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Tom Brady was the quarterback Stephen Ross allegedly wanted Brian Flores to meet in an alleged yacht meeting before Brady was a free agent according to a league source
— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) February 1, 2022
How, exactly, could the NFL know the claims by Flores are “without merit” two hours after the suit emerged? https://t.co/tic1LAXo8t
— Peter King (@peter_king) February 1, 2022
Any one doubt that Mr Flores will be a very rich man soon? Way sooner that any lawsuit can make it’s way thru the system.
@Harry Manback posted:Vegas won't be happy.
Dolphins and scandals, is there any better combo in sports?
Not only will Flores be a rich man, but every black coach who has a similar story and evidence will be very rich. It's a class action lawsuit, so anyone affected can join.
Sources: Jim Harbaugh plans to sign with the Minnesota Vikings #GoBlue https://t.co/jTh2W9AWL5
— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) February 1, 2022
I hope so. Next season would be a lot of fun in many ways.
Very good chance that the NFL will get itself removed as a party from this lawsuit.
And the lawyer touched every hot-button term which really doesn't go over well with federal judges. "Plantation".
And unless there is a witness or emails/papers, proving that he was offered $100,000 for each loss will be impossible to prove and will harm any case he may have.
Discovery is a two-way street.
Oh my. Talk about all-in on the race card.
"In certain critical ways, the NFL is racially segregated and is managed much like a plantation," the lawsuit said.
"Its 32 owners - none of whom are Black - profit substantially from the labor of NFL players, 70% of whom are Black. The owners watch the games from atop NFL stadiums in their luxury boxes, while their majority-Black workforce put their bodies on the line every Sunday, taking vicious hits and suffering debilitating injuries to their bodies and their brains while the NFL and its owners reap billions of dollars," it added."
https://abc7ny.com/brian-flore...ork-giants/11529834/
No one is compelled to play football.
@packerboi posted:
NFL statement on Brian Flores’ lawsuit: pic.twitter.com/LaJVJuw3gS
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 1, 2022
Not sure how you can read those texts from Hoodie and not conclude Flores' claims are valid. Congratulating Daboll before Flores even interviews. Terrible.
@Harry Manback posted:Well, it doesn't matter what color that dude is, he had to go.
Yes, I don't care if he was an elderly, disabled, transgendered, minority, satanist....he was horrible.
We shall see but I would guess nothing much comes of this.
NFL has a big wallet.
Flores is either Rosa Parks…or Tawana Brawley.
@Chongo posted:Sources: Jim Harbaugh plans to sign with the Minnesota Vikings #GoBlue https://t.co/jTh2W9AWL5
— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) February 1, 2022
Posted on previous page, Choldie.
@packerboi posted:In case anyone could not read the Billy B texts, a better tweet so you can click on them separately.
"Sorry -- I fucked up." -- Bill Belichick https://t.co/0FU3VrAJKy
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) February 1, 2022
Ooooh, he gon be rich.😂😂😂
@RochNyFan posted:Yes, I don't care if he was an elderly, disabled, transgendered, minority, satanist....he was horrible.
Sorry, but why do you hate Satanists so much. The Satori fans on thus board are gonna sue you, dude.
@Blair Kiel posted:Flores is either Rosa Parks…or Tawana Brawley.
Or somewhere in between.
I really hope this is not true. Flores was too good for Miami, but he couldn't see eye-to-eye with ownership and (probably) management, and I can see them making his working environment "uncomfortable" enough to force a change. And that sucks for anybody stuck in that position.
But if the respective owners are dumb enough to pull this kind of crap, they (and the league) deserve everything coming their way.
On a side note, I hope Gruden rakes the league over hot coals, no matter what may happen with Flores' suit.
@michiganjoe posted:Panthers hiring James Campen as OL coach.
I had noticed last week that the Panthers had hired Ben McAdoo as OC.
If I were a sports journalist, I might come up with a scenario where they could be a destination for ARod ....
@DH13 posted:It was Watson. There was chatter about MIA trying to get Watson all season. Last I heard they declined until his legal issues are resolved.
There was this report from Florio late last year that said 18 of the 22 cases could have been settled, but the Dolphins wanted all 22 put to bed for a trade to happen.
Florio was the only one to make the 18/22 claim that I saw; reports from other sources say an offer was made to 1 plaintiff who turned it down.
Either way, his legal troubles are far from over, and nobody is going to make a offer for the foreseeable future.
@Blair Kiel posted:Flores is either Rosa Parks…or Tawana Brawley.
Whoopi!
Suspect this will end up like the other lawsuits against the league- an out-of-court settlement designed to limit financial responsibility and, more importantly to the NFL, bad publicity.
@michiganjoe posted:Suspect this will end up like the other lawsuits against the league- an out-of-court settlement designed to limit financial responsibility and, more importantly to the NFL, bad publicity.
If Flores settles fuck him. You don’t force change by settling behind doors.
A trial doesn't guarantee constructive progress and a lack of one doesn't preclude it.
A bombshell lawsuit accuses the NFL of racism in hiring coaches — and now the former coach who filed it is speaking out for the first time on #CBSMornings.
— CBS Mornings (@CBSMornings) February 2, 2022
Brian Flores says, “It’s hard to speak out…but this is bigger than football. This is bigger than coaching.” pic.twitter.com/hI92p8rvEd
Think just about everyone would agree that most teams are just going through the motions of checking the box with the Rooney Rule.
Isn't the Rooney rule to blame for these show head coaching interviews? I understand the intent of it, but if a team has identified who they want as a head coach, then checking boxes doesn't benefit anyone.
Somebody help me understand. It is okay, even celebrated, that 70% of the players are minorities which would mean Caucasians are severely under represented, but the focus is on the coaches where minorities make up 35% of the pool. First, players make more money than the coaches. Second, 35% is still an over representation as the population in the US is about 15%.
I don't fucking get it.
@Goalline posted:If Flores settles fuck him. You don’t force change by settling behind doors.
Whether he settles will probably depend on how much he's paying out of pocket for his lawyers, and really what the lawyers are hoping to get out of this.
If his lawyers are doing this entirely for money and get a percentage of the final settlement, then if the number gets high enough, the lawyers will want their cut.
If his lawyers are billing him hourly as this goes along (not likely), he's going to run out of money pretty fast and he'll have to settle or risk going bankrupt.
If his lawyers (and him) are doing to effect real change with the chance of becoming famous (and opening doors politically and/or moving up in their firms), they may go all the way to trial.
If this ends with a trial that includes Stephen Ross, John Elway, Belichick, the Moras, etc. on the witness stand, it is an unmitigated disaster for the NFL. If I'm Flores lawyers, I try to get access to the Gruden/Washington Commanders emails arguing that those are likely to also establish a pattern of collusion across the NFL (given the obvious likelihood or racial stuff in those emails). In the end, I'd like to Dan Snyder and some of these other owners on the stand, but it's probably worth a billion dollars (literally) for the owners to make sure that doesn't happen.
@50k Club posted:Isn't the Rooney rule to blame for these show head coaching interviews? I understand the intent of it, but if a team has identified who they want as a head coach, then checking boxes doesn't benefit anyone.
Yes... and anyone who didn't see this coming is naïve as fuck, You can't fix racism with racist policy.
How the fuck could the Rooney rule work in the real world? Jethro, racist as fuck owner, will not hire a black candidate. Because of the Rooney rule, he has to interview Jamal. Do we really think Jamal is going to go into that interview and suddenly Jethro is not going to racist because Jamal is such a good interview? Give me a fucking break. Where is the common sense?
@CUPackFan posted:Not only will Flores be a rich man, but every black coach who has a similar story and evidence will be very rich. It's a class action lawsuit, so anyone affected can join.
David Culley was treated even worse than Flores. He was hired for a job that he had no chance in this year in Houston and was fired after one year because he "only" won 4 games with Davis Mills and Tyrod Taylor as his QBs. The second coming of Lombardi or Belichick were not going to win there this year either.
Would love to see all the Packer owners (stockholders) on the witness deposition list and eventual witness stand.
@BrainDed posted:Yes... and anyone who didn't see this coming is naïve as fuck, You can't fix racism with racist policy.
How the fuck could the Rooney rule work in the real world? Jethro, racist as fuck owner, will not hire a black candidate. Because of the Rooney rule, he has to interview Jamal. Do we really think Jamal is going to go into that interview and suddenly Jethro is not going to racist because Jamal is such a good interview? Give me a fucking break. Where is the common sense?
You are right. Guys like Dan Snyder and the other Jethro's are never going to hire the minority candidate. There is some value in the long run of having guys come in and go through the interview process because they meet with a lot of other people besides the Jethros.
For example, let's say you were a candidate to replace Holmgren in 1998 and you came in to interview (clearly not a racial problem in this case because they hired Rhodes, but just using it as example). You'd obviously meet with Ron Wolf and probably Bob Harlan, but you'd also have gotten to talk to John Dorsey, Ted Thompson, Reggie McKenzie, etc. Maybe you don't have a real chance, but the opportunity to sit in a room and talk with those other guys for an hour or so may open a door for you a few years later when Dorsey is looking to hire someone and remembers how good you were in your interview.
Down the road those connections and networking opportunities may provide unforeseen opportunities. The problem is that takes years or decades to pay off.
Ron Rivera?
Dad, Puerto Rican, mother Mexican…..does he qualify as a minority?
Broncos hired former Packers’ TE coach Justin Outten as their offensive coordinator, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 2, 2022
Another vacancy for MLF to fill.
@Pikes Peak posted:Ron Rivera?
Dad, Puerto Rican, mother Mexican…..does he qualify as a minority?
For now. In 20 years time?
@michiganjoe posted:Broncos hired former Packers’ TE coach Justin Outten as their offensive coordinator, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 2, 2022Another vacancy for MLF to fill.
Have Big Dog retire and name him as TE coach. 