2023 Packers Off-Season Thread

While the Packers could bring in a veteran to help mentor Love, the team has already brought in former Tennessee Volunteers QB Hendon Hooker for a top-30 visit.

Hooker isn’t the only quarterback prospect the Packers are bringing in for a visit. ESPN’s Rob Demovsky tweeted that the Packers are bringing in former Penn State starter Sean Clifford for a top-30 visit on Tuesday, April 11.

Clifford has been with the Nittany Lions since 2017, serving as the team’s starting quarterback for the last four seasons. He finished his career on a high note in 2022, going 11-2 as a starter with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions on his way to a Rose Bowl MVP.

At 24 years old, Clifford has plenty of starting experience that should help him at the next level, although his age and inconsistent production could lead to him going undrafted.

https://heavy.com/sports/green...fl-draft-penn-state/

@The Grinder posted:

Hey guys why don't we think about getting Bisaccia for Head Coach when LaFleur hangs'em up ?    Just sayin' .         

Hell yes!
I'd like to see him have a title like Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator/Special Teams Coordinator.
Watch him light Barry's ass up, and force him to sink or swim.

Mayday Mayday Mayday

"The compensatory window closes on the Monday after the draft. This year, that means May 1. At that point, teams can start signing free agents without messing with their compensatory-pick bounty."

The NFL initiated the comp-pick system in 1994. Over those almost-three decades, the Packers have gained 49 additional picks. That trails only the Baltimore Ravens (55) and Dallas Cowboys (52).

The Packers have selected some real gems with those extra comp picks. Offensive lineman Zach Tom might join the likes of Josh Sitton, Mike Daniels, Blake Martinez and Dean Lowry as fourth-round hits. Aaron Jones was the best of the fifth-rounders. Center Scott Wells was a find in the seventh round. "

Someone needs to sign Amos ASAP.

It's always a blurry picture.
Not buying it.

Fuck that driver.

I was clearly in the crosswalk.

I call BS.  That is clearly a sloth.

"A moose once bit my sister...
"No realli! She was Karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge—her brother-in-law— an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian movies: 'The Hot Hands of an Oslo Dentist,' 'Fillings of Passion,' 'The Huge Molars of Horst Nordfink'...
"Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti..."

Is anyone else shocked to see Bahktiari so critical of Rodgers?

https://heavy.com/sports/green...-rodgers-trade-jets/

Is any one else shocked to see somebody publicly admit they read the crapola shoveled by Heavy ?

They write headlines specifically to enrage stooopid people and get them to click on their lame-ass site.

Don't be stupid.

And please, don't ever post anything from those a-holes here again.

@RoyalWulff posted:

Is anyone else shocked to see Bahktiari so critical of Rodgers?

https://heavy.com/sports/green...-rodgers-trade-jets/

I was surprised since Rodgers was in his wedding just last year. He made other candid remarks too. Maybe he was drinking some of that Budweiser truth serum. There's just going to be a bunch of negative remarks surfacing about Rodgers on his way out the door.

The first part was definitely a shot at Rodgers and the drama he's created over the past couple of years. The other stuff about GB sucking, it's hard to tell who he's taking a shot at. Part of it seems like it's Rodgers, but also the stuff about "we're going to do it on our terms" seems like it's him taking a shot at the FO?

I get the impression Bak isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. But I do think there's an element of Rodgers fatigue running throughout the organization including the locker room. If Bak says this publicly what are other players who aren't close to Rodgers saying privately?

Not gonna lie.  Wouldn’t be surprised if this Bak playing with the media and AR knows all about it. Seems totally conceivable they’d be simpatico about F’ing with people/the media.

@RoyalWulff posted:

Is anyone else shocked to see Bahktiari so critical of Rodgers?

https://heavy.com/sports/green...-rodgers-trade-jets/

Yes!

Vernon Scott waived today.  A little surprised by the timing. 🤷‍♂️

@PackLandVA posted:

Not gonna lie.  Wouldn’t be surprised if this Bak playing with the media and AR knows all about it. Seems totally conceivable they’d be simpatico about F’ing with people/the media.

Just big kids having fun.  

How about winning a big game now and then, that would be grate fun for all.

@Packy posted:

Vernon Scott waived today.  A little surprised by the timing. 🤷‍♂️

Not the first time

Do we have the cap room to possibly get Budda Baker?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...ts-trade-source-says

Baker informed the Cardinals in February that he wanted to be traded or receive a new deal to make him the highest-paid safety, the source said.

Baker is owed $13.1 million this season and $14.2 million in 2024 from a four-year, $59 million extension he signed in 2020 that made him the highest-paid NFL safety at the time.

Trade Rodgers to Cards for Baker and Hopkins who also wants out of Arizona.

If Baker wants a new deal that makes him the highest paid safety I doubt GB is the place for him.

What the hell YaYa, you don't think Baker and Hopkins would improve the Pack?  Or don't you think that is enough compensation for Rodgers?  Which is it?

I don't care if you give me a thumbs down on every post, just back it up with a sound reason.   Just don't be a prick.

See, there you go being a prick!!

From Warren Sharp:

Snaps by youngsters,
GB will move up in these rankings in 2023 as they move some old guys out

2022 snaps played by players age 25 or younger:

18,302 - NYG
<huge gap>
16,451 - PIT
16,286 - DET
15,879 - DAL
15,868 - CAR
15,860 - SEA
15,693 - BAL
15,112 - KC
15,028 - JAX
14,802 - ATL
14,693 - CHI
14,640 - MIN
14,636 - PHI
14,336 - TB
14,227 - CLE
14,113 - LAC
14,079 - NYJ
13,683 - LV
13,394 - ARI
13,247 - TEN
13,193 - GB
13,041 - BUF
12,971 - SF
12,213 - WAS

Just a hunch, but I'm thinking GBs numbers change drastically in 2023.

From The Athletic

Tips on watching the game: ‘Find the grass.’

How we watch on TV is largely affected by the camera angles. Broadcasts tend to favor tight camera angles that are zoomed into wherever the ball is going. The problem is that there are 22 players on the field and oftentimes we can’t see the secondary and how the routes are developing downfield. Essentially, half of the story of the game is being hidden, especially with the ever-increasing usage of the passing game.

The NFL is starting to experiment with the usage of the sky cam, but based on backlash from fans I don’t anticipate a major change in how the game is shown. We can still watch the game smarter, but until fans are allowed to choose their own camera angles, we’ll have to take our clues where we can get them.

Chris Brown, the editor of Smart Football and one of the central figures in the evolution of how football is being covered more analytically, offers his advice:

“Before the snap, find the grass. A lot of people say to understand what’s really going on ‘watch the defense,’ or ‘watch the linebackers’ (partially on the theory that you will naturally find the ball) which is perfectly fine advice, but the reality is it’s a kind of odd way to watch an entire game or for more than just a few plays.

“The easier and to me just as interesting thing is to, before the snap, instead of watching the QB look at the sideline or whatever, is try to look at the defense and figure out where the “grass” is
— are they packed in tight and way off the receivers?
-----Are they spread out with big gaps/bubbles inside?
-----Is anyone covering the slot receiver?

Chances are that whatever you see is the same thing that the QB and offensive coordinator sees too, and you’ll be amazed at how often the ball goes to that open grass… as well as how often good defenses show open grass and then close it up fast. Then once the ball is snapped you can watch as normal, though now slightly more informed, fan.”

Always find the grass    

@Satori posted:

 

From The Athletic

Tips on watching the game: ‘Find the grass.’

“Always find the grass “

That was the theme in the early 70’s during my college days  😂😂😂

Goldie approves.

Speaking to the choir here bud.

@antooo posted:

Speaking to the choir here bud.

I see what you did there !       You said Bud. "Bevis laugh"

Anybody got insight on vet TE Tyler Higbee ?

Currently a Ram;  he checks a lot of boxes in Titletown.
Knows the offense, veteran TE, worked with MLF previously.

Rams are in full on rebuild; they need cheep young talent, Higbee is a FA next year. GB could re-work his deal OR just use 2023 as a prove-it year
He's only under contract for 1 season, so that lessens his trade value.

Rams would probably take a 5th for a player who apparently needs an image consultant. Come on Tyler, you live in LA fer cripes sake

https://overthecap.com/player/tyler-higbee/4823

He's a solid receiver, decent wheels, okay blocker. He also should be free of the diversion program from the assault conviction he got prior to the draft, which hurt his draft stock with probably everybody but Jeff Fisher. Basically, he was drunk, punched a guy in the face, and ran from the cops while the guy suffered a serious concussion and head injury. IIRC he had to randomly test clean of drugs AND alcohol for five years, as well as not possessing/owning firearms.

No Alcohol/Drugs/Firearms?!?! How is he expected to perform on the football field???

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...te-of-their-rebuild/
“Rebuild”? Who said that we are in rebuilding mode? 😉

I only noticed Higbee once, think it was a playoff game 2 seasons ago.  He looked really good, then got hurt.

@PackerPatrick posted:

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...te-of-their-rebuild/
“Rebuild”? Who said that we are in rebuilding mode? 😉

I don't see it as a rebuild either. The WR room is similar to last year where 3 were drafted. Lazard, Cobb, and Watkins? Those guys aren't hard to replace. There is also plenty of time to add vets throughout camp. A guy like Corey Davis could be on the street for a bargain price.

@PackerPatrick posted:

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...te-of-their-rebuild/
“Rebuild”? Who said that we are in rebuilding mode? 😉

First line of the article:

"We’re a couple of weeks from the 2023 NFL Draft, and the only receivers on the Green Bay Packers’ roster are the ones they drafted in 2022."

I mean, if you completely ignore Bo Melton and Jeff Cotton, then yeah.
If you want to argue that Melton and Cotton aren't legitimate candidates for a final roster spot, fine, (though I think Melton probably is), but if you want to be a writer please don't start an article with a demonstrably false statement.

[To be clear, that rant was aimed at the author of the article that PackerPatrick linked, Brandon Virk, not PP.]

@PackerPatrick posted:

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/...te-of-their-rebuild/
“Rebuild”? Who said that we are in rebuilding mode? 😉

I don't think Gute would risk going full rebuild as Love already experienced a full rebuild team his senior year in college and was horrible.  Gute is going to try to give him a team good enough to have have some success to build confidence and see what he has.

Now I think the days of keeping older players with not a great deal of upside around are gone.