2025 Black Monday - Coaching carousel

@mrtundra posted:

Hafley has to prove he can get his Defensive system to work, prior to going after a HC job, anywhere. I saw lot of Barry-like schemes on the field, this past season, that would tend to make me have second thoughts about seeing Hafley as a HC. He needs Gute to draft 4-3 scheme defenders to show how his system works. So far, Hafley hasn't shown anyone anything, regarding any DC skills he may have, let alone any HC abilities.

So our defense this year:

Points allowed: 6th

Yards Allowed: 4th

Turnovers: 6th

Sacks: 9th

"Hafley hasn't shown anyone anything" ? This is the NFL.... TEAMS ARE GOING TO MOVE THE BALL AND SCORE POINTS. People watch games and if the defense doesn't get a 3 and out on every series they "suck" ....

@FLPACKER posted:

So our defense this year:

Points allowed: 6th

Yards Allowed: 4th

Turnovers: 6th

Sacks: 9th

"Hafley hasn't shown anyone anything" ? This is the NFL.... TEAMS ARE GOING TO MOVE THE BALL AND SCORE POINTS. People watch games and if the defense doesn't get a 3 and out on every series they "suck" ....

How was their actual strength of schedule?  They lost all 4 to the Lions and Vikings.

Top 10 in sacks with no pass rush.

@D J posted:

How was their actual strength of schedule?  They lost all 4 to the Lions and Vikings.

And those games are included in the stats that go into ranking .... we had the 6th most difficult schedule this season.

@lovepack posted:

Top 10 in sacks with no pass rush.

Yeah, that stat surprised me.  Does that mean there were over twenty teams in the NFL with a worse pass rush than the Packers?

Yes....even using "sack percentage" (percentage of pass plays you sacked the QB) we are 11th.  Playoff teams below us (worse) in that category are; Philly, Vikings, Detroit, KC, Buffalo, Pittsburgh. As I alluded to in another thread, because we watch every play of every Packer game and not other teams, we lose all perspective of what the "norm" is. Of course this stat doesn't take into account what team had to do to get these sacks that would lead to more problems in coverage (how many players did you have to rush).

Good place for Jumbo Jack...groping doesn't get you fired in France...

Former Jaguars and Raiders head coach Jack Del Rio has been named the head coach of the Paris Musketeers of the European League of Football. pic.twitter.com/LFhTyR9AIG

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 17, 2025

@bdplant posted:

Yeah, that stat surprised me.  Does that mean there were over twenty teams in the NFL with a worse pass rush than the Packers?

The other thing is the Packers don’t have a premier pass rusher that we can point to, they have a bunch of guys with a few each. Gary had 7.5 to lead the team, which isn’t a premier total. Their other first round DE had the same number as a DB (Nixon) and at least one of those was a gimme on a broken play.

In other words, there is little for opponents to fear. No one that demands a double on every play and certainly no one to draw up a game plan for.

@Herschel posted:

The other thing is the Packers don’t have a premier pass rusher that we can point to, they have a bunch of guys with a few each. Gary had 7.5 to lead the team, which isn’t a premier total. Their other first round DE had the same number as a DB (Nixon) and at least one of those was a gimme on a broken play.

Of Gary's 7.5 sacks, one was a play where the center snapped the ball early and no one on the OL actually moved. At least one other (and maybe 2) happened when there was a bad snap and the QB had to spend time grabbing the ball off the ground). At least 3 others were coverage sacks. Gary has a good motor and keeps hustling, which is why he gets those types of sacks before the other DL often do, but he rarely gets a sack by just overwhelming the guy blocking him.

Van Ness doesn't even seem to get the types of sacks you get by having a good motor. He just engages the tackle and then doesn't have another move to go to.

@FLPACKER posted:

And those games are included in the stats that go into ranking .... we had the 6th most difficult schedule this season.

The Lions and Vikings were a big part of that.

They nearly lost both games to the Bears on the opposite spectrum.

https://nesn.com/2025/01/patri...fensive-coordinator/

#Lions HC Dan Campbell said today he’s expecting OC Ben Johnson and DC Aaron Glenn to take head coaching positions in the coming days.

“I’m prepared to lose both.” pic.twitter.com/usGcrHZM9P

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) January 20, 2025

Per Schefter, Ben Johnson has been hired as the Bears new coach:

A new day in Chicago: The #Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Ben Johnson as their head coach, per sources.

Johnson is set to fly there soon and contract parameters are in place. Barring a last-minute snag, the #Lions OC lands with an NFC North rival.

@packerboi posted:

Per Schefter, Ben Johnson has been hired as the Bears new coach:

A new day in Chicago: The #Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Ben Johnson as their head coach, per sources.

Johnson is set to fly there soon and contract parameters are in place. Barring a last-minute snag, the #Lions OC lands with an NFC North rival.

and he's expected to hire former saints coach dennis allen as dc

@packerboi posted:

Per Schefter, Ben Johnson has been hired as the Bears new coach:

A new day in Chicago: The #Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Ben Johnson as their head coach, per sources.

Johnson is set to fly there soon and contract parameters are in place. Barring a last-minute snag, the #Lions OC lands with an NFC North rival.

Definitely going to hurt Jared Goff.

You have to wonder how much distraction this was for Johnson.

So would McCarthy take the OC position if asked. if not where does this hire of Johnson leave him?

I don't know why BJ would want MMC as his OC.  Or is that satire?

@ammo posted:

So would McCarthy take the OC position if asked. if not where does this hire of Johnson leave him?

I don’t think a new, young HC who’s never been one would want a SB winning , former HC as his new offensive coordinator. That’s just too much ego in one room and I think Johnson would find that too intimidating.

Not to mention if things go south early, Johnson does not need to hear clamoring from the media to fire him and promote MM. which would surely happen  

@packerboi posted:

Per Schefter, Ben Johnson has been hired as the Bears new coach:

A new day in Chicago: The #Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Ben Johnson as their head coach, per sources.

Johnson is set to fly there soon and contract parameters are in place. Barring a last-minute snag, the #Lions OC lands with an NFC North rival.

Hope I am wrong but this hiring is eerily similar to the Packers snagging Mike Holmgren from SF to cultivate the talent of a young Brett Favre.  Hoping the Bears continue to find ways to F things up, but I am starting to be concerned about the NFC North becoming even tougher - though I expect the Vikings and Lions to take a step back next year.

No guarantee that Johnson will have the same success as a Head Coach as he did as OC .....

If they fix the OL their O should definitely improve.  "You get what you emphasize."

Hard to say what will happen with their D.  After getting a lot of hype in the offseason and starting strong in 24, they really dropped off.  Partially due to injuries. but also promising young players not developing.

Well, that did not take long for the Bears to snag Johnson. He only had a virtual interview with them during the Lions bye week.

I thought it was going to be the dark horse, Eddie George.

What a sham the rooney rule is.  Small r intended.

@DurangoDoug posted:

Well, that did not take long for the Bears to snag Johnson. He only had a virtual interview with them during the Lions bye week.

And I'll assure you that absolutely no tampering occurred...

Yeah....figured you guys would be on it.

https://apnews.com/article/chi...563253f2a87779f7c1df

I come bearing a link from APNews.

That poor soul 🤣

Maybe if Brady leveraged his FOX color analyst position Johnson would've signed with Vegas?

@Timmy! posted:

And I'll assure you that absolutely no tampering occurred...

There likely wasn’t anything more than a short-ish chat and a virtual check with a large number of zeros left of the decimal point.

Out with the old, in with the old:

The Patriots are hiring Josh McDaniels to be their offensive coordinator, per source.

A familiar face in New England, McDaniels is back for his third stint with the organization

Lots of OC's in NE looked great when #12 was QB1

Jets working to finalize deal to hire Aaron Glenn as head coach. https://t.co/UBFf7zaMeT

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 21, 2025

Awww too bad for feet licking  Rex

Sometimes staying where you are, maybe getting a nice bump is better than moving on.  

Im looking at you Aaron.

Which one?

@packerboi posted:

Out with the old, in with the old:

The Patriots are hiring Josh McDaniels to be their offensive coordinator, per source.

A familiar face in New England, McDaniels is back for his third stint with the organization

"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss."

And, FWIW, Billy Martin did it first!

Lions defensive line coach Terrell Williams, who worked with Mike Vrabel in Tennessee from 2018-2023, is leaving Detroit to become the Patriots defensive coordinator, sources tell @MikeReiss and me.

Vrabel thought so highly of Williams that he had him serve as head coach of the… pic.twitter.com/sZdeQoT6NL

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 22, 2025

Losses continue to mount for the Lions.

Breaking: I'm told that #Lions DC Aaron Glenn has made it known he's planning to take the #Jets head coach job, as early as yesterday, per multiple league sources.

This is the expectation still, barring a major setback or flub. pic.twitter.com/Q2eTmAvwMX

— JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) January 22, 2025

Al Groh is a Defensive Genius!
Herman Edwards is a Defensive Genius!
Eric Mangini is a Defensive Genius!
Rex Ryan is a Defensive Genius!
Todd Bowles is a Defensive Genius!
Robert Saleh is a Defensive Genius!
Aaron Glenn IS THE SAME OLD SHIT.#Jetup pic.twitter.com/1OYfqUe3Ug

— Vinny C. (@VinandtheJets) January 21, 2025

@michiganjoe posted:

Lions defensive line coach Terrell Williams, who worked with Mike Vrabel in Tennessee from 2018-2023, is leaving Detroit to become the Patriots defensive coordinator, sources tell @MikeReiss and me.

Vrabel thought so highly of Williams that he had him serve as head coach of the… pic.twitter.com/sZdeQoT6NL

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 22, 2025

Losses continue to mount for the Lions.

The Lions had their shot.....Window slamming shut