If GB goes to Carolina and plays well, moves the ball on the ground, adds a wrinkle we haven't seen on offense, and loses. I'll view this game the way I viewed the Atlanta loss in Atlanta in 2010. Carolina doesn't concern me if Green Bay shows they are sorting things out. 

If Green Bay goes to Carolina and runs the exact same offense we saw last night and loses. Panic at the disco.  

I'm not looking any farther than Carolina though. No need to to. IMO how the rest of the year plays out will be effected by how GB rebounds in Carolina after getting curbed stomped in Denver last night. 

 I fully agree Chilli

wasn't that when Doald Driver got up and told the offence, that if we don't start playing better, they will "run us all off". and then went on and beat Dallas the next week?

Yes, exactly.

He's kind of becoming this growing cult figure in the bay area (for the second time in his career). He's playing great and becoming this mythical locker room presence. The kids (and even vets) talk in glowing terms about what it's like having him around. 

I have no earhly effing idea how Charles Woodson is leading the NFL in Interceptions after turning 39 three weeks ago. I mean, he really did separate his shoulder earlier this year and then kept playing. 

But my God do I miss him in Green Bay. And yeah, he's one of the most remarkable football players I've ever watched in my lifetime. 

Gotta be HGH.....& I don't care.

Wish he was still in Green Bay but there is something to him leaving. 

I remember he was unhappy with the defensive scheme &/or our DC. 

Wasn't much about it in the media, just 1 or 2 little articles. 

C-Wood stayed above all of it & kept professional

Vernon Davis traded to Denver.  Damn, GB could have used him.

The dream has died

Green Bay - The following is a summary of coach Mike McCarthy's Monday press conference:

• (On film) I would have hoped it would have been better. Biggest thing is not to over-react. We have good players, good schemes. Thing that bothered me is that when you're a fast starting team you play with a lot of energy. I wasn't too concerned because I thought their surge was expected. But I thought we didn't match it.
• (On coming from behind) You need those experiences to galvanize your team. This is what you need as a football team.
• (On being creative offensively) I think it represents frustration. The way we get players opportunities, the decision-making at the line of scrimmage, I think that's frustration for players and coaches. That's part of not having a good day. When you're at 50 plays two weeks in a row, scheme isn't the issue.
• (On scrambling plays) I've never relied on scrambling phase. It's the reaction between the offense and the defense. It's not the way we operate. It's a part of our passing game. Spend a lot of time on it. We're excellent at it. Our receivers are good at it.
• (On receivers getting open) I don't think... that's a blanket statement. Good defense, talented defense. They matched up well against us. They kept Aaron in the pocket and decrease the time clock of the play.
• (On defense playing empty sets) I don't think it factored in the Denver game. San Diego emptied and then brought the back back. Denver was more empty based on situation.
• (On pass rush) When the QB is throwing on time, I put the larget part of the struggles on defense on the running game. When the QB is throwing to his No. 1 read off his back foot, that tells you there's a play-action part of it. We need to stop the run.
• (On acquisitions) Player personnel department is on it. I'm aware of what's out there. I have nothing to report.
• (On Richard Rodgers) He's being asked to do a lot. I think that's something we have to look at it.

Green Bay - The following is a summary of defensive coordinator Dom Capers' Monday press conference:

• (Opening statement) We've been a fast-starting defense. Our play style wasn't what it has been. After that first series they went down and scored on us twice. We have to look at that. We have an opponent coming up with a totally different style of offense. We have to play better against the run. We had some really good run plays. We ended up giving up five explosive runs, two of them were for touchdowns. To me, the biggest culprit was the fact they were able to break some big runs. Our goal was to disrupt Manning and get him off his spot. We know if he can step up he's got a good touch and he's got great receivers. We weren't able to do that. We ended up giving up 27 points which is the most this year. What we have to do is come back on Wednesday and go back to work. When we put our 'must" up on Wednesday we usually meet that. We did not do that on Sunday. We have to critique ourselves. We have to get back to our play style. We're playing an undefeated team with a versatile offense.
• (On last two games) Run was not a factor in the San Diego game as much. We were playing a hot quarterback. I thought we did a good job in the red zone. Last night we didn't do as good against the run. When people can do that, helps their play-action game. If they can keep either or, it's harder to disrupt the quarterback.
• (On Broncos energy) Anytime you're on the road and if the team can have success early it's the nature of the game. It's a game of momentum. That's why we talk about striking quick. Before last week we had scored 66 and given up 9 in the first quarte.r I thought we had good energy in the first series. The next series, they came out and had a 16-yard run and then hit us with a 30-yard pass. We lost Sam and then they punched the ball in. Then next series, they put together another nice series. That hasn't happened a lot to us.
• (Singling up TE) It comes to how much you stop the run. We played man in the first half and then we went to zone in the secoond half and then they started hitting behind our zones. We've played against some good tight ends.
• (On Matthews injury) Everybody knows Clay is important to us. He had to go out and play a couple of plays. I've not talked to anybody today about where he is today. I thought he came back and didn't notice a significant difference.
• (On Hayward inside) We would have played Casey inside some, but we lost Sam. Damarious went out and battled. He's just got to continue and work. We're going to need him to continue to play well.
• (On Hayward) We think Casey can play both. He has more experience inside. When we're healthy he's played inside. We've had Sam and Damarious outside. The series they scored in the first after Sam went out, Casey had to go outside. We'll have to see where we are and where he is.
• (On Jake Ryan for Palmer) You're looking for a little spark from an area. We wanted to communicate with Nate and next series we put him out there.
• (On rush on Manning) I've played against Peyton enough that I know what he can do. When he got it out we were going with a five-man pressure. He wasn't going to let that beat him. If he can get in a rhythm... they have a talented team. Two good receivers, very good after the catch.
• (On run defense) I'm confident we can play good run defense. Most of it is guys getting out of a gap. That happens in this scheme, they're a sideways, cutting team. You have to play with a high tempo. I give them credit. They got going early.
• (On Raji, Perry, etc... snap counts) Good first step. Hopefully made it through and will feel better and we can increase that.

Green Bay - The following is a summary of offensive coordinator Edgar Bennett's Monday press conference:

• (How can the receivers get more open) When you go back and look at it, I'm not at liberty to get into scheme, but what I will say is we understand and we know what needs to happen to be more successful. When you're accustomed to winning, frustration is involved. You look at yourself as coaches in the mirror first. Let's grow and move on.
• (On man-to-mans) We have seen a lot more one-high man and press on the outside. But you'll also see two-shell. Majority of time has been one-high man. We get those looks we have to win those. We have to focus on situational football and make sure the next time we're ready.
• (Odd not to see two-man shell) It's not surprising. Certain teams played us one-high man. You compare last year to this eyar, maybe last couple of weeks it's been more press, one-high. You have to be able to run the ball against a seven- or eight-man box. We have a plan, we have to execute it.
• (On adjustments to make more explosive) You go back and look at what we've been able to accomplish and we have been explosive. We haven't been consistent. We need to go back and self-scout and make the necessary adjustents and corrections. We can put up the numbers and points we've put up in the past. We need to grow from it. It all starts in the classroom.
• (On players) Our players are good enough, our scheme is good enough. We'll continue to improve.
• (On Richard Rodgers) He's carrying a load. We have two young guys. Those guys will have more opportunities.
• (On bye week scouting) Our self scout is on a weekly basis. We put  lot of effort in. What do we look like on tape. The goal is how do we improve. The situation now as far as losing in Denver, we'll grow. We'll learn from this.
• (On WR Jeff Janis) Like all of our young guys they ahve to make most of the opportunities. He did that against San Diego. When that comes again he has to make the most of those opportunities.

The Vernon Davis hatred is strong in the boss. 

Of everything Ciqui posted (thanks) this one was a puzzler. 

"When you're at 50 plays 2 weeks in a row, scheme isn't the issue" 

They try to be at 70 plays every game.

WTF were they doing out there?!?! Figuring out what restaurant they were headed to??

To play so bad after the bye, inexcusable

Rivers and Manning are not exactly mobile.  As for mobile QBs, I think our D has done a better job.

Vernon would be our Ticket to the big show.

re: McCarthy's comment on 50 plays... I can agree with that to an extent. 2 of 8 on 3rd down is a factor where we can't say if it was scheme or execution. Based on the overall listless play I'm leaning toward execution.

Great to see that Janis! is still in the mix

Per John McKay. On what he thought of his team's execution: "I'm in favor of it."

I thought the same thing, ummm really?

That's my question. Is MM pointing at execution? Seems like the reasonable answer. 

Of course scheme is not he issue, execution is.  Who puts in the scheme?  Who executes?

  Very convenient .

Just once I'd like to see him in the slot and run a deep seam or skinny post. Aren't any slot corners or safeties that can run with him. Of course Aaron wouldn't throw it to him but he's either gonna be wide open or drag coverage with him.

Janis! is going to make some consequential plays from scrimmage before this season is over.

Maybe in a scrimmage

Last time they ran a go route to him (Chiefs) he ran out of bounds.  So, at least he won't do that in the middle of the field.

That field is going to look like a tractor pull for Sunday.

@Michael_Cohen13: Ron Zook said he saw Quinten Rollins today at the facility. Rollins indicated that he would be OK.

Yup, our potent quick strike O will be hampered

I still have the dream Cuqui. I'm with yah bud.

The Packers Have Problems

OMG!  What a bad pass by Luck.

From everything I've seen tonight, I see no reason (other than turnovers) why the Panthers will lose next week.

Their defense is dominant & they smother WR's. They have an amazing ILB in Luke K.

Josh Norman is better than any DB that Denver has.

They rush the passer every bit as well as Denver did last night.

They run the ball great with their RB or their QB or an end-around with a WR.

They have an amazing TE in Olsen. How many yards receiving will he have?!??!

So please explain to me why we will see anything different than we saw last night out of Green Bay? 

...because?

But if we do win, then that will be some good medicine.

Because MM just said the scheme Isn't the issue?   

I'm not feeling confident.   Newton looks good, that D looks good.   They are an all around good team thats playing with confidence and attitude. 

And that's exactly the team we need to beat. 

Besides, I'm getting sick of this fking candle smell and zen music.  I need some rock n roll!