Or maybe MLF essentially takes over the defense himself
Z Smith, even if only playing 20ish snaps a game could be a big difference. Playing him in the middle and disrupting the interior with KC & Lowry could be significant.
3rd down w/Jaire and Z back
Also, consider what SFO did yesterday.
.@49ers activated 10 Defensive Lineman. This was a good old fashioned rerun of “Shark Week” They took a bite out of Stafford 13X…the most of any game all season long. You AFFECT the QB; you Win Games. Next up….DAK. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/GvHHhUWEJS
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) January 10, 2022
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Interior pressure warms the heart... Lowry/Clark were collapsing the pocket in front of Goff yesterday pic.twitter.com/o0ZV7WiilC
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) January 10, 2022
@H5 posted:Interior pressure warms the heart... Lowry/Clark were collapsing the pocket in front of Goff yesterday pic.twitter.com/o0ZV7WiilC
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) January 10, 2022
Thought I saw Preston get held on that first play. This replay confirms it.
I was also thinking intentional grounding at the time but Goff made it outside the tackle box.
Confirm the hold but the refs won't usually call IG if the QB isn't completely out of the hashes.
Refs wanted the game over just like the players did. They didn't call squat.
The above does not appear to bode well for our Packers. Yet, was the past decade just large swing of the pendulum, and could it head back the other way?
Been digging through the archives. This is from just before SB 45. GBs D had been playing really well that season. 2010 - GB won 2 games in the same season while scoring 10 or less points. Yet, as pointed out, 3 of previous 4 Owl winners were bottom half in scoring D. 13th scoring D (2021 rank) may not be the sign many of us think.
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Ref the previous posts about the demise of the Packers’ defense the second half of the season and the potential DC upgrades, I just don’t see MLF moving on from Barry after just one season. He was given Pettine, moved on after two seasons, and hand picked the replacement. He ain’t replacing Barry just yet.
Oh, I don't know. If the D really sucked in the playoffs on top of the past several games... MLF is feeling pretty confident in his role and I'm not sure he would have a lot of patience if the D went totally down the tubes.
Perhaps. But it’s his guy. I don’t think it’s likely, but anything is possible.
I’m confident there will be a uptick inthe defense. The bye will go a long way in helping players get rested and recovering.
It looks to me like in addition to making more metal errors in the backend, defense hasn't been rallying to the ball with big hits like they were when playing well....hoping playoffs / home crowd / return of Jaire can get emotional level back up
What about that hit Amos had against the Vikes? I think a lot of what we saw against the Loins was guys not wanting to get hurt in a game that meant nothing.
Some of biggest value in getting jaire and possibly Z back own the field is getting below average players less to zero snaps (Garvin, Galeai, Burks, Sullivan / King). As Lombardi used to say, you are only as good as your weakest links.
Joe Barry only asked OLB Preston Smith to drop into coverage 40 times this season, per @PFF. He responded with a career-high number of total pressures (62) and his best grade ever as a pass-rusher and overall.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 12, 2022
From what I can tell, the #Packers were the only team in the NFL in 2021 with two interior rushers with 40 or more pressures (Clark, Lowry) and two edge rushers with 60 or more pressures (Gary, Preston Smith). @PFF
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) January 12, 2022
Hell of a playoff performance and a shame it was wasted by the offense and special teams.
@michiganjoe posted:Hell of a playoff performance and a shame it was wasted by the offense and special teams.
It was solid, but I thought the dropped passes early on by the 49ers were a big help. Once the 49ers stopped shooting themselves in the foot the defense was a little bit shakier.
Hard to fault giving up only six points in a playoff game.
There is no way the defense can share in the blame for any of the many failures that factored into this defeat.
As far as I'm concerned, they performed at a championship level.
Other units, however, ... did not.
Criticism I've heard about the defense centers around the third and seven conversion they gave up on the final drive. I wish they could have been perfect, but on the list of the reasons the Packers lost they're right at the bottom.
Jimmy G had a QB rating of 57.1 to Rodgers 91.9. That's a nearly 35 point difference between the 2. At one point, Garropollo's rating was 10 for much of the first half.
And yet the Packers lost. I'd love to see the stats of where your team's QB is 35 points better than his opposing QB and still manages to lose. I can't imagine it happens all that often.
@fightphoe93 posted:It was solid, but I thought the dropped passes early on by the 49ers were a big help. Once the 49ers stopped shooting themselves in the foot the defense was a little bit shakier.
Shakier? They gave up 6 points.
@packerboi posted:Jimmy G had a QB rating of 57.1 to Rodgers 91.9. That's a nearly 35 point difference between the 2. At one point, Garropollo's rating was 10 for much of the first half.
And yet the Packers lost. I'd love to see the stats of where your team's QB is 35 points better than his opposing QB and still manages to lose. I can't imagine it happens all that often.
Them winning the turnover battle trumps the difference in QB rating.
These locker room quotes aren’t great!
TJ Slaton on #Packers defense: "I think we were a little too dialed in at times with the plan and what we practiced. We knew what we were going to see, and I think we were just getting a little lost. We were getting a little lost when we didn’t see what we were practicing."
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) October 9, 2022
TJ Slaton said the biggest surprise today was how often Giants called bootlegs with Daniel Jones. It's something #Packers knew was part of the Giants offense, but they just didn't stop. Once Brian Daboll saw Packers couldn't defend it, he kept calling it. Packers never adjusted.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) October 9, 2022
There scheme employed by Barry fits a defense that is lacking talent. The basic premise of it is "we are going to play 2 deep safeties, a lot of zone defense, not give up the big play, and hope that one or more things happen: 1) You aren't patient enough to take the short and intermediate plays we give you 2) You incur a major penalty 3) On third down ...a) We make an outstanding play b) You make a poor play such as a dropped pass 4) We stop you in the red zone and you have to a FG. So in other words we are going to try to make you beat yourself. This defense has the talent to take more chances , dictate, especially in the past two weeks when we've faced a depleted offense. This is why Belichek has been the best ....he is not afraid to change the entire scheme every week, rather than just say "this is what we do".
"Packers (read Barry) never adjusted" will be this team's epitaph.
Passive and predictable are the best adjectives to describe the present defense.
If only Barry had a boss nearby who upon witnessing his poor performance, instructed him to do things differently.
Crazy, I know.
Thinking in terms of basketball, it is akin to having a team that small and not very athletic so you play a flat zone "hoping" the other team will fall in love with the 3 pt. shot, but miss.
After a night of sleep, I woke up with a great bit of clarity...
With regard to Barry's D...the time for fuck-fuck is over. Fix this shit now, and if the Bills humiliate us, your ass is gone. Never a fan of mid-season changes...they are usually knee-jerk and largely ineffective. But it's obvious by players comments, they don't have faith in the man...and even more obvious by their performances.
Yeah, the offense has it's own turd bucket to carry, but the defense is supposed to be the strength of the team...and right now they are equally as bad as the O.
Quinn has done wonders for Dallas. Fangio did wonders for Chicago and is available. Don't wait until next year. Do it now. Fire Barry and get Fangio. MLF wants the Fangio defense, why not get the freakin architech of it?
If MLF didn't fire that OBVIOUS INCOMPETENT ST coach last year, what makes you think he or What Me Worry will do anything about Barry?
@Blair Kiel posted:If only Barry had a boss nearby who upon witnessing his poor performance, instructed him to do things differently.
Crazy, I know.
I struggling to figure out if BK changed his avatar or PackerHawk changed his name.
Not arguing against replacing Barry sooner rather than later, but one reason against doing so now is that it could make it more difficult to replace him with a quality DC. What potential candidate will want to go to GB after they fired their previous DC barely into his second season? And the defense was solid last season.
A better option might be for MLF to take a more active role in his defense. We all know that AR runs the offense anyway….(half kidding).
Barry isn't getting fired mid season. The only hope is that MLF inserts himself and demands the play calling / approach becomes more aggressive.
I honestly believe that if we simply switch to more man press it will make a huge difference.
Agree, he isn't going to fire Barry. Seems like it is more the play calls, which is correctable. Herman had a good observation on one of Jones' QB draws. Packers were showing double A gap blitz, would have negated the draw, however, the Giants appeared to know it was a "bluff", and when the 2 LBers sprinted back and out on the snap, Jones ran it.