Fitzgerald was a great hire by Murphy....for Northwestern. He's done a remarkable job there....but please keep him away from Green Bay.
ChilliJon posted:Lincoln Riley gets Saban tonight. Big test under the brightest lights.
So the measuring stick is beating the most dominant dynasty in college football in decades. Cool. Cool.
If we get Fitzgerald maybe we can get their strength coach.
GB sells polos in a child’s medium right?
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There is no guarantee that Murphy will hire the correct coach to get us back to the SB. There is also no guarantee that Gutie would be able to so either. (given the opportunity). However, Murphy certainly has more experience interviewing/hiring coaches. It's not as though Murphy is going to half ass this search because he doesn't really care.
I have no problem with Fitzgerald if he can hire good assistants.
Even Ron Wolf blew it once and no guarantees whatsoever. My issue with Murphy is the structure he's created and he's almost functioning as a de facto owner.
well, one thing for shure, it aint gonna be philbin - whom i thought had a chance a few weeks ago...so yay for that coming to light.
Still believe this is Gutekunst's final call, but Murphy will be involved. I think what we are seeing now is remants of the power trio set-up. I posted it before and still believe we will see GM Gutekunst running things more and more as they move into 2019 and beyond.
All of the other teams actually have an owner. Murphy as a defacto owner would be the only one with NFL experience (player and executive) prior to becoming the owner.
Supposedly, Arizona thought about giving McCarthy an insane amount of control.
The stink bomb at Lambeau today should hopefully have ended all the talk about Philbin.
Fedya posted:Supposedly, Arizona thought about giving McCarthy an insane amount of control.
Dumb
I guess it answers the question about how quickly he would have been offered another HC job.
Grave Digger posted:If we get Fitzgerald maybe we can get their strength coach.
GB sells polos in a child’s medium right?
I don't have much faith in Murphy at all. His love affair with Fitzgerald is bothersome but I think the job is his if he wants it.
GB has asked permission to interview Josh McDaniels and Brian Flores of the Patriots.
Flores for special teams? Hard to believe a guy who is a linebacker coach could jump to HC.
I know nothing about the guy but there's talk that he is a HC candidate around the league.
He's the coach in the clip yelling for Malcolm to get in the game vs SEA. Malcolm picked Wilson at the GL to seal the SB.
So that makes him a HC candidate???
Sounds like Cleveland may not go with Gregg Williams as head coach. Might be an option for Green Bay at D coordinator.
Browns and Packers have requested permission to interview Patriots' DC Brian Flores for head coach, per league source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) December 31, 2018
Packers also requested permission to interview Patriots' OC Josh McDaniels for HC.
Murphy obviously is not messing..My question is how long long does Gutenkunst get? Thompson and McCarthy had extraordinary success at one time and were both given the boot--and I agree with those moves-Gutenkunst does not have that resume and his first year is not looking so hot. Trading down, getting Alexander and a late first round pick was dynamite. He struck gold in the first round-something Thompson and Wolf struggled with.....the late pick receivers were good solid picks...bringing Morrison in was nice...everything else is pretty rough. No doubt drafts take years to grade and maybe some of these players develop.
The nature of DB play typically mean you know what you have early and maybe Jackson will become better at safety, but he is not a DB that warrants the #45th pick. He traded several picks to move up to get Burks. Moore has hands of stone---and maybe something happens-Sharpe dropped several his rookie year. Meredith doesn't make the team. Draft a punter that finishes in the bottom third and can't hold a place kick? Graham may have been the worst free agent pick in our history and if you use the Sherman/Joe Johnson grade scale, Wilkerson was a bust. Could Randall have been that cancerous?-You trade him for a QB who makes Hundley look like a star and Randall goes on to have a very solid year at safety for the Browns--the exact player we needed. Not addressing the o-line other than bringing in Bell was puzzling.
If Murphy is shooting from the hip, this guy shouldn't get much time.
Gutes first year as GM is just as pitiful as Ted Thompsons 1st year. Lets see what happens the next two years.
You can't call Wilkerson a bust just because he got hurt. He was playing solid ball before he went down. I won't write off any rookie, especially considering how this team roster just disintegrated with injuries. Yeah, Moore looks like he's all thumbs, he may be a mid round Treadwell. Graham, I don't know. That whole offense looked like shit including Rodgers. It wasn't a good signing but I can see why they did it. It would've been nice if they had a HC that actually knew how to use TE's for something other than a dump off.
Agreed on Opie, could've been another Oline or LB pick. Also have to remember they literal had a Oline pick walk away. Considering they were also trying to navigate Rodgers contract I can see why they didn't punch the gas peddle. It wasn't spectacular but it wasn't horrible either.
Gorkenspiel has been with the Packers since 1999. That's not nothing. He worked with Highsmith, Dorsey, Schneider, McKenzie, Sherman (waaa waaaaah), PeeWee Wolf and Thompson.
Hungry5 posted:Still believe this is Gutekunst's final call, but Murphy will be involved. I think what we are seeing now is remants of the power trio set-up. I posted it before and still believe we will see GM Gutekunst running things more and more as they move into 2019 and beyond.
I also think this will be Gute's final call on the hire. I of course have no insight in to why that power structure was set up but I wonder if it was because MM may have needed a check and balance on his job.
FloridaRob, yes this season was a disaster but I wouldn't totally lay that at Gute's feet. The guy seemed to had a decent draft and he did what he could to fill a VERY thin roster that TT left him with.
I agree Wilkerson was playing well and I'd like to see him return. Joe Johnson was a beast-2 x pro bowler....an early injury ended a promising Packer tenure and Sherman was vilified for signing him..so again on the Sherman grade scale it didn't work out...same with Thompson's pick of Rollins-that guy was going to be solid...injuries ended that dream--and Thompson took heat for it.
not blaming Gute for this disaster. He gets a pass. I thought his draft was excellent. Better than the last few under Thompson. At least there are players contributing that look pretty good. I think Madison walking away affected what his plan was for the offensive line But we know now that Bell and Mcray are not starters. There are so many holes in this team tho. Interior line, TE, there is no one at safety, and pass rusher from somewhere are major holes. I would think you have to keep Bulaga around one more year. His 6 Million dollar salary is not that bad. Maybe move him inside if Gute can find a tackle. Not sure he can fix all those holes by the draft and free agency.
Johnson posted:I agree Wilkerson was playing well and I'd like to see him return. Joe Johnson was a beast-2 x pro bowler....an early injury ended a promising Packer tenure and Sherman was vilified for signing him..so again on the Sherman grade scale it didn't work out...same with Thompson's pick of Rollins-that guy was going to be solid...injuries ended that dream--and Thompson took heat for it.
Sherman signed Joe Johnson to a huge contract. Rollins was a high draft pick. Wilkerson was on a very affordable, one year prove it deal. That's smart.
Johnson posted:Graham may have been the worst free agent pick in our history and if you use the Sherman/Joe Johnson grade scale,
We had a worse free agent pick up last year
Floridarob posted:Gutes first year as GM is just as pitiful as Ted Thompsons 1st year. Lets see what happens the next two years.
And both fired deadbeat HCs.
GBFanForLife posted:So that makes him a HC candidate???
I would say so yes. One consistent thing in NE is their ability to play solid defense no matter who they have playing. One thing I think we can all agree on is something GB has not consistently done.
Belichek is that offense and defense. How many "brilliant" assistants have come out of NE? Those assistants look good because they are working with Belichek and are comfortable in the system he created. Bad track record.
Fedya posted:Have they fired Zook yet?
We won’t know until the new coach is hired and fills out his staff, but right now coaches are not needed and are not working.