2020 Packers Training Camp Master Thread

Brian Gutekunst said #Packers WR EQ St. Brown, who is back from spending 2019 on IR, has no restrictions: "We're really bullish on him. I think he's got a bright future ahead of him. I'm glad he's healthy. I'm glad he's back, and expect him to make an impact this year."

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 10, 2020

Somebody has to play WR opposite Adams

I'd assume Lazard is the presumed #2, but hell anything's possible. And maybe this is my green n' gold glasses I'm wearing, (I will be ordering a pair of Alexander's soon) but I am not giving up hope on MVS either. I think a lot of his issues were mental. He's got the size, speed and catch radius to be a good WR. 

He just has to put it all together:

I know the feeling. I have this funky hope MVS had an Adams-esque sophomore slump and will break out when they play again.

I thought MVS was great at the start of last season till he got injured

I like MVS but he’s suffering a bit from Corey Bradford syndrome.  Will make some big plays but doesn’t strike me as tough or consistent enough despite having very good speed.  

I hope like hell it was just the injury that impacted his play.  If he can become a legit downfield threat then it opens everything else up underneath. 

Too early to give up on MVS given his physical talent, but his time is getting short. Probably needs to take a step this year to hang around.

No worries - the Packers are in great shape for two reasons:

1) The learning curve with AR is 3-4 years long.  Only one current WR on the roster qualifies - and his last name is Adams.  

2) According to Packerwire, the Packers have claimed a WR off waivers.  

4.58 at the combine...wow

Oof.  These guys are the scrubbiest of the scrubs.

@Chongo posted:

4.58 at the combine...wow

Another big, slow WR. Gutey certainly has his type. 

I also think, right or wrong, the Packers are putting a lot of eggs into the Sternberger basket. I just hope they are right. He looked good late in the season. But because he missed so much of his rookie year, he’s not really a true “year 2” player. 

@packerboi posted:

Another big, slow WR. Gutey certainly has his type. 

Camp fodder. He'll play the role of Funcheese.

Sounds like a little better version of Allison. Might be good for some production given the lack of depth.

Don't worry....he has deceptive speed I'm sure. 

@Boris posted:

Don't worry....he has deceptive speed I'm sure. 

So deceptive it is probably invisible.  

Jerry Rice never ran faster than a 4.58...so suck on that!

@packerboi posted:

I also think, right or wrong, the Packers are putting a lot of eggs into the Sternberger basket. I just hope they are right. He looked good late in the season. But because he missed so much of his rookie year, he’s not really a true “year 2” player. 

A lot of 1 WR sets with 3 HBs. 

A football player named Travis?
What can go wrong?

Seriously, in years past, we might guess what role he may compete for, what his chances may be, his bubble, pad level, and BFI.
Now that MLF is molding the offense to his vision, who the heck knows? He may value guys who can be physical more than guys who can catch.

In any case, it's hard to see him being much more than camp fodder. Highly unlikely MVS, EQ, or Lizard being released, I don't think he has the speed to return KO or punts, so I don't where he may fit in.

Travis Williams was kind of good.

@H5 posted:

Travis Williams was kind of good.

The Roadrunner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjVPs5zqaaU

I didn't realize MVS had a nagging injury last year. Having a nagging injury and not being able to hit top gear can have an effect on confidence and also cuts out his niche (deep threat). Picture is becoming clearer as to why his role was mostly phased out. Adams went through the same thing and a lot of people dogged him as a wasted roster spot after the season, some people even thought he would be cut in TC, so hopefully we see MVS have a similar bounce back. I'm actually not as down on the WR position as I was pre-draft. I think if things fall into place with a healthy Lazard, Stern, MVS, and EQ then we have a VERY talented group that just needs to put it all together and show consistency. Factor in what Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams add in the pass game and our passing game could be shockingly good...maybe not 2011 Packers good, but surprisingly good compared to expectations. Add in some possible surprise talents like Begelton and this new kid from Seattle, maybe we didn't actually need to add a WR. We'll see.

A football player named Travis?
What can go wrong?

Fulgham don't surf.

There is no indication at Packers.com GB signed Fulgham.  No announcement or addition to the team roster.  So did they really sign him?  Or is all this pending a physical or something else which hasn't happened yet?  

Claimed him on waivers. May be waiting to update pending physical yeah. 

I severely overrated the wr group a year ago. I'd like to believe Lazard will be the 2nd big playmaker behind Adams, but the jury's still out. They didn't grab a guy in the draft, their one fa splash was a guy who opted out. Is it possible they're trying to create as many weapons inside the hashmarks specifically to take pressure off the wr group? The draft and 2nd year guys- Sternberger, Deguara, Dillon might be MLF's way of loading the field with playmakers so the warts at wr aren't such a detriment. Or he decided to try his hand at some power football on the interior field. As much as I'd like to see them succeed with the guys they have, that #2 wideout could go a long way in helping the entire offense.

Considering the contracts for Kelce and Kittle along with Mayo's background I'd say that's a good call.  I would guess they are focusing on Degoro to be a true Hback/TE short yardage guy with Sternberger being more downfield all while trying to keep defenses in the box against the run.  

It'll be interesting to see how the whole offense looks peeling off the last vestiges of McVince and an infusion of Mayo like players.  I could really see Rodgers destroying some defenses if there is so much to account for around the LOS in this offense.

I think the Packers should allow fans into the Zoom meetings since we can't go to training camp.

@Henry posted:

Considering the contracts for Kelce and Kittle along with Mayo's background I'd say that's a good call.  I would guess they are focusing on Degoro to be a true Hback/TE short yardage guy with Sternberger being more downfield all while trying to keep defenses in the box against the run.  

It'll be interesting to see how the whole offense looks peeling off the last vestiges of McVince and an infusion of Mayo like players.  I could really see Rodgers destroying some defenses if there is so much to account for around the LOS in this offense.

I think the Packers should allow fans into the Zoom meetings since we can't go to training camp.

I think Deguara and Dillon in particular could be MLF's way to keep defenses on their heels and overthinking. Maybe in a way trying to replicate what the Niners did in both meetings but especially in the playoff game. SF ran it and ran it down our throats, and while it looked straight forward in its approach, the GB defense was fooled every single time because the plays unraveled and sprung holes in nearly every part of the defense. With both rbs feasting. So while they had to account for a guy like Kittle, and Sanders, they were gashed and gashed in the process.

Hopefully Dillon will come in and be that guy you can't ignore when AJ gets a breather. And Deguara reminds me of the positives of DickRod while being more athletic(h-back) and a vg short/intermediate weapon who can move the chains. They may not be stars, but each position might warrant attention to the point where Adams and whoever see single coverage on a regular basis. Throw in Jones on occasion as a change up in the passing game(which I know you hate) and Sternberger and it could be a whole lot to throw at a defense and make them guess. 

I like Jones in the passing game when it’s a solid change up.  The problem I had was they seemed to be relying on Jones in the pass game opposite of Adams.  It was nothing against Jones at all rather I was concerned defenses would sniff it out pretty fast considering the small play repertoire at that point. 

@Henry posted:

 

I think the Packers should allow fans into the Zoom meetings since we can't go to training camp.

I’d be down with this, especially considering pants are required of those fans in attendance for TC.

Pants are for prudes.

I'm a skorts kinda guy!

First look at right side of #Packers starting O line: RT Billy Turner, RG Lane Taylor. They join C Corey Linsley, LG Elgton Jenkins, LT David Bakhtiari.

After a couple reps, Rick Wagner in at RT, Turner slides down to RG.

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 15, 2020

One thing you don’t need pads to observe: A.J. Dillon (28) is a big dude. pic.twitter.com/8p6SbsdMwc

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 15, 2020

Right? And, let me tell you, Jamaal Williams is not small. https://t.co/5YkSyIJZYl

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 15, 2020

Would love to see MVS get going:

First deep ball of camp, Marquez Valdes-Scantling beats Josh Jackson down the middle of the field, Tim Boyle’s pass falls perfectly in his hands... and MVS makes the catch. A nice start for a WR who was searching last year.

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 15, 2020

has anyone got covid yet? Put em in a bubble for the next six months....

@Floridarob posted:

has anyone got covid yet? Put em in a bubble for the next six months....

Crosby was released from quarantine today. That doesn't necessarily mean he had it, he just met the criteria to need to be isolated. Regardless, nice to see him out there. 

Didn’t take Aaron Rodgers long to have his first “wow” throw of camp. He threads a pass past CB Josh Jackson, who WR Allen Lazard beat on a post for a TD in red zone.

— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 15, 2020