@MichiganPacker posted:Andrew Brandt (a very good follow on Twitter, a former Packer employee, and a close colleague of AR when he was in Green Bay) often posts this comment in his Twitter/X feed. He hasn't specifically for this yet, but I would bet he will make some comment like this.Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandtThere will be lawyers..
Maybe in his Sunday 7?
@MichiganPacker posted:Except that if they keep Fields
They won't.....they can't. No way they trade the #1 overall pick 2 years straight.
Justin will be a Raider and slinging the ball to Davante Adams 😉🙂
@ammo posted:Maybe the Bears should just keep Fields and turn him into a Taysom Hill type guy only with more plays. The D would never know who is going to be running and who will be passing. It would be the ultimate RPO offense.
In theory, yes, but no agent is going to let that happen.
The average franchise and transition tags for RBs in the NFL are 12.5 million and 10 million. There are 9 RBs scheduled to make more than 7 million a year in 2024, and 11 more that will make more than 4 million.
The average franchise and transition tags for QBs 36 million and 31 million. A run-of-the-mill backup QB salary is about 4 to 7 million a year (Trubisky, Mike White, Heinecke, Dalton, Mariota, Winston, and Stidham are all in that range. There are 38 NFL QBs scheduled to make more than 4 million next year. 19 of them make more than 25 million. Christian McCaffrey is the top RB at 16 million.
Fields is at least an average QB. Geno Smith is a good comparison and he just got 25 million a year. Fields would get at least 20-25 million to start somewhere if he were a free agent. Even if you thought he was just worth a backup slot, he'd probably get 7-8 million. QBs can play until they are in their mid-30s. RBs are usually done by the time they are 28.
Basically, NFL values the RB position at this point where you get paid more to be a C-/D+ QB holding a clipboard (Trubisky, Mariota, Winston, Heinecke, or Dalton) than a starting caliber (B/B+) level RB who gets hit a few hundred times a year carrying the football (David Montgomery, Miles Sanders, Austin Ekeler).
Taysom Hill got 4 years and 40 million, partially because he can also be a backup QB. Maybe Fields gets 4 years and 50 million as the same type of player, but if he hits as starting caliber QB, he might get 50 million a year.
@Dr._Bob posted:I'm just starting to feel sad for him. For a guy who has more money than I'll ever see and more football accomplishments than most people can ever dream of. But now I just pity him for what's happened to his mind.
I feel no sadness or empathy for him. He evolved into a self-righteous, arrogant narcissist who escaped scrutiny by playing in the smallest market in professional sports. He finally reached the pinnacle he wanted to reach in NYC, took in the social life and enjoyed the limelight, and now it's gratifying to see him fall from grace. It must be killing him to see/hear/read what the media and vast majority of the public think of him now. No doubt he was one of the greatest talents ever at QB, but he is a fuckwad who always believed he was the smartest in the room, on every subject.
But MichiganPacker, the Bears have 2 more years of Fields rookie contract. Draft a QB with the 1st pick and let things play out. If a new OC can show significant improvement in Fields he gets new contract in his 5th year. If that should happen, trade whoever you picked with the #1 this year. If Fields does not show improvement, let him walk and take the comp pick.
IIRC, Rodgers doesn't appear on PMS after the end of the regular season. Nothing to see there.
Cancel culture!!!!
A lot of delicate flowers.
Cue up the victim card play and the all too predictable "free speech" excuse machine.
Cancel Culture wins again!!!
That didn't take long.
@Floridarob posted:Cancel Culture wins again!!!
Who now has been cancelled?
Katt Williams
BK?
My wife says A Rod is less about being a wacko and more about him suffering from CTE. Any doctor or neurologist want to chime in?
I said both things can be true at the same time. That’s some 1st chair wisdom there boys and girls!
When does he come off the TimesFour banner?!?!
When Love wins his 1st MVP. Regular season or Superb Owl, don't care which one.
Canceled.
What these people don't comprehend, is that only amplifies his words.
Who are these people?
@Pikes Peak posted:Who are these people?
People are saying.
I know somebody that should be cancelled.
@ammo posted:I know somebody that should be cancelled.
🤔
@Tschmack posted:Any doctor or neurologist want to chime in?
I am told there are 3 things that happen when you get old. The first is your memory goes. ....... I forget what the other 2 things are.
@michiganjoe posted:Pat McAfee says that Aaron Rodgers will not appear as a guest on his show for the remainder of the NFL season. pic.twitter.com/vEpgjYM4de
— Front Office Sports (@FOS) January 10, 2024Not really all that surprising.
Pat took another look at his ESPN contract and counted the number of zeros after the $85 noted.
@Iowacheese posted:A lot of delicate flowers.
What part of the body do rational thoughts and common sense reside?
Bears aren't going to fire their OC and keep Fields, giving him his 3rd OC in 4 years. They know that is not a recipe for success. And the prospect of bringing in a Williams or a Maye would be very enticing to prospective OC's, as opposed to finding an offense that can make Fields a better QB than he currently is. I don't think any OC would want that to determine their job security unless you had someone that dealt with a similar talent. Someone who worked with Vick or Lamar.
@PackerHawk posted:Cue up the victim card play and the all too predictable "free speech" excuse machine.
Amusing that they don’t seem to understand what the inference of free speech is in the constitution.
@Pikes Peak posted:Who are these people?
Came dangerously close to infringing on BK’s trademark.
Tshismack and YaYa thinking the same thing.
I just won $20.
@Goalline posted:Came dangerously close to infringing on BK’s trademark.
Who is this BK of which you speak?
All I know is that the Pack is the playoffs and they get an extra 2nd rounder from the Rodgers trade to try to fix whatever needs they may still have going in next season. The saga is over and from the Packers perspective, I think it’s had a happy ending.
I don’t think Rodgers has CTE or any other new brain issue. He’s always been a different kind if guy, one who disowned his own family many years ago. Even as a younger guy, if anyone joked around about him or criticized him, he took those things very poorly and could be quite cruel in his responses. I remember him skewering Ron Jaworski in the press just as he was emerging as a star. Rodgers has a good side but he’s also had a cruel vindictive side and now that he’s had a National platform, we’ve seen it present itself full bore.
Rodgers is just a weird guy and always has been. I think the Pack should consider themselves lucky they were able to at least get some compensation for him after everything that’s transpired with him the past 3 years.
@Tschmack posted:My wife says A Rod is less about being a wacko and more about him suffering from CTE. Any doctor or neurologist want to chime in?
This is what I do as a neuropsychologist - teasing apart neurological and psychological factors and how they contribute to thinking and behavior. While there could be CTE involved that is reducing mental and behavioral self-regulation, leading to impulsivity and an amplification of his pre-existing personality traits, as someone here pointed out, a great many people also believe in the same kinds of things. In Rodgers' case, from a distance, I think the origin of his recent behaviors and thinking patterns is his already-inflated ego, which leads to any emotionally-driven thinking that reinforces his sense of superiority and overwhelms more rational thought and limits on his extreme conspiracy-type beliefs (potentially also inflated by his microdosing of hallucinogens). But the roots of that ego were already there. I think what has amplified all of it is the more recent culture of social media that creates an out of control feed forward loop where crazy ideas, reduced empathy and respect for particular groups of people, and immature self-righteous refusal to accept any limits on one's behavior, are all reinforced and solidified by the banding together of like-minded people who have fallen into the same loop. And as someone here also pointed out, any objections or attempts to refute certain false beliefs by people outside of the tribe only increase the intensity that people hold onto those beliefs and bind that group even more tightly together. So basically, CTE could be a factor, but I think Rodgers' increasingly out of control thinking is a sign of something even more concerning that is occuring on a much larger societal scale. So good luck to us all!
@Pikes Peak posted:Who is this BK of which you speak?
Last heard from he was in the wilds of Tucson...
@Pikes Peak posted:Who is this BK of which you speak?
Oh..... I had taken the original mention of "BK" as a what, not a who.
I was thinking of flame-broiled patties and bacon.
Sorry.
Re: "Kimmel vs Rodgers"
I say let's cut out all the social media/talk show bullshit and settle it like men.
10 rounds and light gloves.
Sell that on PPV, and I'm in. I would even pay a premium to see that!
All profits generated can be donated to a children's charity.
Kimmel can have Corolla in his corner. Rodgers is set with McAfee.
Or.... it can be set up as a WWE event. They can hit each other with chairs, and crash each other through tables! I don't care who "wins", just let 'em beat the crap out of each other.
Hell, they can have either one as the Owl halftime show!
