@Pakrz posted:My guess is if Love finds continued success in the NFL and lands a huge contract or two, his personality might be a bit different in 10 years than it is today. I'm certain we've seen that before.
12 was always an arrogant chip on shoulder guy. Love is not. He may become that guy but not necessarily.
@FLPACKER posted:Great point, IMHO AR's overriding need to prove he is the smartest guy in the room resulted in overcomplicating the game. He wanted to play chess but couldn't understand that all he really needed to play was checkers.
LeRoy Butler said recently that the reason that he thinks Ballentine/Valentine have been playing so well is that they just play the play as called. Whereas a guy like Jaire tends to want to prove he's the best CB in the league, so he's taking risks he doesn't need to take.
Later in his career it always seemed like Rodgers got a bit bored and didn't want to be considered a game manager which is why we always got sand lot football.
There's something we haven't talked about all year with Love, he's never looking to roll out of the pocket and extend the play, he's always trying to throw in rhythm with anticipation. We don't play sand lot football anymore.
And I think the anticipation throws is why Rodgers wouldn't throw to young WRs. You have to assume they are breaking the route correctly because the ball is out before they even make their break. Rodgers couldn't trust them to do so so he only threw to guys he know would be in the right spot.
Love will throw it regardless. It means sometimes he misses and doesn't have as high of a completion % as Rodgers, but it means he doesn't need to extend plays and a lot more receivers get the ball. Probably why Melton was our first 100 yd receiver this year, ball is getting spread around everywhere, not forced to one or two guys.
It is a team game.
8-8 TEAM and counting Love Super Bowl W’s
JF
The x4 Mount Rushmore of mediocre posters
Think maybe hold off a bit before you crown him.
@Iowacheese posted:8-8 TEAM and counting Love Super Bowl W’s
JF
The x4 Mount Rushmore of mediocre posters
Think maybe hold off a bit before you crown him.
I was doing it before the season.🤷♂️ Slowline? Hello!😝
Now watch him play like shit today.😅
@Goalline posted:So smart he ignored a wide open Lazard to force it to a double covered Davante. Such a pleasure watching Love spread the ball around. Bo Melton? Rodgers wouldn’t have let him sniff the ball.
Smart doesn't overrule stubborn. Rodgers has both of these traits in spades.
@PackerHawk posted:Smart doesn't overrule stubborn. Rodgers has both of these traits in spades.
Ego ball.
Ah well, our Packers play a big game today. Time to enjoy this team and to ignore the past.
Too bad for Lizard.
I would just as soon see him playing well, but something has gone way wrong in NY. FWIW, I'm surprised ARod hasn't got him back on the path, or at least be the middle man between the team (or coach) and Lizard.
The grass ain't always greener on the other side.
Rodgers this morning.
@antwanstaley: Aaron Rodgers: "The bullshit that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."
@ilcuqui posted:Rodgers this morning.
@antwanstaley: Aaron Rodgers: "The bullshit that has nothing to do with winning, needs to get out of the building."
Rodgers is going to announce his retirement?
The bullshit is out of 1265.
@Timmy! posted:Too bad for Lizard.
I would just as soon see him playing well, but something has gone way wrong in NY. FWIW, I'm surprised ARod hasn't got him back on the path, or at least be the middle man between the team (or coach) and Lizard.
The grass ain't always greener on the other side.
But the money often is.
I don't think Lazard is too upset. Of course you want to win, but he made 6 million dollars in 5 years as a Packer and got 22 million guaranteed from the Jets.
He has enough money to live comfortably the rest of of his life now. 6 million (probably half that after taxes) is nothing to sneeze at, but the 11 million he probably netted after taxes from the Jets will spin off 200-300K a year for him the rest of his life it he just sticks it in a low interest CD.
Looked at the standings this morning to find the Jets at 7-10.
How the hell did they win 7 games? Not the high RD2 pick I was hoping for.
Does Salah need to be in the COTY discussion. Lots of juggling and coaching needed to get that outfit to 7 wins.
Of course he had a great puppeteer behind the scenes calling the shots.
Absolutely not.
Tongue in cheek…3rd sentence says it all.
@Pakrz posted:My guess is if Love finds continued success in the NFL and lands a huge contract or two, his personality might be a bit different in 10 years than it is today. I'm certain we've seen that before.
Mark Tauscher, who played with Aaron(and Brett) talked about this today. He talked about how Rodgers was never a grounded, humble person like Jordan appears to be. Aaron just became more of himself when he got the money and the acclaim.
Most ultra successful people I know I very humble people. They don't have to prove anything to anyone and they just remain true to themselves.
Interestingly, I have spent time around UW coaches from 10-20 years ago. It seemed the more successful ones were the nicest ones.
Interesting and true I'm sure. In same way that a true Alpha Male doesn't go around reminding others they are an Alpha Male. They just are. It's known.
@Pikes Peak posted:The bullshit is out of 1265.
Mark Murphy retired?
@Goalline posted:Mark Tauscher, who played with Aaron(and Brett) talked about this today. He talked about how Rodgers was never a grounded, humble person like Jordan appears to be. Aaron just became more of himself when he got the money and the acclaim.
Most ultra successful people I know I very humble people. They don't have to prove anything to anyone and they just remain true to themselves.
Interestingly, I have spent time around UW coaches from 10-20 years ago. It seemed the more successful ones were the nicest ones.
I've seen in this on the biomedical side of things too (consistent for academic medical centers, large Pharma, and smaller biotechs) with a caveat.
The guys that are full of themselves can often succeed in the short term. I interacted with a CEO of a large pharmaceutical company that was the biggest jackass that I ever met. The short-term performance of the company improved (these types are very good at quickly cutting dead wood and also finding "efficiencies" that improve the short-term bottom line without caring about the long-term ramifications, but often go too far), By Year 2 the toxic culture had really been set and people were looking to leave in droves. Everyone who wasn't a sycophantic yes person had either left or just given up trying to improve anything. The leaders with long-term success are often less flashy at the beginning and focus on building a culture and a system that is sustainable.
I think you see this with NFL coaches like Rex Ryan. Short-term success and then most of the players want to kill them after about Year 3. Jim Harbaugh is similar - which is why he's probably a better fit in college.
@DH13 posted:Looked at the standings this morning to find the Jets at 7-10.
How the hell did they win 7 games? Not the high RD2 pick I was hoping for.
If they had Rodgers they probably win 11-12 and are the #2 seed. They have some good skill players and a championship level defense.
Next year (September 2024) is a new year and new challenges await. I'll be watching
@MichiganPacker posted:But the money often is.
I don't think Lazard is too upset. Of course you want to win, but he made 6 million dollars in 5 years as a Packer and got 22 million guaranteed from the Jets.He has enough money to live comfortably the rest of of his life now. 6 million (probably half that after taxes) is nothing to sneeze at, but the 11 million he probably netted after taxes from the Jets will spin off 200-300K a year for him the rest of his life it he just sticks it in a low interest CD.
You can get 5.5% guaranteed return right now. That's 605k if he invested the full 11 million. At that level of income, probably netting around $375k a year if you never touch the principal.
That's not filthy rich but it's damn nice. Problem is that rates fluctuate, so he can lock in that rate today, but next year will be a different rate.
If I wear in his shoes, I'd probably do a nice chunk into a Indexed Universal Life Policy. Return isn't guaranteed, but they cap the potential loss at zero. Gains are also capped, but when you take distributions it's considered a loan, so it's tax free. So if he can let it ride for a while and the market does well, he could take 5.5% distributions for life and get the full 605k.
The other downside is, at death, if you haven't take distributions that equate to the death benefit + distributions, you lose money. So not much legacy money left over. That's why you only do a portion.
@Goalline posted:Interestingly, I have spent time around UW coaches from 10-20 years ago. It seemed the more successful ones were the nicest ones.
My daughter waited on Barry Alvarez when she worked at Jordan's Big Ten. He was her 1st customer on the day the boss let her work with no trainer. She said Barry was very nice and a good tipper too. 
I’m just here for the financial, political and health advice.
@Iowacheese posted:I’m just here for the financial, political and health advice.
My advice would be to lay off the doughnuts.
@Iowacheese posted:I’m just here for the financial, political and health advice.
How's that working for you?
I prefer to diversify my investments. I put some towards Lotto and some towards PowerBall. Then I roll the rest over to the Wheel of Fortune slots.
@H5 posted:How's that working for you?
Yanking down 65K
Doing a lot of cheerleading
eating a ton of shrooms
Ballin!!
@H5 posted:How's that working for you?
You know that old song, Zero Out Of Three Ain't Bad.
Aaron isn't going to like this
So glad this clown has taken his circus act to New York and we don’t have to deal with it anymore.
I love how he lectures the media and team about the need to be fully invested and be all about football. Is that what you hope to accomplish with your weekly McAfee visits Aaron?
What a putz. Good luck in NY buddy and you had better hope you win next year or they will run you out of town quicker than you can say Rich Kotite.
Says need to clean out the bullshit. Like ghee cleanse, darkness retreat, and dismissing science. Oh wait, the Packers did just that.
I'm sure we'll get an appropriate response on the PMS from our hero
