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The way players move around anymore I doubt the players care much about rivalries. The rivalry is more deep rooted with the fans than anything. Back in the day when a player wore the same uniform for 10 years I could see it. The Bears have a handful of ex-Packers and chances are they have a little edge but when you played for the Packers last season how much rivalry  can there be?

Sure they want to win but is it a longstanding rivalry to them when they played for the other side last season? They've been with the Bears a few months, I doubt they've bought in that much. This rivalry is very geographic among the fans more than players who might be a part of it for a few seasons.

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I didn't realize Fields and Love have same agent. Interesting.

I thought Love and Rodgers having the same agent was bizarre. What's going on in the backchannels concerning Rodgers future in GB over the past 2 seasons?

I believe if Rodgers goes to Denver in 2022,.Love has a lot of growing pains.

We may see less growing pains this year especially since MLF & Love worked on footwork.

Rodgers did a lot of work on his own game from 2005-2007....Love has done the same 2020-2022....

Back in 2008, I never once felt like Rodgers wasn't a good QB....and the teams record was 6-10.

I have a feeling we'll see similar QB play from Love this season. I hope the team record will be better. I believe the team around Love is a much better team than in 2008.... especially 2023 defense and running game.

Love has been given all the tools to succeed.....now stay healthy and drive this Lamborghini young man. 

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Packers’ Jordan Love calm, cool and collected, seems ready for new era in Green Bay

GREEN BAY, Wis. — AJ Dillon has known Jordan Love since before the 2020 NFL Draft. He’s never seen the Green Bay Packers’ new starting quarterback flustered on the field.

“Only off the field,” said Dillon, who trained with Love before Green Bay selected both with successive picks three years ago. “I’m undefeated in ping-pong against him and that predates the Green Bay Packers.”

Asked about his ping-pong record against Dillon on Thursday, Love playfully said he didn’t remember if he’s ever beaten Dillon. He did advise, though, to ask Dillon about their basketball matchups. Recreational sports banter aside, it’s Love’s composure when it comes to football that has impressed those who have watched him arrive on the brink of his debut as the Packers’ full-time starting quarterback.

As Love prepares to shoulder the responsibility of leading one of the sport’s most iconic franchises, we don’t know much about what he’ll be on the field. He certainly displayed more good than bad in his first preseason as Green Bay’s starter — his accuracy, scrambling ability and pocket presence were impressive — but nobody knows for sure whether Love will be any good when it counts until he’s thrown into the fire for real. That starts Sunday afternoon when Love and the Packers begin a new era against their oldest rival at Soldier Field in Chicago.

What seems for certain, however, is that he’s well equipped to handle everything that’s about to be heaved at him, on and off the field, because of what’s between his ears. A visit to the Chicago Bears and a crowd eager to recapture their ownership from the Packers quarterback position isn’t a bad first test for the 24-year-old kid who has impressed those around him with his demeanor.

“He’s a really headstrong guy,” Dillon said. “When he officially became QB1, my whole thing was, the way he’s dealt with the situation, having obviously been drafted in the first round and then just being about his business, coming to work every day, being positive, that’s all carried over obviously through OTAs, through camp, to now … he has the guys around him believing in him, so I’m just excited for him to finally get that first game, QB1, go out there, ball out like we all know he’s gonna do.”

The Packers’ faith in Love, because of his on-field ability and mental makeup, can in part be traced to Week 9 in 2021. That’s when, on short notice because Aaron Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19 early in the week, Love was thrust into the spotlight against the Kansas City Chiefs on the road. The Packers lost, 13-7, but general manager Brian Gutekunst told The Athletic this offseason he was impressed with how Love handled adversity in that game. Gutekunst said the Packers didn’t have a good plan to support Love, whose supporting cast allowed 16 quarterback pressures, according to Pro Football Focus.

“The way he handled himself in the midst of that chaos in a tough time … I think it gave us confidence that he could stay poised in those moments,” Gutekunst said.

Love didn’t play spectacularly, either, completing 19 of 34 passes for 190 yards, a touchdown and an interception. After 3 1/2 quarters of futility, Love led a 10-play, 53-yard touchdown drive in the fourth quarter and capped it off with a 20-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Allen Lazard to cut the Packers’ deficit to one score.

“In Kansas City, when he started for us, there were some moments that weren’t the most fun going through when you’re not producing points on offense,” coach Matt LaFleur says now. “That can be frustrating, but I thought the whole time he kept it together and shoot, led us down late in that game and gave us an opportunity to potentially make it a game. We fell short, but I just think that’s one of his makeups that make him very special.”

Love has operated the Packers’ offense this summer with a calm perhaps surprising of someone new to his role. On the first play of 11-on-11 drills Aug. 7, safety Darnell Savage Jr. intercepted Love over the middle. Reporters aren’t allowed to directly quote what they overhear at practice, but cornerback Jaire Alexander launched some expletive-laden trash talk Love’s way. Love, as he did multiple times this summer, responded to early struggles with impressive work later that practice.

“I don’t see Jordan get rattled at all, man,” Alexander said. “He’s pretty much the same. I’m always talking to him and trying to get in his head, but I don’t know, I don’t think it works. Maybe it does, I don’t know.”

“You hear all that stuff and a lot of it’s just talk,” Love said. “Guys talk. It’s football. It’s been the name of the game since I’ve been playing. Guys talk trash. They try to get in your head, try to get you off your game and you’ve just got (to ask yourself), I mean, ‘How can you not let it affect you? Are you going to talk back? Are you going to let it get in your head? Or are you just going to stay composed, let your play do the talking?’ That’s what I like to do. But yeah, guys are always talking. It’s football. Other teams are going to talk. You’ve just got to do your best not to let them get in your head.”

A hint for the Packers’ All-Pro cornerback: It doesn’t work, at least not visibly. But how does Love make it look so easy to stay even-keeled, amid the trash talk, amid the hype surrounding his first game as full-time starter against the Bears, amid all the pressure and expectation that accompanies succeeding two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Green Bay?

We’ve been talking trash to him. I done been in they huddle sometimes and pushed him and said a couple jokes and tried to do all this stuff, but he’s just poised,” cornerback Rasul Douglas said. “I don’t know where he gets it from, but he’s just poised. Real poised and he’s real calm. You don’t never really see Jordan yelling or going crazy. It’s always like, ‘I got this. You just do that. You do that. We got it. You’ll catch the next one.'”

Green Bay’s talkative cornerbacks aren’t the only ones trying to intentionally fluster Love to see what he’s made of. The team’s oldest player has, too, and come away impressed by the response — or lack thereof.

“I don’t know what everyone else is saying,” left tackle David Bakhtiari began his joke. “He seems like a complete wreck to me. There’s so many times I’m like, ‘Dude, will you just f—ing relax, stop stuttering and just get the’ … no, he’s been great. … When he first got in, I purposely would mess with him every day by design. Probably was a little bit my personal pleasure, but by design. I wanted to try and rattle him.

“If they show some fortitude early, then I’m gonna push harder and harder because I just wanna see what their breaking point (is). … The longer it takes, I think it’s a good element for a successful player.”

Bakhtiari added that he hasn’t seen much of a breaking point for Love yet. It doesn’t seem like there has been one at all.

That might mean very little come Sunday and the games that follow. His teammates, coach and GM can praise Love’s demeanor all they want, but what matters most is whether Love can play football. The answer to that question is largely unknown and might remain so for a couple of months or even a full season.



Best description I heard of Love's play was solid, not spectacular. His stats on third and fourth down really told the story- when they needed a play Love pretty much delivered. Had to be an absolutely devastating loss for the Bears and their fans.

Still no takers on "Love Notes:"? 

I was encouraged by his poise and taking care of the ball though his OL helped greatly on that front.  Also his efficiency on 3rd down - MLF also helped him out here with plays that had guys open.  He didn't need to force anything into coverage. 

All that said, he didn't really do much to make you say "wow".  That's not a bad thing or a criticism, just an observation.  He took what the D gave him, ran the plays that were called, and he'll have plenty more opportunities to show more of what he is capable of this season.  Very solid is a fair description.

i thought both Doubs touch down plays were great for his 1st game. The 1st one he had to go through his progressions, be patient in the pocket without bolting and then put it in a good place. The 2nd one was to a place only Doubs could catch it. There were a couple of rocket balls he could have used some touch on one of which would have passed through a steel cage it was thrown so hard.  Still a good first game. He looked better than any QB the Packers have had in the past 30 years not named Favre or Rodgers including  Brunell, Hasselbach, and Detmer.

On the road, hostile environment, biggest rivalry, first full start, minus his best receiver, later losing Jones.  The kid's mentally tough, I like that.  Even picks up a dropped fumble and finds a guy open that should have been another touchdown.  For those reasons alone plus his solid performance and no turnovers?  I thought he had a hell of a game.  Excited to see him build on this.  Way to go JL!

Yesterday 14 of the 32 NFL starting QBs were African-American, a first for the season opener.

They asked Jordan about that in his press conference and he gave them a simple answer that he was proud to be part of that.

Here's the unsaid part. His dad was a great high school QB who went on to play at Bakersfield College long ago, one of the top JC programs in the state that used to draw 20,000 people on a Saturday night to their games. Once there, they moved him to RB, because that's the way it was done back then.

Once Jordan started playing, his dad was adamant he not get the same treatment. Wish he was here to see how this played out.

I agree with the Lions guy in this video that we're not sure if Love is good or the Bears are that bad. Beating the Bears is like taking out Glass Joe in Mike Tyson's Punch Out, just show up and hit some buttons. That said it's better than not beating the Bears and Lions guy there looks a little concerned.

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