead them to a 7-5 record and they only won 1 game the next year without him and that win was over a school that didn't win a game.
The negative.... the Pack didn't think highly enough of him to put him as #2 over Tim Boyle in 2020. That can be at least partly explained by no pre-season action as a young 21 year old kid, but you just wish that he had shown enough in practice that he could have clearly beaten out Boyle. It's not the end of the world as the no pre-season, no offseason minicamps, was part of the reason for that, but it is at least a little bit of a red flag.
@Henry posted:Then go read it for yourself. I posted the link a couple pages back.
And if Love takes a giant shit you'll be telling me how excellent the dopes in the FO were for moving up to pick a project QB on the way to alienating their HOF QB?
Heâs invincible!ð
If this whole turnover to Love happens this year this kid better have the ability to ignore everything around him. As bad as things were for Rodgers when he took over for Favre, it's going to be multiple times worse having a black QB take over for a white demi-god in a city that isn't exactly progressive.
I hope he doesn't own a dog. Or if he does, I hope it's a vicious one.
If Love has to start this year it's going to be a pretty steep learning curve and I mean for any rookie. Plague year training camp with shit for snaps. That oline would be 10 times more important and they should be drafting every olineman and blocking TE they can get their hands on.
There is no reason for Love to have to start in 2021. If AR pouts on the sideline and refuses to play, the Packers can sign someone like Joe Flacco or another vet and admit to an upcoming shit season and just suck it up and look forward to a top 5 pick in 2022.
If he isn't ready, he isn't ready.
They barely have cap room to sign the rookie class without Rodgers restructure.
If they're going to suck you might as well get Love experience.
Something else to consider - should the Packers admit the mistake and trade Love for a pick tonight? They could then rework Rodgers contract to give him more clarity on where he stands these next three years, likely via more salary guarantees in 2022 and 2023. No idea if this placates Rodgers or if it's a smart move, but curious if it's on the table.
A Love trade could happen and if it does they best hope he does not turn out to be a multiple title, Hall of Famer and they are âstuckâ with an aging somewhat disgruntled short timer.
I don't think so. I'd rather ride AR through his contract (or a new contract for the same length that he likes) and then let the kid take over. If Rodgers can't win a SB with this group in the next 3 years then chances are he's not going to and will move on. We will need a QB anyway and hey we have one who will be 24 years old by then...like an old rookie with 4 years under his belt.