Packers sign James Jones (was Giants release)

IMHO, what sealed the deal for Jones coming back was the INT Tolzien threw, where White stopped running on the route. Imagine that AR saw that & I imagine that as a result he would never even look in White's direction in a real game. 

Contract terms?

       
       
That is apparently the case. Keep the strong contributions to X4 coming, brilliant as always.

White is and always has been a marginal player. Rather than any one play, I trace it back to the failure of Boykin to develop as anticipated. I believe the organization viewed him as the replacement to JJ and obviously it didn't work out.

If Jones can be solid #3 it's a good pick up. "Rent a vet for one year" tells me TT knows the window for 2nd Super Bowl won't stay open forever and he is willing to take action. Good sign. 

Jones caught 14 TD's in 2012 when some other guys were injured, does not have a major injury history himself, and is not all that old for a WR (31).  They are very fortunate to get him back in my opinion.

Most common criticisms of this signing:

 

Jones is too slow: Well Jones was never a speed guy, so it's not like he's going to lose it over night.  He was a bigger guy who ran good routes and had great hands (outside of some very, poorly timed concentration lapses).  

 

His stats were awful, especially YPC: Ummmm, he was playing for the f**king Raiders!  That offense had no talent on it.  Seriously, look it up.  No talent at RB, WR and a rookie QB (2nd round, no less).  Jones should never have been the best player on the offense.  In GB, he won't.  

 

If two terrible teams cut him, he must suck:  The Raiders/Giants cutting him, doesn't affect his worth.  Those two teams are rebuilding and have no shot at a championship.  What's the point in have a 31 year old #3 WR on your roster when can get young guys more playing time?  

 

So yeah, I think it's a good signing.  James Jones for $10m over 3 years made no sense last year, but James Jones at the minimum with Jordy out makes a ton of sense.  Montgomery, Janis and White aren't ready for full time duty; too many holes in their game.  Jones just gives them a reliable target.  And if he has lost it, he'll be gone and TT will only be out the veteran minimum.  

It should not take long to see if TT made a big mistake in signing him.it would be a shame if they let a productive,young player go just so he can show

he is really over the hill.

The Packers will release WR Myles White today, according to a source, to make room for WR James Jones. White had... http://t.co/OEU4vTuURQ

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 7, 2015

 

Or if they let Myles White go

I'll take JJ over White 100 times out of 100. 

So will da Bears make the move and sign White?  Not only for game planning for next Sunday but he would be an upgrade over several of the WR on their current roster. 

If the Packer's scheme allows for the same way Bolden could get so open, JJ should be able to fit that position type.  Big guy.  Good hands (except, as mentioned, the early history of lack of concentration dropsies).  Strong.

Swing and a miss. Better off with the ceiling argument.  Production was there. White's #'s this pre-season: 16catches/157yds/2tds.

 

You can argue that was with scrubs playing.  But it was scrubs that he beat, with backup QB's throwing to him.

White doesn't have much of a ceiling other than #4-5 WR. Again, it took him 3 years to make the team and that was because of an injury. If Jordy never gets hurt, White is cut(he's not eligible for the PS) and nobody would have said a thing

 

I feel for the guy because he kept at it and then finally made the roster only to get cut a day later, but the NFL is a tough business. JJ has more talent than White. GB improved their roster with this move and that's all I care about

 

Now, if only they could finally get an ILB that can move in space and cover...

So it's 4 WR's, 3 TE's, and a OSPR (old slow possession receiver) you have to change the scheme for to get him the ball.  Why not just use the Tight End.

White has another year of PS eligibility. Probably wouldn't be a bad move on his part to go elsewhere for a fresh start.

Miles White is bottom of the roster. Jones steps in as the #3WR. I don't see what all the fuss is about. This really is Aaron Rodgers' call. Who can argue that?

1. "Steps in as the #3"? Really?  I thought he was depth.  If that is true, then ouch.  Really would rather have Montgomery and Janis than Jones as the #3.  At least they can get open and run after the catch,

 

2. Fuss? It's cut-down time, what else is there talk about? 

 

3. Aaron Rodgers made the call?  Where are you getting that?

Myles White couldn't even pull off Whisper Goodman level of camp excitement, him being gone is essentially a Ted Thompson yawn.  

 

 

Tough break for white, but Green Bay needs a contributor in 6 days. if any up the top 3 remaining relievers was lost for even a game it would have destroyed half the playbook. Jones is a threat for a play or two every game.
Jones can beat man coverage by his strength alone, never big for YAC.
If jones or any WR is sucky, they can cut ties with jones and activate Abby.

Yeah Mr. Excitement can.  James Jones breaks into the open field!

 

My god..  I've never seen so much angst over a player with such a limited skill set.

Pistol, unless Myles White is your son, give it up.

 

He's blistering down the sidelines!  One man to beat!!

 

Dude.  I'm going to have an opinion.  Deal with it or boot me.

 

Just because you disagree doesn't make it angst.

I want Charles Johnson back.

 

Strange though, if they value White more than Abby (by having him on the 53 and Abby to PS) won't they cut Abby now and put White on PS?  Hope not, but wouldn't that be logical given their thinking?

       
       
Obviously you were on vacation for the great debate about Jumal Rolle last year?

That's the only thing you ever wrote that made sense. 

My thoughts as well.

 

80 some catches last year as the only legit target and a crap qb.  He can get open.

 

That vs a guy who couldn't crack the roster in 3 years of trying.  The young WR's that actually have talent are still with us.

 

This a no brainer.

       
       
He will never make it through wavers to sign to the practice squad, because according Pistol we just cut the next Jerry Rice

That is EXACTLY what I said!

 

EDIT for the reading comprehension impaired: no it isn't

Well hell yeah if you think James Jones is going to turn into Anquan Bolden,  it's a no-brainer alright.

       
       
That is EXACTLY what he said

They valued White's ability to contribute at the present time and with Abby it's about the upside.

Because Jones will be fulfilling the TE roll in certain sets as well.  Tell me, how is that scheme going to change if it's White, who wouldn't see the field as anything but a #4, or Jones, a player who has already played the #3 in this offense?

 

****ing hilarious.  If MM thought White could play at #3 or even #4 this year he'd be on the roster.  He isn't.  

Bolden was the one with 80+ catches last year (+1,000+ yards to Jones 600), not Jones.

Pistol just needs a scrub to defend.  

 

Next, he's going to write a dissertation on Kim Davis' sound decision making skills.