Fluff is fluff and must be taken as such.
However, it's fun (to me, anyway) to hear about prospects that are doing well and veteran players that have improved their game.
I haven't had the same enthusiasm this year because everything has been so restricted, and the usual pre-season didn't happen,but have enjoyed most news coming from camp.
Packers rookie ILB Kamal Martin, who was in the mix to start Week 1, is undergoing knee surgery and is expected to miss several weeks, sources told ESPN. It's not season ending, but it's a setback. https://t.co/QBZ4lXmmTc
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2020
Oren Burks is the luckiest MF to ever wear the green and gold.
unreal, like we are destined for mediocrity at the ilb spot.
@Chongo posted:Packers rookie ILB Kamal Martin, who was in the mix to start Week 1, is undergoing knee surgery and is expected to miss several weeks, sources told ESPN. It's not season ending, but it's a setback. https://t.co/QBZ4lXmmTc
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2020Oren Burks is the luckiest MF to ever wear the green and gold.
The reason he slipped in the draft was a knee injury that needed surgery last year. He was probably flagged by some team's medical staff for this reason as a risky pick. Certainly worth a chance as a 5th round pick, but if they didn't have a better backup plan that's an issue.
Packers haven't had a plan B for LB in quite some time.
@Chongo posted:Packers haven't had a plan B for LB in quite some time.
I agree. When's the last time they had a difference-maker at ILB (other than arguably when they lined CM3 up there for some snaps when they ran out of guys)? The early days of Nick Barnett or a few flashed from Desmond Bishop? Even the Holmgren teams just sort of got by at ILB.
The starting LB opposite Kirksey may not be on the roster right now. Gute needs to do some searching.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:but if they didn't have a better backup plan that's an issue.
Its a tough break, but they have 6 candidates for (1) spot which is pretty decent back- up plan in a league with limited rosters and limited cap space. Couple of draft picks + couple of UDFAs, with mix of vets and rookies competing is about all you can ask for, especially for a non-premium position like ILB2.
Results matter, but the plan isn't suspect imo.
Raven Greene
Oren Burks
Kamal Martin
Ty Summers
Krys Barnes
Curtis Bolton
Not to be a downer but 4 of those guys have had significantly poor injury history in their time with Le Packers.
Did Martin injure the same knee from last year? Hope it's just bad luck and not a sign of something that's always going to be a concern.
Barnes is from my high school (same school as Jordan Love) and despite his limitations (speed mostly) he was very productive for UCLA. Hope he makes it.
ESPN reported Martinâs surgery this week was on his left knee, not the right knee that needed surgery after last season.
MLF said today at his presser in speaking with Gute, he understands there are players that will be on his 53 who currently are not here. He seemed to hint that the Packers weren't done with this roster yet. Makes me wonder if the starter opposite Kirksey won't be here until next week (after teams make their cuts).
We saved.
WR EQ St. Brown returned to practice today, as did ILB Oren Burks. Burksâ return good timing in a week #Packers lost Kamal Martin for near future.
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) September 2, 2020
except for burks has shown zero - when healthy...enough with 42 already, maybe its time to go back to goldie-locks, the OG 52...just when i try to leave, they pull me back in...
â Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) September 2, 2020
Right tackle Billy Turner suffered a knee injury in Sunday's scrimmage and will miss some time, a source told ESPN. It's "nothing serious" -- as in not season-ending -- but Week 1 may be unlikely for the Packers' presumptive starter. https://t.co/oUx0oCcl7g
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2020
@YATittle posted:ESPN reported Martinâs surgery this week was on his left knee, not the right knee that needed surgery after last season.
I guess that's a little better, but the problem often is that an injury to one part of the body (especially the lower body) causes athletes to compensate by changing the mechanics of another part of the body which leads to injuries. It's probably why RBs have such short shelf lives, in particular.
Geez, you've gotta rotate those things every 6000 miles.
Death, taxes and substandard production at MLB in GB. I for one am shocked.
Damn, bummed about Martin. Liked him with the Gophers. Hopefully can get back and contribute.
Praying Kirksey stays healthy.
Ty Summers and Oren Burks. Oh boy.
gotta think BG is waiting for cutdowns so he can pick up some guys.
GBP1, you may be right. But don't understand why he'd wait to resign a guy like Veldheer now to help at OT with the injuries there. How about Clay Matthews to help at ILB ? And I've been hoping for months he'd sign a vet like Damon Harrison to fortify the DL. No depth and can't count on Montravius Adams. All these vets wouldn't cost much I would think. So why wait? Because even better options will exist after cutdown to 53 on Sat? Either way, he needs to add some reinforcements at these positions.
@sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r posted:All these vets wouldn't cost much I would think. So why wait?
Because if the vets are on the roster week 1, their entire annual salary is guaranteed. With the possibility of a COVID-induced shutdown, many teams with limited cap space have opted to wait on inking these vets. Damon Harrison is still deciding IF he is going to play per his comments on a recent podcast, but it was reported that GB made him an offer
Excellent point Satori. I sure hope that's the case and that Gutekunst will pounce after week 1. I had never heard GB made Harrison an offer. Any idea where/when you saw that?
@sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r posted:Any idea where/when you saw that?
I went back and looked it up, its really quite flimsy
https://247sports.com/nfl/gree...y-Packers-149677076/
"Green Bay was reportedly a finalist for wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who ended up in New Orleans and admitted to doing so because of the Wisconsin weather. Per a source, they also made a competitive contract offer to defensive tackle Damon âSnacksâ Harrison, who has yet to select a team for 2020 "
The Sanders comment is legit and I heard Harrison on a podcast saying he hadn't decided IF he was gonna play- so that's verified too.
But the part about the offer ?
I had one more thought on the delay in signing vets - the Packers are about to cut loose 27 guys and clear out their lockers, it might make sense to finish that before bringing in new guys given the COVID protocols.
Either way - Harrison and Tramon would be welcome additions on D and depending on how long Turner is out, Veldheer might be worth a vet minimum given his LT/RT experience.
2020 is a vet's year, I'd like to see a few added
Thanks for finding that. I now remember seeing it. Again, just hoping you're right about reasons why Gutekunst hasn't yet signed some of these vets. We really need those reinforcements.
Interesting.
As of yesterday afternoon, they had not called Jared Veldheer. That's surprising to me, but what do I know? https://t.co/xdCIVNRWwn
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 3, 2020
I fully expect Skip Clueless to turn this video into a scandal by Friday.
Boyle better be careful or he might have to play and ruin everything. https://t.co/KhwNXYDHO4
â Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) September 3, 2020
Gotta practice that flop and have it ready for the regular season. 
I liked the one of MVS and his momma's birthday car.. Momma is kind of a hottie too.
@Chongo posted:Packers rookie ILB Kamal Martin, who was in the mix to start Week 1, is undergoing knee surgery and is expected to miss several weeks, sources told ESPN. It's not season ending, but it's a setback. https://t.co/QBZ4lXmmTc
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2020Oren Burks is the luckiest MF to ever wear the green and gold.
Failing up.
I can't figure out the press this guy gets every year in TC.
Packers have not had a stellar LB drafting record the last 10 years. Hopefully Martin, Gary and Summers pan out. I think Burks is effectively done as a pro but will hang on due to need.
2020
Kamal Martin (5th)
2019
Rashan Gary (1st)
Ty Summers (7th)
2018
Oren Burks (3rd)
Kendall Donnerson (7th)
2017
Vince Biegel (4th)
2016
Kyler Fackrell (3rd)
2015
Jake Ryan (4th)
2014
None taken
2013
Nate Palmer (6th)
Sam Barrington (7th)
2012
Terrell Manning (5th)
2011
DJ Smith (6th)
2010
None taken
Green Bay Packers are working out WR Devin Smith, former first-round pick cut by the Dallas Cowboys, per source.
â Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) September 4, 2020
@michiganjoe posted:Green Bay Packers are working out WR Devin Smith, former first-round pick cut by the Dallas Cowboys, per source.
â Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) September 4, 2020
15 career receptions. 15.
Pass.
Don't be surprised if they end up with a couple of these type of players on the practice squad this year. You have six spots that have no limitations as far as active roster time in the NFL.
What has Smith EVER shown in the NFL to be worthy of a PS spot?
@ammo posted:I liked the one of MVS and his momma's birthday car.. Momma is kind of a hottie too.
I definitely checked her out more than once. Yummy! She might actually replace Ryan Kallil's mom as my favorite NFL mom.
@YATittle posted:What has Smith EVER shown in the NFL to be worthy of a PS spot?
Don't know, don't give a shit if they sign him or not. I'm just saying that a couple of THESE TYPES OF PLAYERS could be on the PS this year.
Hey at least they picked up a WR.
I seriously don't even remember the Cowboys taking this guy.
And why???
He was drafted by the New York Jets in the second round of the 2015 NFL Draft. He played college football at Ohio State.