In reading the articles, columns and comments on the State Journal today I found quite a bit of blame on Barry and his egotistic overbearing management style. Is Barruh our Jerruh?
I would love to see Aranda stay but I don't think it's very likely unless Alvarez makes him the head coach, and I'd guess he'd be way down on the list of candidates.
Who stays and who goes? I think you can divide the coaches up into two groups:
Group One (coaches that either came to Wisconsin from Utah State or would be considered west coast guys)
-Dave Aranda - Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
-Andy Ludwig - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
-Bill Busch - Safeties
-Chad Kauha'aha'a - Defensive Line
-T.J. Woods - Offensive Line
Group Two (coaches that didn't come to Wisconsin from Utah State and would be considered midwest or east coast guys)
-Chris Beatty - Wide Receivers
-Thomas Brown - Running Backs
-Jeff Genyk - Tight Ends/Special Teams Coordinator
-Ben Strickland - Cornerbacks
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/285418481.html
More candidates listed by the Journal-Sentinel:
âĒ Dave Clawson (Head Coach at Wake Forest)
âĒ Greg Schiano (Former Head Coach at Rutgers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
âĒ Mario Cristobal (Offensive Line Coach at Alabama)
Schiano? I don't know.
Anyway, sure looks to be a hit on the program, unfortunately.
Maybe Barry has learned something about himself, too. Maybe he knows he might have to do more delegating or be more "hands off" of the program.
I don't know how other AD's do it in high profile Big Time D1 programs, but I think Barry is doing a great job!
I wonder how often players ask their AD to coach them in a bowl game after a coach bolts?
In a surprising development, 4-star running back Jordan Stevenson just flipped his commitment from Texas to Wisconsin.
Hard to figure after all the drama in Madison yesterday, but it just goes to show that nothing is ever predictable when it comes to football recruiting.
This is also very good news for Bucky. The Badgers already had one running back commitment for 2015, Davon Crookshank, but rumors are flying that his grades might cause him to decommit.
De-committed yesterday which surprised many down here.
I'm now a badger RBU#2 I'm blessed
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
I wonder how often players ask their AD to coach them in a bowl game after a coach bolts?
Not something WI wants to be known as setting precedent for.
Too late
At least twice. Kirk Herbstreit is reporting that Barry will coach the team at the Outback Bowl.
Originally Posted by PackerJoe:
In a surprising development, 4-star running back Jordan Stevenson just flipped his commitment from Texas to Wisconsin.
Hard to figure after all the drama in Madison yesterday, but it just goes to show that nothing is ever predictable when it comes to football recruiting.
This is also very good news for Bucky. The Badgers already had one running back commitment for 2015, Davon Crookshank, but rumors are flying that his grades might cause him to decommit.
Will he bring Charlie Strong with him? One can dream.
He knows the RB carries and yards won't be sucked up by some QB now. Wisconsin has been a great place for RBS to come and make a name, especially if you want a shot at the NFL.
Originally Posted by PackerJoe:
In a surprising development, 4-star running back Jordan Stevenson just flipped his commitment from Texas to Wisconsin.
Hard to figure after all the drama in Madison yesterday, but it just goes to show that nothing is ever predictable when it comes to football recruiting.
This is also very good news for Bucky.
Considering Flash Gordon is going pro, not too surprising.
Who is the last Starting WI RB who didn't get drafted?
I don't believe PJ White got drafted, but I could be rong on that one. I'm pretty sure John Clay didn't get drafted. I think he went to Pittsburgh as a UDFA and didn't make the cut.
One thing I was talking about with someone recently is despite the litany of top running backs in Madison, almost none of them have ever done a thing in the NFL. Perhaps the best guy in the pros was Terrell Fletcher, and he was more of a third down back/kick returner type. Michael Bennett had a couple of good years as well. Other than that, not much.
No Ron Dayne???
Bust.
I had forgotten about PJ Hill, and you're right on Clay, I thought he had been a late-round flier by Pittsburgh.
Dayne had a pretty decent career of seven years, Fletcher eight, Aaron Stecker had 10 and Michael Bennett stuck around for 11. Dayne had a lot of mileage but had some success in Houston in a ZBS, Hill and Clay didn't really have pro speed/quicks though.
PJ Hill is easy to forget. Almost as easy to forget as the Immortal Carl McCullough from Cretin-Derham.
Other than those couple of years by Bennett with the Queens, though, none of those guys was ever a bell cow for a team. Dayne never even got to 800 yards in a season.
That's why IMHO UW is an OL school, not necessarily a RB school, at least when you look at who has done what in the NFL. There are Bucky OL on rosters all over the league.
Stevenson has a stop-start acceleration that will be fun to watch.
Carl McCullough, oy vay, I remember what a supposed coup that was when he signed with Wisconsin and never amounted to squat.
Yeah, their O-lineman track record is pretty darned solid.
Darell Bevell... Come coach for Barry!
Bevell would be a good hire, but I think a NFL head job comes his way this next off-season.
I still maintain that Dayne would have been much better in the pros IF they used him like they did in college as the feature back. He did his damage by pounding on defenses and then also had enough speed to break a big run when they were tired of being pounded on. He had a lot of miles on him, so he may not have lasted long anyway...
But they tried to make him a short-yardage power back and that was NOT his game. He needed volume of carries to be successful, not a couple here and there in short yards or goal line situation.
Originally Posted by JJSD:
PJ Hill is easy to forget. Almost as easy to forget as the Immortal Carl McCullough from Cretin-Derham.
Other than those couple of years by Bennett with the Queens, though, none of those guys was ever a bell cow for a team. Dayne never even got to 800 yards in a season.
That's why IMHO UW is an OL school, not necessarily a RB school, at least when you look at who has done what in the NFL. There are Bucky OL on rosters all over the league.
You could also argue historically that UW has been a better school for NFL WR and TE than RBs. Chris Chambers and Lee Evans were Pro Bowl level WRs. At least 6-7 other WRs made NFL rosters during the last decade. Owen Daniels, Lance Kendricks, Garrett Graham, and Travis Beckum all played at least 4-5 years as NFL TEs. That's a pretty good track record for a school with a reputation for just handing the ball off.
Dayne had 1220 carries, that's a lot of hits. Running backs can have a short shelf life,
Originally Posted by Maynard:
I still maintain that Dayne would have been much better in the pros IF they used him like they did in college as the feature back. He did his damage by pounding on defenses and then also had enough speed to break a big run when they were tired of being pounded on. He had a lot of miles on him, so he may not have lasted long anyway...
But they tried to make him a short-yardage power back and that was NOT his game. He needed volume of carries to be successful, not a couple here and there in short yards or goal line situation.
The problem with Dayne was that he was no threat as receiver out of the backfield. He got almost 1000 NFL carries and had 57 receptions (at 6 yards/reception and no receiving TDs) in his career. It was a pretty easy offensive tendency to key on if he was in the game. Eddie Lacy, a similarly sized back has 472 career carries and already has 71 receptions (9 yards/reception including 4 for TDs).
Look at Dayne's OL at Wisconsin his senior year. Every single starter on the OL played in the NFL.
| Left Tackle | Chris McIntosh |
| Left Guard | Bill Ferrario |
| Center | Casey Rabach |
| Right Guard | Dave Costa |
| Right Tackle | Mark Tauscher |
As did his QB in Brooks Bollinger and one of the WR's in Chris Chambers. Dayne was backed up by Slow Eddie Faulkner and Michael Bennett.
That was a pretty stacked offense.
Originally Posted by PackerJoe:
In a surprising development, 4-star running back Jordan Stevenson just flipped his commitment from Texas to Wisconsin.
Hard to figure after all the drama in Madison yesterday, but it just goes to show that nothing is ever predictable when it comes to football recruiting.
This is also very good news for Bucky. The Badgers already had one running back commitment for 2015, Davon Crookshank, but rumors are flying that his grades might cause him to decommit.
Maybe, he doesn't like Anderson? Curious move.
Football expert and sconnie ex-pat:
@AaronNagler: Mike Sherman for Wisconsin. Make it happen.
âĒ Look for University of Pittsburgh football coach Paul Cryst â a former player, tight ends coach and offensive coordinator at Wisconsin â to be named the Badgersâ new head coach after the departure of Gary Andersen for the Oregon State job on Wednesday.
Attribution?
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
Look at Dayne's OL at Wisconsin his senior year. Every single starter on the OL played in the NFL.
| Left Tackle | Chris McIntosh |
| Left Guard | Bill Ferrario |
| Center | Casey Rabach |
| Right Guard | Dave Costa |
| Right Tackle | Mark Tauscher |
Didn't he also have The Hebrew Hammer as a full back? For the life of me I can't remember his name tho.
Heck, Wisconsin's had a lot of QBs stick in the pros long enough to be vested also: Bevell, Bollinger, Sorgi and probably Tolzien, though Wilson's the only front-line starter of the group.
ammo.
Matt Bernstein.
I looked it up...and then I remembered.
Originally Posted by cuqui:
Football expert and sconnie ex-pat:
@AaronNagler: Mike Sherman for Wisconsin. Make it happen.
I would renounce any association with my alma mater if that happened.
And I would kill you to further the renunciation.
Has anybody ever used the word "renunciation" in X4 history?
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