I think this was being discussed earlier about contacting college coaches in the search.
"Per a league source, the NFL reminded teams at the December ownership meetings that, before a college coach may be contacted, the team must seek and obtain permission from the Athletic Director at the college in question. The teams were told that, if permission is denied, the pursuit must end."
Interesting. Thanks for that correction.
Henry posted:Sounds like Whitt could be leaving anyways if he gets a DC offer. Pettine sounds like he's good where he's at, which is great. I'm curious if Whitt would apply for HC?
Not sure how to read this regarding Pettine. He goes right to the edge of saying he doesn't want it, but then stops. So I guess if he's not out, he's still in. Whitt was a finalist for the DC position earlier and it seems that would be his next logical move. Since he hasn't been associated with what would be considered a highly successful defense ( unless you want to consider the early years under the Wizard), I would think he'd need to prove himself in a DC role before being considered seriously as HC. Interesting tidbit: Whitt was an asst. coach in Atlanta in 2007 for none other than ole one-eye himself, Mike Zimmer.
Grave Digger posted:I have a hunch that Murphy is going to copy Pittsburgh again like he did with the FO reporting structure. I think he’s going to look for a young defensive mind in the mold of Mike Tomlin. Kris Richard is a guy that fits that mold IMO.
Kris Richard is an awfully impressive coach. Guy has a great resume with building the Legion of Boom and has had immediate impact on elevating Dallas defense into one of the better ones. Marinelli gave up play calling to him within a few months of his arrival, not something you see a lifelong coordinator do. And its paid off big time....Dallas suddenly has a top defense.
bdplant posted:And to his credit, he realized that he screwed up and didn’t waste any time fixing the problem.
This 1000 times. Mistakes will be made. The key is to accept that and try to correct them quickly. This is why TT was never great. He nailed a couple drafts and UDFA's early and that propelled them to the SB win. When he didn't nail the draft, he never took corrective action.
The more I reflect on Zooks screwups the more I want Dave Toub as HC.
They have to decide if they want a head coach who coaches the players or who coaches the coaches? Many very good O and D coordinators have not been good head coaches. May be better to hire a head coach who is great at organization, leadership, etc. and have him hire coordinators to run the offense and defense.
That's certainly a possibility. The downside is a CEO-type head coach will have to hire 3 quality coordinators as opposed to two. Two is hard enough for most, as Mike proved year after year.
Will be interesting to see what coaching changes will be made throughout the NFL after the final gun sounds on Sunday night.
I'd be OK with it if they fired Zook before the final gun sounds on Sunday.
Good article PackerPatrick I'm sold on Dave Toub if he brings innovative OC keeps Petine and fires Zook.
BrainDed posted:bdplant posted:And to his credit, he realized that he screwed up and didn’t waste any time fixing the problem.
This 1000 times. Mistakes will be made. The key is to accept that and try to correct them quickly. This is why TT was never great. He nailed a couple drafts and UDFA's early and that propelled them to the SB win. When he didn't nail the draft, he never took corrective action.
Disagree....
He "nailed"Eddie Lacy for the first 2 years. Then Eddie sucked down Chinese food & decided to suck. He nailed Nick Collins but the first 2 years looked like a bust. Then he has a career ending injury.
Sometimes players develop slower. However in Spriggs case, I just think he sucks.
Real people....it's not fantasy football.
Cross Jim Harbaugh off the list. Michigan is doing their annual suck job. HARBAUGH CAN'T WIN A BIG ONE.
Lincoln Riley gets Saban tonight. Big test under the brightest lights.
ammo posted:Cross Jim Harbaugh off the list. Michigan is doing their annual suck job. HARBAUGH CAN'T WIN A BIG ONE.
The Wolverines don't even want him
Schadenfreude.
I think finding a good Conditioning Coach this year may be more or just as important as a Head Coach. The number of injuries this team suffers each year over the last ten or so years is unconscionable and a major reason for their on the field problems.
Fedya posted:I'd be OK with it if they fired Zook before the final gun sounds on Sunday.
I'd be ok if they fired Zook with the final gun Sunday.
Reporter: How do you feel about your team's execution?
John McKay: I'm in favor of it.
ChilliJon posted:Lincoln Riley gets Saban tonight. Big test under the brightest lights.
EC Pack posted:I'd be ok if they fired Zook with the final gun Sunday.
Like this? 
Let’s see how Riley adjusts this half.
Right now Riley wishes the Big 12 played defense.
Bama teaching Riley an OL is all there is to know about offense. And really, it’s been that way forever.
ChilliJon posted:Bama teaching Riley an OL is all there is to know about offense. And really, it’s been that way forever.
Completely agree with your o-line stance. Pour the foundation before buying curtains!
'pologies for stepping out of the VS thread.
There better be a minimum of 3 new faces on the Oline roster. I don't care where they come from. Someone go find Madison in the woods. Think it's pretty safe to say that guy is gone. But we've got Opie Whizburger!
Brown Paper Sack AGAIN posted:ChilliJon posted:Bama teaching Riley an OL is all there is to know about offense. And really, it’s been that way forever.
Completely agree with your o-line stance. Pour the foundation before buying curtains!
'pologies for stepping out of the VS thread.
I don't own or run the place, but I would think if you acted civilized you'd be able to get off the newspaper and roam the house a little bit.
But, when you act like a little puppy and poop and pee all over the place, you get restricted.
Iron posted:I think finding a good Conditioning Coach this year may be more or just as important as a Head Coach. The number of injuries this team suffers each year over the last ten or so years is unconscionable and a major reason for their on the field problems.
It’s an odd path but Dave Toub actually has experence in that area among other experiences in his resumé.
rumor this am is that adam gase is gonna get canned. he would be interesting paired with pettine...
Sure seems like JSOnline is going to bat for Pat Fitzgerald. Hope that's not a harbinger of things to come. The one interesting thing from Silverstein's article was speculating about the interviews with Caldwell and Pagano as getting the lay of the land and maybe even discussing OC options. I'd be more than fine with Caldwell as OC. But the whole Silverstein pitch is essentially trying to fill the downfall of hiring a college coach. I just don't see it as a good option at all for a team pushing a closing window.
Fitzgerald might be good but what worries me is how long the college to NFL learning period would be for him. Coordinators with NFL experience would definitely help.
I don't know if Caldwell would do it and if anyone says Norv Turner I'm punching them in the cyberjunk. Pettine and Caldwell would be a huge help but I'm not a fan of Fitzgerald in the first place or any college coach quite frankly.
Henry posted:Sure seems like JSOnline is going to bat for Pat Fitzgerald. Hope that's not a harbinger of things to come. The one interesting thing from Silverstein's article was speculating about the interviews with Caldwell and Pagano as getting the lay of the land and maybe even discussing OC options. I'd be more than fine with Caldwell as OC. But the whole Silverstein pitch is essentially trying to fill the downfall of hiring a college coach. I just don't see it as a good option at all for a team pushing a closing window.
Silverstein is all over the map right now, including their most recent podcast. Polish Packer Plus guy is the same.
GreenBayLA posted:Good article PackerPatrick I'm sold on Dave Toub if he brings innovative OC keeps Petine and fires Zook.
I'm all in on Toub after reading that article. Also, he comes from the Reid tree so I am sure he would be able to poach an offensive assistant from that innovative staff. I also think since he would be coming from an offense-first staff, Pettine and his staff likely has a better chance to stick and continue to build continuity.
And of course, the consistent horrible ST play under M3…
I really hope this is way off base, if Murphy is going to hire the GM, HC, OC and DC why doesn’t he quarterback this team and also do the kicking? This is starting to have shades of Al Davis/Jerry Jones. I keep going back to the Packers resurrection in the 90s with Harlan/Wolf/Holmgren where it was talked about that the key was getting the board and front office out of football decisions. IMO, Murphy is setting the stage for the franchise to take a nose dive.
Murphy should stay the hell out of the coaching search. The last thing we need is Northwestern's coaching staff in GB. That would be a huge F up, IMO. Maybe "Fire Murphy" needs to be the new chant.
michiganjoe posted:
So fukking stupid
