@PA green & gold posted:The Arizona Cardinals charge their players for evening meals and off season meals when they eat in the facility. Also have the worst training facility/weight room.
That’s some bs right there - billion $ franchise right? Nickel and dimes… what does the owner run SAP or something?
Bidwill family tradition.
Current view of David Bakhtiari's contract with the Green Bay Packers:
— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) March 2, 2023
🧢$29.1M Cap Hit
💵$17.5M Cash
📈Packers can create $7.5M of space with a simple restructure, up to $12M using 3 void years.
🗒️Note: Packers & Bakhtiari did NOT use void years in his past 2 restructures. pic.twitter.com/daHyqHwqmZ
@Pikes Peak posted:Vikings won!
Is there a trophy for it?
Lost.
@pkr_north posted:That’s some bs right there - billion $ franchise right? Nickel and dimes… what does the owner run SAP or something?
More on what the players think about facilities. https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards
Cool link, Goldie!
@packerboi posted:More on the Packers grades from the NFLPA:
"For many years, players have brought up the idea of creating a 'Free Agency Guide,' which would contain information that can help illuminate what that daily experience is like for players and their families from team to team," Tretter wrote.
The packers take good care of their players relatively speaking - so that's a plus when it comes to FAs.
It was obvious that Lazard had seen the report before he did a recent interview - he knows he has it good in GB and that mo' money isn't the only Decider.
We've rarely heard Packer FAs go elsewhere and say the new club is better in these categories, usually it goes the other way.
The most hilarious former-Packer gripe was Jimmy Graham saying how
"the bears were all about winning championships, unlike the Packers" LOL
Lotta folks around here would agree with his opinion on GB.
@Boris posted:Shocking that the Packers figured out how to manipulate the cap.
When the salary cap era began, I thought that Wolf & Co. were far ahead of the curve managing it ("Pay as you go"). I would naturally assume the same was passed on to the next generation, and it seemingly was judging by Ball's management. Salary cap problems in Green Bay were unheard of.
Until the last few years, that is. Now, it's became a game of manipulating the cap for accounting purposes with restructures, salary conversions, void years, and other methods, and salary cap restrictions have affected the Packers.
Maybe it's all a smoke-and-mirrors show, but Ball may be adapting well, and is on top of his game more than I give him credit for.
Can you imagine being on his staff? The amount of work it must take to be prepared, in advance, for any scenario, as well as calculating where the best restructure deals are, plus day-to-day duties must be mind-boggling!
You can tell he’s been working out. He’s trimmed down a bit.
Draft is loaded with TE's but if you want a vet too -
Here's an article from the 33rd Team going through 6 Free Agent TE's including Mr Tonyan- who they consider a "a value deal "
Cheesehead TV talking about Zach Tom and where he will line up in 2023
https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...-packers-in-2023-615
He can handle RT so he'll definitely compete there
He can handle OC, so maybe he'll push Myers there
He might bulk up enough to be in the mix at RG too
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...t-utah-state-packers
Yost, whose two-year coaching run at Utah State included Love’s rise in 2017 and breakout season in 2018, is a bit busy on Sundays but he did watch Love’s start in 2021 at the Kansas City Chiefs and then his fourth-quarter relief appearance at the Philadelphia Eagles in 2022.
“A year ago when he got to play in the Chiefs game, he did not have a great day,” Coach Yost said. “And the Chiefs are a good team and all that, and I think they were trying protect him a little bit, but then when you got to see him play a little bit this year, he looked like a different guy.
“That’s a credit to him for being able to continue to improve even though he wasn’t playing all the time. I know he gets a lot of reps in practice, especially with Rodgers not being there all the time for the offseason, but he’d be the guy who would take full advantage of that and put himself in the best position to be successful. Not every guy does that.”
from Bill Huber;
Cornerback Eric Stokes, whose big-time rookie season was followed by a sophomore slump and a season-ending ankle injury in that same game at Detroit, is on track to practice at the start of training camp, according to sources.
“Eric has had zero setbacks and is ahead of schedule,” a source said. “He plans to be in Green Bay for the offseason program to continue his rehab and training. There is no set timetable for him to be back at 100 percent, but he is not expected to miss any portion of camp.”
More from Herr Huber at the combine
Bak Bak Bak
"Releasing Bakhtiari to create additional cap space is not a consideration.
Rather, after not giving up a single sack in 11 starts, he’ll be a building block of what the Packers hope will be a healthy and powerful offensive line.
“Certainly, when he’s in there, we’re a top-notch unit and having him out there was really important for us,” Gutekunst said. “Him getting into his rhythm and flow of how to get through the week and really to be able to perform at his highest level on Sundays was really important for us.
When he’s playing like that, it just is kind of a trickle-down effect and I think the whole unit as a whole played really, really well the second half of the season.”
Last year, Bak was only practicing 1 day most weeks. I think this may may improved late season, as he was regaining his form.
It was likely the smart thing to do, but I'd still like to see him make at least 2 days, if not 3, this season.
With Bak and Jenkins healthy our offense starts the season way ahead of last year no matter who our QB is.
from the Combine:
“My nipples are hard…for Allen Lazard.”
My source goes on to explain that that was a phrase he heard about Lazard, one of the top free agent wide receivers this year in a fairly thin class. I heard both the Ravens and Chiefs really like Lazard and my sense is that Lazard returning to Green Bay is not out of the question, but an unlikely outcome.
I just dont get the love affair with Lazard. I think he's a solid #3 but that's it. He had the red carpet rolled out for him in 2021 to be the #2 target and he finished with 40 catches for 513 yards. This year he had the carpet rolled out to be the #1 target in this offense. He finished with 60 catches for 788 yards. I just don't know what scenario makes him a 1,000 yard WR. Like what held him back in 2021 and 2022? He won't ever be in a situation with a QB like Rodgers and nearly zero competition for targets. What has to happen in 2023 for him to get there?
@CUPackFan posted:I just dont get the love affair with Lazard. I think he's a solid #3 but that's it.
He's considered a low 2, high 3, not sure what the problem is
That's a valuable piece and the going rate is about $10-13 M per season for that player. In the link below, OverTheCap has his 2022 valuation at $ 10.8M
https://overthecap.com/player/allen-lazard/7167
The Shanahan/McVay offenses are the rage and they all rely on a big slot who can get his hands dirty in the run game. Cooper Kupp fits the mold, Lazard too - but he's obviously a tier below. Move the chains, reliable on 3rd down
Your comment is mostly box score scouting - without even mentioning the true value Lazard brings to a run -focused offense. That makes it tough on the reader to give your post any credos or gebins.
Sounds like 2 - 3 teams will be in on him in FA + the Packers will take a swing.
The expectation for him to be the #1 WR last year was driven by "fans", not necessarily by the coaches, IMO.
I don't think that's his role in the offense, and it wouldn't make sense to put him in that position.
@Satori posted:He's considered a low 2, high 3, not sure what the problem is
That's a valuable piece and the going rate is about $10-13 M per season for that player. In the link below, OverTheCap has his 2022 valuation at $ 10.8M
https://overthecap.com/player/allen-lazard/7167The Shanahan/McVay offenses are the rage and they all rely on a big slot who can get his hands dirty in the run game. Cooper Kupp fits the mold, Lazard too - but he's obviously a tier below. Move the chains, reliable on 3rd down
Your comment is mostly box score scouting - without even mentioning the true value Lazard brings to a run -focused offense. That makes it tough on the reader to give your post any credos or gebins.
Sounds like 2 - 3 teams will be in on him in FA + the Packers will take a swing.
Yes, he provides more value lining up from the slot, where essentially he becomes a TE, this is what his skill set has always been. IMHO we've played him too often on the outside and tried to throw to him outside the hash, where his lack of speed doesn't dictate safety help.
Lazard is a glue guy. Unfortunately, the Packers can't afford him in a scant WR FA market. Unless he takes a steep discount (why would he), I don't see him back.
@Satori posted:He's considered a low 2, high 3, not sure what the problem is
That's a valuable piece and the going rate is about $10-13 M per season for that player. In the link below, OverTheCap has his 2022 valuation at $ 10.8M
I won't argue that he's a low 2/ high 3, but a $10m cap hit for a WR is actually the #32 ranked cap hit for a WR in 2023. So $10-11m is not appropriate for a low 2 / high 3. That would be around 55ish ranked WR - which has a cap hit of around $4m. That's what I think Lazard should get.
He may get $10m like Spotrac says. But so did MVS and we all saw that he was not performing like a $10m WR this year. Packers aren't in a position to overpay for guys who aren't and likely never will be difference makers.
Love Lazard but can't overpay a mid level WR. Pack probably opt for a vet WR on cheap to help young WRs grow. Worked out well with Sammy Watshisname, er no?
you keep guys like Lazard around imho, there's always more money
He has the Bisaccia bona fides! Gotta love it!
Two more additions to the Packers coaching staff, per sources:
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 8, 2023
Rob Grosso: Offensive Quality Control
Kyle Wilber: Special Teams Quality Control
Wilber previously played for ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia with both the Cowboys and Raiders.
overpaying for guys like lazard is not a winning strategy. he’s a dime a dozen
Ravens are stacked at Safety in 2023, might consider a trade for this guy
Chuck Clark 28 yrs old
https://overthecap.com/player/chuck-clark/5772
Click on his "statistics" and you'll see he played 105.9 % of the snaps on defense last year- that seems impressive.
Perhaps a 4th - 5th round pick might interest Ozzy Jr.
Das Gute talks vet WR
"All three guys factor significantly into the Packers' future plans at receiver, though Gutekunst told reporters he'd still like to have a veteran in that room next season. At the moment, Watson's 14 career NFL games are the most of any receiver on the offseason roster.
"All those guys are going into their second year. I'd love to have a veteran presence," Gutekunst said. "Just another guy in the room that those guys can bounce things off of and bring to the table."
https://overthecap.com/free-agency
You can sort it by WRs. Kumerow available
@Satori posted:Perhaps a 4th - 5th round pick might interest Ozzy Jr.
Keep the 4th and 5th, give ‘em the 3rd rounder. Tends to be a big, fat, stinkin’ turd anyhow.
J-E-T-S just snatched up Mr Clark.
He said snatch.
I thought they were creating cap space for AR.
