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@scoop posted:

 

Ouch. I though he gave them a good run for a fourth-round pick.

I agree. It's like criticizing Brad Jones (7th round pick), Geronimo Allison (UDFA), or many of the other late round picks or UDFAs. They had limitations that made them fall in the draft. If they didn't, they'd have been high draft picks. 

We've talked about it ad nauseum, but the Packers having two guys that were UDFAs and playing at close to Pro Bowl levels during the Super Bowl run 10 years ago was one of the main reasons they won it all. Normally, to find CBs that good (Shields and Tramon) you have to draft them in the first or second round.  I think TT thought he'd continue to find a few guys like that and constructed his team accordingly. That didn't work out. 

@Henry posted:

But he's an intriguing candidate for slot CB if the Packers were building an interstate.

Josh Jackson's legend was built in large part off of consecutive Big 10 games in 2017.  In the first of those games, he had 3 interceptions against JT Barrent of Ohio State. In the second, he had two pick 6s against Alex Hornibrook of Wisconsin. Iowa played zone and Hornibrook just drew some ducks towards him. That was the 13-1 team that only lost in the Big 10 title game against OSU despite Hornibrook throwing 15 picks that year. 

Other than that, he had 3 other picks his entire college career (and two were against the early season cannon fodder teams (North Texas and Wyoming). 

In other words, Alex Hornibook made Josh Jackson a lot of money. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg6YmZ_ttfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvsKUDD9dE

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I agree. It's like criticizing Brad Jones (7th round pick), Geronimo Allison (UDFA), or many of the other late round picks or UDFAs. They had limitations that made them fall in the draft. If they didn't, they'd have been high draft picks. 

The criticism doesn't come from the fact they were UDFA or low round picks, it comes from the fact that they weren't very good ...and played a lot.......and it took too long to find someone better. 

Martinez would be fine if he had other ILB talent around him - problem was he was our best ILB . That will expose your defense at critical moments. 

@Packdog posted:

The criticism doesn't come from the fact they were UDFA or low round picks, it comes from the fact that they weren't very good ...and played a lot.......and it took too long to find someone better. 

Martinez would be fine if he had other ILB talent around him - problem was he was our best ILB . That will expose your defense at critical moments. 

I think we agree. It's not their fault they were forced into roles they weren't good enough for because of front office failures. 

Now, whether fans buy this or not is one thing. But considering the Packers didn't draft a WR in what was arguably the deepest draft at WR in over a decade likely says they understand MVS' issues were largely physical:

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