Love the Pettine as HC schitck.
WTF.
When was the last time Crosby put a kickoff in the end zone?
The last few weeks he's sucked in both directions and the opponents have had no problem.
FLPACKER posted:That is your opinion,
It's also the opinion of Pete Carroll, (just witnessed tonight) Sean McVay & Bill Belichick.
It's the correct way to use the game clock.
It's situational football & if you can't understand it, I can't help you.
Asking for a friend. Is Pete Carroll's opinion really valid?
Whether they keep Pettine or not should be the new HCs decision. I hate it when guys get hired for a job and aren't given full ownership over that job (sound familiar). But in all fairness, that D is so banged up I don't know how anyone can blame Pettine at this point. Early in the season it was frustrating to see how they would look horrible one half and then actually good a second half of a game, but they kept the team in a lot of games. If King and Breeland had been able to be on the field in the middle of the season, they might have won a couple of those games and that was a really tough stretch of schedule.
This season is squarely on the offense, it might have been they weren't as talented as in years past but how a team can be 31st in rushing attempts and have the player with the highest yards per carry is pretty weird.
Personally, I am not a fan of bringing in a college coach and I don't trust Murphy at all to make a wise decision. I am interested to see who they end up with.
GBFanForLife posted:So you ASSume everyone loves Mcarthy bcuz you hated him. At least we can agree that we aren't excited to have Murphy make the decision on the next coach. Now go back to pettin your Pettine doll.
Just going to stick my finger in your eye every chance I get. I do that. We'll find an "old ball coach" to make you all feel better. Hero worship is for suckers, especially when you blame your hero's failings on everyone else.
You people think "the old ball coach" mentality isn't completely obvious?
Brak posted:Love the Pettine as HC schitck.
WTF.
Yeah, you don't want anyone innovative.
He's got "the old ball coach" written all over him.
Thanks for putting a coach in my mouth.
Good with Riley.
Brainwashed Boris posted:FLPACKER posted:That is your opinion,
It's also the opinion of Pete Carroll, (just witnessed tonight) Sean McVay & Bill Belichick.
It's the correct way to use the game clock.
It's situational football & if you can't understand it, I can't help you.
WAY different situation. Yes to your approach IF we only needed a FG. We needed a TD to keep our chances to win the game alive. In that situation your only focus is to score the TD. If your best play in that situation is a run, you run it, if a pass, you pass it. Your focus is scoring a TD, not making the opponent take TOs.
Henry posted:GBFanForLife posted:So you ASSume everyone loves Mcarthy bcuz you hated him. At least we can agree that we aren't excited to have Murphy make the decision on the next coach. Now go back to pettin your Pettine doll.
Just going to stick my finger in your eye every chance I get. I do that. We'll find an "old ball coach" to make you all feel better. Hero worship is for suckers, especially when you blame your hero's failings on everyone else.
You people think "the old ball coach" mentality isn't completely obvious?
Translator, can I get a translation here?
FLPACKER posted:Preaching to the choir here. We had exactly 2 guys playing today (Martinez & CM) that were starting at those positions at the start of the season. The whole has been better than the parts on defense this year. Pettine is the best thing about this season & I hope he is retained.
And Martinez is what he is, fine in a phone booth but absolute shit in space.
FLPACKER posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:FLPACKER posted:That is your opinion,
It's also the opinion of Pete Carroll, (just witnessed tonight) Sean McVay & Bill Belichick.
It's the correct way to use the game clock.
It's situational football & if you can't understand it, I can't help you.
WAY different situation. Yes to your approach IF we only needed a FG. We needed a TD to keep our chances to win the game alive. In that situation your only focus is to score the TD. If your best play in that situation is a run, you run it, if a pass, you pass it. Your focus is scoring a TD, not making the opponent take TOs.
No it isn't a way different situation. You'll notice Seattle ran the clock before calling a timeout. Wanna know where Andy Reid ****ed up? He didn't call a timeout to save the clock. He's the worst. Again. It's situational football & it's quite obvious you don't understand it.
Down by 5...1:20 left, Packers at the 11 yard line. Jets have 2 timeouts. You're going to get 4 chances to win the game, because the Jets are going to burn their timeouts IF YOU RUN THE ****ING CLOCK.
As you can see the Packers did NOT employ this strategy & they allowed the Jets enough time to kick a FG & tie the game.
It's quite obvious you don't understand or you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
Boris, I didn't agree with the play calling. Then after they scored, why would you kickoff to a pro bowl returner???
Ask Ron Zook - ridiculous. Same thing they did vs. the Bears punting down the middle of the field to Tarik Cohen. ****ing jeenyouses
Zook should have been left in N.Y. after the game
I perfectly understand your argument, but I don't agree with it. In the situations you cited the team's did not need a TD to win the game. My premise is that in that situation, your only objective can be to score a TD because anything else ends the game. IF a running play is deemed to not be to your advantage you reduce your chances of winning the game by 25% every time you run it. We have the ball on the 1 yard line, Jet's have stopped the clock with a TO. So you are proposing that the Packers should have run the ball twice....but tried not to score, thus reducing their chances of scoring by 50%?
I say run the ball because that is your best chance to score a TD. Why? Things just get too crowded down near the goal line passing. DB have less area to cover, too many hands deflecting passes, etc. Keep it simple and RTFB. Boy, do I miss U-71. And guess what we ended up scoring by what, Running The *$@#ing BALL.
FLPACKER posted:I perfectly understand your argument, but I don't agree with it. In the situations you cited the team's did not need a TD to win the game.
The situation I'm referring to is the Packers down by 5. They absolutely needed a TD to win.
You're definitely not understanding what I'm typing.
No, I'm alluding to your reference to the Seattle / KC game. I am strictly talking about the siutation in our game. I get what you are saying ....make the opponent use their TOs / run the clock. I am saying that when you need a TD, your only focus can be to score one & anything that reduces your chances can't be entertained.
Gute hires Tomlin after Pittsburgh fires him for missing the playoffs. Pittsburgh brings MM home. Packers vs. Steelers in the SB next year. Steelers win. McHenry has a meltdown and blames MM for the loss. Rothlesberger rapes somebody.
Theres your 2019 season in a nutshell.
Good proposal. That would be fun for sure. But we are years from entertaining a Superbowl run with this bunch.
Yeah, defending the play calls on the last drive in the 4th is asinine. You absolutely have to run the ball there on 1st and 2nd down. Worst case scenario, you score a TD on 1st down and leave all the time left.
If you get stopped on 1st and 2nd you still have 2 downs to pass OR run based on the look you get.
That said, there was some creative play design today. In particular, the play to St. Brown and the designed keepers for Rodgers. Maybe creative isn't the right word, just new for us.
Brak posted:Thanks for putting a coach in my mouth.
Good with Riley.
You're welcome.
Riley as OC, sure.
He's not gonna leave Oklahoma to be an OC.
I wonder if there is going to be one less coaching vacancy this year? If the Brown's win their last game, what are the chances that Williams doesn't get a long look to remain as HC?
The King of Oklahoma is not leaving to be anyone's squire.
Brak posted:Been in hiding. Not coping that well with the current state of my team. Wasn't that long ago that I was calculating "control our own destiny" scenarios.
Paid my bet. That hurt, but a great cause / website.
I've got tons of unpopular takes. And I own them when I'm wrong. This place, though.
Get a narrative. Defend it. Never stop. Ever.
Here's one. Tim Boyle will be a starter in the NFL. Successful by most standards.
And Tim Boyle could run this offense better than the current QB.
Merry Christmas everybody!
Are we the same person?
You know what, never mind. I don't want to know..
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...xtension-2021-season
Well I guess Pete Carroll is off the list.
I don't know who is going to be the next HC. The two guys who received the most airtime are college coaches (Northwestern and Oklahoma) so it will probably be a pro- guy, but whomever gets the nod I hope he is very insistent in his in-brief that the OL gets a serious upgrade. I have listened to all the flaws of King Aaron and how he is aging, skills eroded et.al but before we travel that route again, in 15 when McGinn wrote that article, Cook gets healthy and the O-line starts playing even better Lang toughed out several games- and GB goes on a long run. Now TJ is lost and gone forever, the whale may join him in 19 and RG will have a new face as well but there must be better O-line play before I throw the towel in on the most talented passer I ever saw. If one could be certain that 75 would be healthy for 16 games I love his gameness and toughness but like the cars I drove at the beginning to many miles on that chassis.
Now Gravedigger will have plenty of thoughts and PR is such a high priority that our highest pick will probably be in that group but should we win on Sunday the best player on the board might be a OT and that would not be a bad investment. If the God of Oklahoma arrives he might want Cody Ford to help fix his O line or Dalton Risner !
I guess we will see what transpires at 1265 but outside of John Harbaugh or Arians I am not so excited about the rest of the up and comers and McDaniel's concerns me most of all!
Murphy made some comment about getting a jump on the search process when they let McCarthy go with 4 games left. He also said it was an opportunity for Philbin to make a case for the gig and for he and Gutekunst to assess Philbin as a HC option. There were some in the media thinking that meant Philbin was a serious candidate. Since Good Guy Joe did little with this opportunity, they really didn't get any kind of a jump on the search process.
I want a defensive minded HC who brings in a fresh offensive approach. That HC could easily be Pettine.
Idk about "did little" with his opportunity. He lost to the Bears in Chicago where they only have lost one game this season. They won their first road game & hopefully win 2 home games after losing to a poor team at home. I'd be fine with Philiben as HC.
Think the Packers are probably looking for a clean break from MM and Joe doesn't provide that. Loss to the Bears likely removed him from real consideration.
GratefulPack posted:Whether they keep Pettine or not should be the new HCs decision. I hate it when guys get hired for a job and aren't given full ownership over that job (sound familiar). But in all fairness, that D is so banged up I don't know how anyone can blame Pettine at this point. Early in the season it was frustrating to see how they would look horrible one half and then actually good a second half of a game, but they kept the team in a lot of games. If King and Breeland had been able to be on the field in the middle of the season, they might have won a couple of those games and that was a really tough stretch of schedule.
This season is squarely on the offense, it might have been they weren't as talented as in years past but how a team can be 31st in rushing attempts and have the player with the highest yards per carry is pretty weird.
Personally, I am not a fan of bringing in a college coach and I don't trust Murphy at all to make a wise decision. I am interested to see who they end up with.
I also think that if King and Breeland could have somehow found their way on to the field for half the games this season I also think things would have been even better defensively. I personnally think Pettine should be thanked for the effort he has had the defense playing giving. Role players and undrafted rookies everywhere and he had them playing with purpose and determination.
I for one am NOT in favor of a college coaching coming in to GB. I just don't think there are many guys at that level that to me seem like they will do great in the NFL. To many coaches in college think all you need to do is score more than the other team and don't care that much about special teams and defense.
GB should go back to their roots and hire Aaron Rodgers as HC. Lambeau did it. We keep talking about a coach that Rodgers can respect and get along with, who does Rodgers respect more than himself? He likes Pettine also.
Pikes Peak posted:The King of Oklahoma is not leaving to be anyone's squire.
I'm totally good with that.
Riley for OC. Saban for DC. Works for me.
bdplant posted:Gute hires Tomlin after Pittsburgh fires him for missing the playoffs. Pittsburgh brings MM home. Packers vs. Steelers in the SB next year. Steelers win. McHenry has a meltdown and blames MM for the loss. Rothlesberger rapes somebody.
Theres your 2019 season in a nutshell.
You seem to be confusing calling out lunchpailer butthurt as blaming McVince. He's gone. He was fired, remember?
Feels like Bert all over again. Are you a McVince fan first?