Or maybe Barry was hungry so he stole a sole.
Cleat keeper, sole stealer.
Hey, it’s the off-season.
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Cleat keeper, sole stealer......sounds like a Pat Benatar song.
@Thunderbird posted:Cleat keeper, sole stealer......sounds like a Pat Benatar song.
"Cleat keeper, sole stealer, give me back my Love." - for when Love gets rushed to the hospital.
This whole sole stealing concept has you all floundering.
Funny nobody has mentioned Rex Ryan yet
Cleat keeper is what the equipment managers called him.
@GBFanForLife posted:Joe Barry steals people's shoes?
Watching Barry's presser from today ....again with the player nicknames ....Ja ; Stokesy; CV (Valentine) ; Tmoore; JO (Jonathan Owens); Dre; ....definitely trying to be a "players coach"!
@Thunderbird posted:Cleat keeper, sole stealer......sounds like a Pat Benatar song.
Only when sung by George Steinbrenner.
Why am I not encouraged by this:
Packers DC Joe Barry: "I think if you stay the same, you get passed by. The 2023 Green Bay Packers is gonna be completely different than the 2022 Green Bay Packers. There's no doubt."
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 7, 2023
@packerboi posted:Why am I not encouraged by this:
Packers DC Joe Barry: "I think if you stay the same, you get passed by. The 2023 Green Bay Packers is gonna be completely different than the 2022 Green Bay Packers. There's no doubt."
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 7, 2023
Because the defensive coordinator stayed the same….still the sh*tstain, Joe Dingle Barry.
The dude has no excuse this year.
8 first round draft choices. Anything less than a top 10 defense is 100% unacceptable
A performance like last year's game 1 vs. The Vikings is a fire able offense. The stubbornness to refuse to put Jaire on Jefferson in Game 1. That's Dom Capers at the end level bad.
Then, In the 2nd game vs. Minnesota.....Justin Jefferson 1 catch for 15 yards. With Cuzzins throwing 3 INT's. The defense we saw on Jan 1 2023....had better be the defense we see all season long. There is no excuse
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If he fails, it says more about the head coach than Joe Barry.
@michiganjoe posted:If he fails, it says more about the head coach than Joe Barry.
More? Perhaps. MLF is an offensive coach but if he has full autonomy to hire and fire the DC then the DC has zero excuse this year and I am certain that MLF knows his own decisions are on the hot seat
I just know this much..... If Bill belichick had the talent on this defense, there would be very few teams scoring more than 17 points on the Packers
the weak part of the Packers defense is the safetys. Every team knows that. Hopefully Barry knows that and uses a scheme that will not allow the offenses to sit back and wait for long plays to develop and take advantage of that.. But I dont have a lot of confidence that is going to happen.
If Bury uses Savage correctly, the "weakest" part of the D won't be that bad.
2 ways to defend the deep pass. Outstanding safety's or outstanding pass rush. Gary, Enagbare, Hollins, Van Ness, Clark and Cox have to get home
If they, the DL and OLB, play correctly Fields will become part of Soldier Field.
@packerboi posted:Why am I not encouraged by this:
Packers DC Joe Barry: "I think if you stay the same, you get passed by. The 2023 Green Bay Packers is gonna be completely different than the 2022 Green Bay Packers. There's no doubt."
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 7, 2023
This is a very small clip of the response he had to, I believe Jason Wilde. Barry also said we can't figure out what works by week 10. To me he sounds like he knows he is coaching to keep his job and there will be no excuses.
I think Barry knows what to do, but has trouble pulling the trigger when needed.
Someone needs to make him a sandwich so he's primed and ready.
Put me in the "gotta see it to believe it" column - like a certain guy name "Thomas" we all heard about.
That said, I think Barry (after talking with the players) got with MLF and Gute after the season. They "adjusted" (a term I use advisedly) the scheme and drafted a couple components for it up front in the persons of Woodson and Brooks. Will it work once the game planning starts? That is the question. But the players are excited. So we have that going for us.
Highest pressure rate in the NFL over the last 2 seasons:
— Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) September 8, 2023
1. Rashan Gary - 19.9%
2. Micah Parsons - 19.2%
3. Nick Bosa - 17.1%
This bag of dicks has buzz killed so many weekends...
Keeping Joe Barry is just a waste of a year that could have been used to start the defensive re-build.
Instead, we get another year of "Packer" defense. Oh joy.
@SteveLuke posted:Keeping Joe Barry is just a waste of a year that could have been used to start the defensive re-build.
Instead, we get another year of "Packer" defense. Oh joy.
Want another kick in the nuts?
Mike McCarthy has the best defense in the NFL.
The Cowboys have outscored their opponents 50-0 with 8 minutes left in the first half of the Jets game.
If McCarthy wins a second Super Bowl because he was gifted with s dominant defense (and Dan Quinn), I’m going up blow chunks.
He was pretty young when he won his first SB. Maybe he's actually learned some things from his failures. Maybe someone can point MLF toward those lessons.
MM is a good coach as much as some of you want to vilify him. Should he have won more Super Bowls in Green Bay? Absolutely.... but such as life in the NFL.
I'm happy for him. Cowboys defense is legit as long as Parsons stays healthy
MLF was pissed in his presser. Asked about our defense he said "you saw what happened out there .....they shredded us".
@DH13 posted:He was pretty young when he won his first SB. Maybe he's actually learned some things from his failures. Maybe someone can point MLF toward those lessons.
Mac hired his buddy Mike Nolan to be his DC with the Cowboys and had a historically bad defense in Mac's first year in Big D.
After year 1, Jerry Jones immediately stepped in and fired Nolan. Jerry then hired Dan Quinn to coordinate the D. Mac was not much involved in that decision-making process.
Maybe if GB had someone in a position to force Mac to fire Dom after it became clear Dom was past his prime then Mac's own time in GB would have ended a bit better.
I mean, so what MLF. They got shredded. What the fuck has your buddy Joe Dingleberry done to demonstrate confidence? Nothing.
At some point, the hammer needs to drop. If you won’t do it, then maybe you need to go.
@FLPACKER posted:MLF was pissed in his presser. Asked about our defense he said "you saw what happened out there .....they shredded us".
MLF should only be pissed at himself. He hitched his trailer to this train wreck. Barry has been a failure as a DC in the past. There is no reason to expect improvement.
@SteveLuke posted:Mac hired his buddy Mike Nolan to be his DC with the Cowboys and had a historically bad defense in Mac's first year in Big D.
After year 1, Jerry Jones immediately stepped and fired Nolan. Jerry then hired Dan Quinn to coordinate the D. Mac was not much involved in that decision-making process.
Maybe if GB had someone in a position to force Mac to fire Dom after it became clear Dom was past his prime then Mac's own time in GB would have ended a bit better.
Yep, and MLF hired his buddy and Gute is like a bobblehead watching this shit for a third season.
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In January, 2004, then-Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman made the head scratching move of hiring Bob Slowik to be his defensive coordinator.
Slowik had coordinated defenses in both Chicago (1992-98) and Cleveland (1999) with mixed results. But after Sherman whacked defensive coordinator Ed Donatell in the wake of the 4th-and-26 nightmare, he gave Slowik a third shot to run a defense.
Predictably, things didn't go well.
Green Bay tumbled in almost every major statistical defensive category in 2004, allowed nearly 5.0 points more per game, and Slowik was zipped himself after just one year in charge. Not surprisingly, Sherman himself was dusted after the 2005 campaign.
Fast forward to 2021, where current Packers coach Matt LaFleur decided to give Joe Barry a third chance to run a defense.
Barry has been a two-time loser in this role, with dreadful results in both Detroit (2007-08) and Washington (2015-16). But Barry and LaFleur hit it off during their one season together with the Los Angeles Rams in 2017, so LaFleur took a chance and hired his buddy after firing Mike Pettine at the end of the 2020 season.
Although the 2021 season is just one game old, this looks to be a repeat of the Slowik debacle in 2004.
Green Bay was routed by New Orleans, 38-3, in its season-opener and the defense was dreadfully bad.
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I think the defensive issues are a combination of Joe Barry just not being competent plus lacking good tacklers in the ILBs and Safeties group.
They badly need a Leroy Butler type of guy at safety. For as much hype as our ILBs get, none of them are particularly good vs the run.
As much as I think Barry is an incompetent boob, I think some of these tackling issues are going to be a problem until the right players are brought in.