Harvey--Irma--Maria. ??

This projected path, further south, puts Irma on a likely run into the Gulf, based on historical reference.

bandit posted:

I just read where the Packers donated 100,000 dollars to the Harvey relief fund. Good for them,  me and the Packer Pete are doing the FEMA thing. I will be reliyin on this board for Packer news for next couple weeks

Stay safe, and thank you for helping. 

Irma up to CAT 2 very quickly. Hopefully she turns and fizzles in the north Atlantic.



The last Irma advisory putting it at a CAT 3 storm also indicates a slight track back north.

This will be one to watch...



Then there is this:

Hope is Irma turns hard left this weekend and fizzles into a rain storm over colder Atlantic water. Storms don't go from tropical to Cat 3 in 6 hours. Apparently there is a H pressure front over the SE Atlantic that dictates how far south a system gets pushed before it turns N. Everyone is watching how strong that H pressure front becomes. 

Cavetoad posted:

I threw chunk at JJ Watt's effort.  Great work by a former Badger!

https://www.youcaring.com/vict...rricaneharvey-915053

Jerruh should have donated 10M.  How much of his billion dollar stadium was paid by taxes?

https://www.usatoday.com/story...ne-harvey/622775001/

JJ is just A W E S O M E, and Jerry should give a billion.  What's he worth, at least 10 billion??  A million for these 1%ers is a drop in their billion dollar bucket.  

In the last few days 1,200 people died and 950,000 lost homes from flooding
in Bangladesh. No front page coverage.  A big rain/flood/mudslide in Africa also happened this week.  These events are related, not isolated IMO

Another storm in the Gulf and potential cat 4 headed to Bahamas and East Coast.

To paraphrase Steven Stills.....something's happening here, what it is is pretty clear.

 

Pikes Peak posted:
To paraphrase Steven Stills.....something's happening here, what it is is pretty clear.

 .....   "what it is ain't exactly clear"       (FTFY)

which is true....there's a lot of strange weather happening this year around the world......permanent climate change ?  or normal cyclical patterns occurring? 

...but it sure is nasty.....fires; rains; drought; floods; monsoons;  hurricanes; etc.....definitely "there's something happening here"

For What It's Worth

 

Pikes Peak posted:

In the last few days 1,200 people died and 950,000 lost homes from flooding
in Bangladesh. No front page coverage.  A big rain/flood/mudslide in Africa also happened this week.  These events are related, not isolated IMO

Another storm in the Gulf and potential cat 4 headed to Bahamas and East Coast.

To paraphrase Steven Stills.....something's happening here, what it is is pretty clear.

 

We can always find other kids to sew running shoes and faux designer fashion lines.

Normal patterns? Uneducated head in the sand blather.  There is nothing comparable to the severity of the increase in CO2 levels and warming we've seen in the last century.  The closest comparable was the Permian great extinction when volcanoes raised CO2.  And we're, yes humans, changing things 100x faster.  The **** isn't going to hit the fan, it already started at least a decade ago.  More CO2 means more trapped heat means increase in climate volatility.  No real debate remains.  If you think there is you're not only ignorant, you're an asshole for believing there is because it just delays any action to fix it.

DH13 posted:

We've had 2 100yr storms and a 500yr storm in the last 12 years in the US alone.  This is not normal but unfortunately may be the new normal. 

Complete rubbish. That is loony AGW people pulling that 100 year and 500 year stuff out of thin air.

 

Camille, 1969. Just one for ya.

 

DH13 posted:

Normal patterns? Uneducated head in the sand blather.  There is nothing comparable to the severity of the increase in CO2 levels and warming we've seen in the last century.  The closest comparable was the Permian great extinction when volcanoes raised CO2.  And we're, yes humans, changing things 100x faster.  The **** isn't going to hit the fan, it already started at least a decade ago.  More CO2 means more trapped heat means increase in climate volatility.  No real debate remains.  If you think there is you're not only ignorant, you're an asshole for believing there is because it just delays any action to fix it.

...tell us how you really feel.  You saying there's no debate is an inane statement.

There's always going to be debate.  Why do you want to shut down debate?

I don't think anyone disagrees that our climate is changing....but to what degree? and why?  We've had plenty of  natural disasters occur at the same time around the world before.

R-E-L-A-X.  

JFC.  Yes, relax.  No urgency, why do anything about it.  F'ing morons.  No, there is no credible debate.  There isn't one theory, paper, data set or wild ass guess that exists that has been peer reviewed and supported by any third party that suggests we are NOT the cause.  It's all noise paid for by the powers that be that stand to lose at the idea they're economic interests are at stake.

100 year and 500 year stuff out of thin air?  Good god Francis.  Check the meteorological records of what constitutes those designations and the timeline they happened in.  Do I have to do the math for you in crayon?

You know there is "debate" about the earth being flat/round too, right?  Same level of denial.  But if you couldn't give 2 ****s about the world we're trying to live in and the world we're leaving behind us when we're gone, have it and **** off.

I do appreciate your passion about the topic, DH13.   

But, if I only have 2 s***s to give.....then, I'm giving to the idea that our world is full of radical terrorists and if we don't do something about it right now, we won't have to bother worrying about climate change. 

If we don't do something about the lack of law and order soon, then we won't have to worry about the climate anyway.   

If we don't do something soon about the lack of decency in debating issues and learning that it's OK to disagree without name-calling or violence....then why bother with the climate.

That being said, I do appreciate your voice and determination on the issue of a climactic climate.  Climate change is an issue that shouldn't be ignored.

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

But, if I only have 2 s***s to give.....then, I'm giving to the idea that our world is full of radical terrorists and if we don't do something about it right now, we won't have to bother worrying about climate change. 

If we don't do something about the lack of law and order soon, then we won't have to worry about the climate anyway.   

 

Pretty sure I'm going to have to throw away my computer as my CPU is totally brain damaged now.  

      Way to take it to that "stupid" level, Hank.   And to waste 3 posts to do it.   I think everyone here knew you could do it.  Good job!

But You forgot to include the last part....

If we don't do something soon about the lack of decency in debating issues and learning that it's OK to disagree without name-calling or violence....then why bother with the climate.

or maybe you didn't forget because you already knew.  

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