Injuries

I can't think of a single instance when Wolf wasted a draft pick on a stopgap. There are a lot of panicky folks out there looking to sacrifice the future for today.

People like to bring up the Andre Rison acquisition in 96 when talking about the WR situation now, in that TT should trade for a WR like Wolf did during that SB run. Rison was actually waived by Jacksonville. Wolf gave up nothing to rent Rison the rest of that season.

Wolf traded a 4th to Buffalo in 1998 for stopgap running back Darick Holmes.

Exactly, Fond Du. 

 Not strictly a stopgap. I think they meant to keep him, but he kinda sucked.

Reggie Bush broke a fibula in 2010, trying to get stats, etc but don't have a lot of time. Would be curious to see how much he missed.

TT navigates the dangers of the cap.  Wolf didn't and even admitted as such when he retired, stating he felt the game passing him by.  That is the overarching difference between the two.

Ted has had the opportunity to help the Packers during the season when injuries hit. He could have had Marshawn Lynch and he could have had Gonzalez when KC was getting rid of him. Those two playes would have been well worth what their teams were asking. I love TT and how he has built the team but sometimes he outsmarts himself.

Seth Joyner and Robert Brooks are exhibits A and B in that testimony. He actually admitted that he felt he "owed" it to Brooks to give him a contract, despite the fact that he was injured and past his prime. TT would NEVER do that...the closest was letting Driver stick around for a season after winning the dancing show.

They won the SB the year they didn't get Lynch. TT had a deal in place for Gonzalez, but KC changed the terms at the 11th hour, and TT rightfully said "forget that"

Sounds like it was the Chiefs outsmarting themselves, not TT.

Bush broke his fibula in Week 2, returned Week 12. So, he missed 8 games + bye week. That sounds about right for Cobb's timetable, since most said 4 weeks is best case, with 8 weeks being the longest

Didn't he trade a high pick for Keith Jackson at the end of his career? That was sort of a stop gap move.

 

I have no problem with the draft and develop approach. But when you find yourself devastated with injuries and potentially starting Nelson, Boykin, and practice player TBD, I think you can explore shipping out a conditional 5th for a guy like Kenny Britt. It won't blow up the whole draft and develop philosophy.

The tough part is you have to MAKE the playoffs for these guys to have a chance to contribute. It's going to be a tough task, and if they make it, MM should be coach of the freakin' year.

No way Jones plays next week.  

 

Glad it wasn't a tear for Cobb.

 

Perfect time on the schedule to see CLE. 

 

 Jackson was not a stopgap. They weren't plugging him in to fill an injury. Wolf was hoping to keep him long term, but he quit prematurely.

 

I think giving up a pick for a guy like Kenny Britt goes against the concept of drafting and developing. You are giving up a pick for a guy you will never keep for more than half a season. Giving up the future for the present.

 

Giving up a pick for a guy like Gordon, I totally get, but Brit is a super turd.

I think regularly giving up picks for players goes against the concept of draft and develop. But do it once when your team is stripped of its weapons? I don't think so.

San Francisco is mostly a draft and develop team...didn't stop them from trading a pick for Boldin. Even TT is willing to deal draft picks for talent...did it with Matthews.

 

I'm not proposing filling every injury hole with a trade for a veteran. But when you're this limited and it's going to be a dog fight for the division and/or that wild card to give you a live card for a ring, I think you can make an exception to the rule.

I get your point. Semantics. Maybe this Tavarres KIng chap is the real deal and he costs nothing. I don't want to give up a draft pick for a guy who will be around for only 10 games. TT needs to find the guy who will stay beyond that cup of coffee. I'd give up a higher pick for that guy.

About time Datone Jones steps up and contributes before he's paralyzed taking out the trash.

Ted has spent a high draft pick on a guy who didn't give the Pack a full 16 games before...

 

He was the best of a bad group (Travis Jervey, Raymont Harris etc) until Dorsey Levens recovered from that broken leg. I remember being pleasantly surprised by his performance.

Broken or fractured fibula? Makes a difference in the expected recovery time. IIRC Bush was initially thought to have a fracture (4-6 weeks) and actually had a broken fib, thus the 8+ weeks for his return. If it is truly a fracture for Cobb, 4 weeks would not be a surprise.

We all know Cobb's is going to be bad and take a good long while (6 weeks? 8 weeks? It's going to be an eternity no matter what), I'm more concerned about what's going on with Perry and Jones at this point.

Breaking the fibula infinitely belter than tearing an acl.

 

How do I know?

 

Done both.

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131014/PKR07/310140331/Christl-Baranczyk-analysis-Injuries-rarely-doom-season?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

 

TT's history says he isn't going to spend a high draft pick (rounds 1-3) to get somebody in, and especially if Cobb is returning this year.  There was an article in today's Press-Gazette that said "Except for an extremely short list of players on each team — some of the game’s brighter minds in player personnel have insisted the list is limited to only a few rare players in the entire league — most everyone else is easily replaced."

http://www.packersnews.com/art...s-rarely-doom-season

 

 

TT may very well subscribe to this mindset, which means that unless the guy he is getting is a difference maker (ie, a Gonzalez or a Lynch) he isn't interested and would rather go with his backup guys on the roster--and even if he is interested, he is not willing to pay much.

Packerboi asked:

quote:

Do any of these fu***** drink milk?!?!

Rodgers does, but he also likes to keep it from children.  What a nasty POS. 

Children of particular descent, at that. Reporting this jerk to Sharpton.

Kid probably has cancer too.

 

@alonzohighsmith

@RobDemovsky it was a great long day actually and looking at jar as filled to the top!!

 

 

 

Maybe he's lactose intolerant. It can be pretty common with those people.

 

Haters.

 

“If we don't get any sacks next week, I'm going to tell you (it was) because we told those guys not to sack the quarterback because we might injure somebody,” Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers said. 

Rodgers and his porn stache. 

Breast porn?

        There are probably female posters here who find that porn stache sexy, Dr. Bob. 

Originally Posted by Blair Kiel:

what an athlete. 

I can't decide if his breast/gut region looks more like a rhinoceros or JarJar Binks.

didn't Holmy get blamed a bit for Levins injury?

 

I thought Holmy was going to "teach Dorsey a lesson" by running him ragged in his first game back.  Well, it worked!