He does not sound like a man that is too concerned with rivalries. Seems like a guy who is focused on football, not any other stuff.
The way players move around anymore I doubt the players care much about rivalries. The rivalry is more deep rooted with the fans than anything. Back in the day when a player wore the same uniform for 10 years I could see it. The Bears have a handful of ex-Packers and chances are they have a little edge but when you played for the Packers last season how much rivalry can there be?
All those former Packers want to win on Sunday, I assure you.
I didn't realize Fields and Love have same agent. Interesting.
Sure they want to win but is it a longstanding rivalry to them when they played for the other side last season? They've been with the Bears a few months, I doubt they've bought in that much. This rivalry is very geographic among the fans more than players who might be a part of it for a few seasons.
@Boris posted:I didn't realize Fields and Love have same agent. Interesting.
I thought Love and Rodgers having the same agent was bizarre. What's going on in the backchannels concerning Rodgers future in GB over the past 2 seasons?
The back channels were everything that happened with the Broncos and 49ers trying to weasel 12 out of Green Bay before 10 was ready to take over.
I believe if Rodgers goes to Denver in 2022,.Love has a lot of growing pains.
We may see less growing pains this year especially since MLF & Love worked on footwork.
Rodgers did a lot of work on his own game from 2005-2007....Love has done the same 2020-2022....
Back in 2008, I never once felt like Rodgers wasn't a good QB....and the teams record was 6-10.
I have a feeling we'll see similar QB play from Love this season. I hope the team record will be better. I believe the team around Love is a much better team than in 2008.... especially 2023 defense and running game.
Love has been given all the tools to succeed.....now stay healthy and drive this Lamborghini young man.
Florio gets digs in on the Packers...then King makes him cry with his glowing assessment of what he thinks Love will do. GOLD!!!
Because Florio is a candy-ass Viking fan.....and he will really be crying if Love finishes top 10 QB.
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Packersβ Jordan Love calm, cool and collected, seems ready for new era in Green Bay
GREEN BAY, Wis. β AJ Dillon has known Jordan Love since before the 2020 NFL Draft. Heβs never seen the Green Bay Packersβ new starting quarterback flustered on the field.
βOnly off the field,β said Dillon, who trained with Love before Green Bay selected both with successive picks three years ago. βIβm undefeated in ping-pong against him and that predates the Green Bay Packers.β
Asked about his ping-pong record against Dillon on Thursday, Love playfully said he didnβt remember if heβs ever beaten Dillon. He did advise, though, to ask Dillon about their basketball matchups. Recreational sports banter aside, itβs Loveβs composure when it comes to football that has impressed those who have watched him arrive on the brink of his debut as the Packersβ full-time starting quarterback.
As Love prepares to shoulder the responsibility of leading one of the sportβs most iconic franchises, we donβt know much about what heβll be on the field. He certainly displayed more good than bad in his first preseason as Green Bayβs starter β his accuracy, scrambling ability and pocket presence were impressive β but nobody knows for sure whether Love will be any good when it counts until heβs thrown into the fire for real. That starts Sunday afternoon when Love and the Packers begin a new era against their oldest rival at Soldier Field in Chicago.
What seems for certain, however, is that heβs well equipped to handle everything thatβs about to be heaved at him, on and off the field, because of whatβs between his ears. A visit to the Chicago Bears and a crowd eager to recapture their ownership from the Packers quarterback position isnβt a bad first test for the 24-year-old kid who has impressed those around him with his demeanor.
βHeβs a really headstrong guy,β Dillon said. βWhen he officially became QB1, my whole thing was, the way heβs dealt with the situation, having obviously been drafted in the first round and then just being about his business, coming to work every day, being positive, thatβs all carried over obviously through OTAs, through camp, to now β¦ he has the guys around him believing in him, so Iβm just excited for him to finally get that first game, QB1, go out there, ball out like we all know heβs gonna do.β
The Packersβ faith in Love, because of his on-field ability and mental makeup, can in part be traced to Week 9 in 2021. Thatβs when, on short notice because Aaron Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19 early in the week, Love was thrust into the spotlight against the Kansas City Chiefs on the road. The Packers lost, 13-7, but general manager Brian Gutekunst told The Athletic this offseason he was impressed with how Love handled adversity in that game. Gutekunst said the Packers didnβt have a good plan to support Love, whose supporting cast allowed 16 quarterback pressures, according to Pro Football Focus.
βThe way he handled himself in the midst of that chaos in a tough time β¦ I think it gave us confidence that he could stay poised in those moments,β Gutekunst said.
Love didnβt play spectacularly, either, completing 19 of 34 passes for 190 yards, a touchdown and an interception. After 3 1/2 quarters of futility, Love led a 10-play, 53-yard touchdown drive in the fourth quarter and capped it off with a 20-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Allen Lazard to cut the Packersβ deficit to one score.
βIn Kansas City, when he started for us, there were some moments that werenβt the most fun going through when youβre not producing points on offense,β coach Matt LaFleur says now. βThat can be frustrating, but I thought the whole time he kept it together and shoot, led us down late in that game and gave us an opportunity to potentially make it a game. We fell short, but I just think thatβs one of his makeups that make him very special.β
Love has operated the Packersβ offense this summer with a calm perhaps surprising of someone new to his role. On the first play of 11-on-11 drills Aug. 7, safety Darnell Savage Jr. intercepted Love over the middle. Reporters arenβt allowed to directly quote what they overhear at practice, but cornerback Jaire Alexander launched some expletive-laden trash talk Loveβs way. Love, as he did multiple times this summer, responded to early struggles with impressive work later that practice.
βI donβt see Jordan get rattled at all, man,β Alexander said. βHeβs pretty much the same. Iβm always talking to him and trying to get in his head, but I donβt know, I donβt think it works. Maybe it does, I donβt know.β
βYou hear all that stuff and a lot of itβs just talk,β Love said. βGuys talk. Itβs football. Itβs been the name of the game since Iβve been playing. Guys talk trash. They try to get in your head, try to get you off your game and youβve just got (to ask yourself), I mean, βHow can you not let it affect you? Are you going to talk back? Are you going to let it get in your head? Or are you just going to stay composed, let your play do the talking?β Thatβs what I like to do. But yeah, guys are always talking. Itβs football. Other teams are going to talk. Youβve just got to do your best not to let them get in your head.β
A hint for the Packersβ All-Pro cornerback: It doesnβt work, at least not visibly. But how does Love make it look so easy to stay even-keeled, amid the trash talk, amid the hype surrounding his first game as full-time starter against the Bears, amid all the pressure and expectation that accompanies succeeding two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Green Bay?
βWeβve been talking trash to him. I done been in they huddle sometimes and pushed him and said a couple jokes and tried to do all this stuff, but heβs just poised,β cornerback Rasul Douglas said. βI donβt know where he gets it from, but heβs just poised. Real poised and heβs real calm. You donβt never really see Jordan yelling or going crazy. Itβs always like, βI got this. You just do that. You do that. We got it. Youβll catch the next one.'β
Green Bayβs talkative cornerbacks arenβt the only ones trying to intentionally fluster Love to see what heβs made of. The teamβs oldest player has, too, and come away impressed by the response β or lack thereof.
βI donβt know what everyone else is saying,β left tackle David Bakhtiari began his joke. βHe seems like a complete wreck to me. Thereβs so many times Iβm like, βDude, will you just fβing relax, stop stuttering and just get theβ β¦ no, heβs been great. β¦ When he first got in, I purposely would mess with him every day by design. Probably was a little bit my personal pleasure, but by design. I wanted to try and rattle him.
βIf they show some fortitude early, then Iβm gonna push harder and harder because I just wanna see what their breaking point (is). β¦ The longer it takes, I think itβs a good element for a successful player.β
Bakhtiari added that he hasnβt seen much of a breaking point for Love yet. It doesnβt seem like there has been one at all.
That might mean very little come Sunday and the games that follow. His teammates, coach and GM can praise Loveβs demeanor all they want, but what matters most is whether Love can play football. The answer to that question is largely unknown and might remain so for a couple of months or even a full season.
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Highest QBR in the league yesterday if I heard correctly. Not bad Jordan, not bad at all.
Best description I heard of Love's play was solid, not spectacular. His stats on third and fourth down really told the story- when they needed a play Love pretty much delivered. Had to be an absolutely devastating loss for the Bears and their fans.
Bear fans are so used to losing yesterday was just like any other day.
Still no takers on "Love Notes:"?
I was encouraged by his poise and taking care of the ball though his OL helped greatly on that front. Also his efficiency on 3rd down - MLF also helped him out here with plays that had guys open. He didn't need to force anything into coverage.
All that said, he didn't really do much to make you say "wow". That's not a bad thing or a criticism, just an observation. He took what the D gave him, ran the plays that were called, and he'll have plenty more opportunities to show more of what he is capable of this season. Very solid is a fair description.
The fumblerooski was a wow play. The TD to Jones was a staple in the red zone with Rodgers. Never saw it go for a long TD before.
i thought both Doubs touch down plays were great for his 1st game. The 1st one he had to go through his progressions, be patient in the pocket without bolting and then put it in a good place. The 2nd one was to a place only Doubs could catch it. There were a couple of rocket balls he could have used some touch on one of which would have passed through a steel cage it was thrown so hard. Still a good first game. He looked better than any QB the Packers have had in the past 30 years not named Favre or Rodgers including Brunell, Hasselbach, and Detmer.
On the road, hostile environment, biggest rivalry, first full start, minus his best receiver, later losing Jones. The kid's mentally tough, I like that. Even picks up a dropped fumble and finds a guy open that should have been another touchdown. For those reasons alone plus his solid performance and no turnovers? I thought he had a hell of a game. Excited to see him build on this. Way to go JL!
Good story on Love's debut.
Yesterday 14 of the 32 NFL starting QBs were African-American, a first for the season opener.
They asked Jordan about that in his press conference and he gave them a simple answer that he was proud to be part of that.
Here's the unsaid part. His dad was a great high school QB who went on to play at Bakersfield College long ago, one of the top JC programs in the state that used to draw 20,000 people on a Saturday night to their games. Once there, they moved him to RB, because that's the way it was done back then.
Once Jordan started playing, his dad was adamant he not get the same treatment. Wish he was here to see how this played out.
@YATittle posted:Good story on Love's debut.
Really interesting insight into the decision to go for it on the fourth down TD to Jones.
Charles is sold on DET.
Great breakdown by JT. Spoilers, he really likes what he sees.
There is a new way to spell "loser". It is B R I S K E R.
I agree with the Lions guy in this video that we're not sure if Love is good or the Bears are that bad. Beating the Bears is like taking out Glass Joe in Mike Tyson's Punch Out, just show up and hit some buttons. That said it's better than not beating the Bears and Lions guy there looks a little concerned.
I've seen people lose to Glass Joe
If Love continues this level of play Tom Clements should be inducted into the Packer HOF.
that JT o'sullivan guy, for being a nerf qb, he does a great job at breaking down film. I really enjoy his channel there.
His delivery really holds your interest on the content and he's entertaining.
Why isn't JT O'Sullivan on NFL Network or
Dude is excellent
He should probably be a QB coach on an NFL team