Rodgers is a narcissist.
Oh, and one of the best to ever play QB.
For years I chose to downplay his estrangement from his family, but I keep coming back to a line from Springsteen's "Highway Patrolman"
"a man turns his back on his family, well he just ain't no good"
@Dr._Bob posted:already-inflated ego, which leads to any emotionally-driven thinking that reinforces his sense of superiority and overwhelms more rational thought and limits on his extreme conspiracy-type beliefs (potentially also inflated by his microdosing of hallucinogens). But the roots of that ego were already there. I think what has amplified all of it is the more recent culture of social media that creates an out of control feed forward loop where crazy ideas, reduced empathy and respect for particular groups of people, and immature self-righteous refusal to accept any limits on one's behavior,
Congratulations Doc. You just described 87 percent of the posters here.
Luckily I remain a 13 percenter
@FLPACKER posted:For years I chose to downplay his estrangement from his family, but I keep coming back to a line from Springsteen's "Highway Patrolman"
"a man turns his back on his family, well he just ain't no good"
Why do you give a fuck about his estrangement from his family?
We call a man a narcissist in one breath and then pretend like we can make an informed judgment on his relationship with his family in the next? Lol
You have no idea what has transpired in that relationship. Stop pretending like you do.
@FLPACKER posted:For years I chose to downplay his estrangement from his family, but I keep coming back to a line from Springsteen's "Highway Patrolman"
"a man turns his back on his family, well he just ain't no good"
why is it his fault. I don't know the details but I did hear Olivia Munn defend aaron about that after they broke up. She did not get into specifics but here comments were she understood it. Her only comment was "if you stand on someones shoulder, don't throw dirt in their eyes"
@Iowacheese posted:Luckily I remain a 13 percenter
Technically, $65k puts you in the 35% range.
@H5 posted:Rodgers is a narcissist.
Oh, and one of the best to ever play QB.
I think these two things probably go hand-in-hand, especially in today's world of huge, huge contracts, social media, advertising, society's adoration of athletes, the mouthpiece they're given, etc. There's only 32 jobs for starting QB in the NFL, and even fewer who are the elite among the best, so it's prime territory for a narcissist or becoming one. It's just another way society has gotten skewed giving too much credence toward money and fame.
Sure, and I know it's early, but Love seems different.
Agreed. It could happen to Love also, but for anyone who suggests that the arrogance and narcissism are inevitable for NFL quarterbacks, we need look no further than our own Bart Starr. A man of immense success but also one who could truly be respected and admired. In a world of Aarons, be like Bart.
A good AR memory.
14 years ago today was the highest scoring playoff game in NFL history. A missed face mask call resulted in a 48-45 Packers loss in Arizona.
This came up on a Twitter feed and the two minutes in this video are a good watch. This is when Aaron Rodgers really arrived. Some of these throws are incredibly. It also reminds me of how good a WR Greg Jennings was. Look at some of these catches by him.
The other thing is that a Green Bay defense loaded with star players get lit up in playoff game (Woodson, Nick Collins, CM3, etc.)
I watched it, I had forgotten Rodgers missed a wide open Jennings the play before the facemask Td.(jennings probably ran the route) I also forgot they were down 31 to 10. Incredible comeback. I remember MM knees buckling when the facemask TD happened. Would have been special to win that game.
They were supposed to win that game. I think Kurt Warner is more proud of that game than his Super Bowl.
How could you forget the over throw to Jennings the play before the face mask?! I still think about it to this day.
@Boris posted:How could you forget the over throw to Jennings the play before the face mask?! I still think about it to this day.
I am old. The only play I actually remember from that game is the facemask and McCarthy falling to his knees at the end. I know I would have remembered if he caught it.
I watch that playoff clip and immediately think of how long I've hated Buck and Aikman...When I saw that this Sunday FOX will have Burkhardt and Olson and not those two, I wept with joy
@Dr._Bob posted:Agreed. It could happen to Love also, but for anyone who suggests that the arrogance and narcissism are inevitable for NFL quarterbacks, we need look no further than our own Bart Starr. A man of immense success but also one who could truly be respected and admired. In a world of Aarons, be like Bart.
Of course, I didn't forget Bart! But in today's world (hard to believe it's been almost 60 years since the Ice Bowl), it's harder for the Barts of the world to stay Barts given all the attention, etc. Or, maybe we just don't hear about the Barts that are out there? There has to be some, right?
@Pikes Peak posted:Who is this BK of which you speak?
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I'll give it to Tom Brady - he's stayed fairly grounded considering his success. Obviously there is plenty we don't see but seems like a lot of his success stems from his ability to be 'one of the guys'. To take criticism from Bill and Josh and roll with it, showing the team that even Tom is held accountable. I've heard so many stories of Tom introducing himself to some rookie 6th rounder on his first day, saying "let me know if you have any questions".
Of course, we don't really know any of these guys. I learned that as a kid with Favre.
@H5 posted:
IIRC, Rodgers doesn't appear on PMS after the end of the regular season. Nothing to see there.
He was on today or so I read.
@titmfatied posted:
That was a very short sabbatical.
@Fandame posted:That was a very short sabbatical.
Really good by McAfee.
I could have sworn I once saw Mandela playing a Polybius arcade game.
look before posting? surely you jest, or is that jets? whoops
@Goalline posted:What part of the body do rational thoughts and common sense reside?
Wait, for AR or IC?
Upon appeal, #Jets RB Breece Hall’s $43,709 fine has been rescinded for this play last month, per source. pic.twitter.com/In3h2A8ute
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 13, 2024
That's not from Yahoo; they only aggregated it from Rolling Stone. Ask the brothers of Phi Kappa Psi about them.
You're better off with the dandies of Gamma Chi.
I suddenly realized that Rodgers is the middle child between Favre and Love and he's just been acting out for attention.
This is a very deeply reported and well written piece from The Athletic on the dysfunction for the Jets this last year. They interviewed 30 sources. It's behind a paywall, but if you subscribe it's well worth the few minutes to read.
It's not surprising that a team with Rodgers at this stage of his career is dysfunctional, but the level of dysfunction is remarkable even for those of us who are very familiar with Rodgers. What an absolute shit show. The fact that they are quoting players and coaches about the incompetence and impotence of the head coach and the offensive coordinator before a season when they are running it all back is unprecedented. You usually don't get trashed this much even after you have been fired.
Hackett is basically incompetent and Rodgers decides on a play by play basis what to run (even in practice). Saleh is paranoid that Rodgers is not supporting him. Zach Wilson felt betrayed by Rodgers. Lazard wore out his welcome and pissed off some of the defensive players with some of his comments.
It wouldn't surprise me if Saleh was secretly hoping they'd fire him so he could go be the Packers' DC. He's built an outstanding defense and can't really control anything on the offensive side (even as the head coach) because Rodgers is calling all the shots. If they start next season and fall under 500 in the first month they'll probably fire Saleh and promote Hackett.
https://theathletic.com/523859...=user_shared_article
Some snippets.
Those sources described a team riddled with excuse-making, a paranoid head coach, an ill-equipped offensive coordinator and an organizational tunnel vision on the quarterback that rubbed some teammates wrong.
“It’s just such a f—ing mess,” one Jets coach said. “Something has to change.”
“Rodgers isn’t the assistant GM,” one AFC general manager said. “Joe Douglas is the assistant GM.”
Rodgers and Hackett’s relationship dynamic is more frat brothers than player/coach, and Rodgers appreciates having the free will to operate the system as he sees fit.
“That’s what Aaron wants” was a common refrain from Hackett as he told coaches what plays he wanted to run during camp. Often, Rodgers would hear Hackett’s play call and want something else, so the entire offense would reset.
Multiple coaches and players described Hackett as lacking in attention to detail.
...some Jets teammates and coaches, grew tired of the way Saleh fawned over Rodgers, according to team sources.
This is the money shot quote from the end of the article that sums up everything going on for the Jets right now.
In the locker room, there was often a scooter propped up against Rodgers’ locker, which he’d sometimes use around the facility for his surgically repaired Achilles. On the back, there’s a fake New Jersey license plate with two words: WATCH ME.
I’m sure glad we moved on from Aaron.
Really a well-reported and devastating piece.