Something about Jabrill Peppers concerns me. Granted, I didn't see him play more than a half dozen games in his career, but he just seems like a lot of hype because of playing both O and D. I'm not sure if he has a definitive position although I could probably see him as a safety. I think he only had 1 pick in his career and that came at the end of this last year so I'm wondering if he's much of a turnover creating impact type player. I could be totally wrong but that's just my uneducated observation.
Always have felt Kendricks was more talented than his production indicated. Interesting to see how he'll do with a HOF QB throwing him the ball and how MM will use he and Bennett together.
Maxi54 posted:Something about Jabrill Peppers concerns me. Granted, I didn't see him play more than a half dozen games in his career, but he just seems like a lot of hype because of playing both O and D. I'm not sure if he has a definitive position although I could probably see him as a safety. I think he only had 1 pick in his career and that came at the end of this last year so I'm wondering if he's much of a turnover creating impact type player. I could be totally wrong but that's just my uneducated observation.
That guy is an out and out 46.
Peppers becomes the player we all wished Hyde would become minus the racism. Slot nickel hybrid guy that can run with anyone. Plays the run. Blitzes like Woodson. Even though he ain't Woodson.
Ted may opt to go pure big corner or edge rusher. He may go guard and take Lamp.
Still a lot of time in FA to play out to see what might make the most sense. Keeping Perry is a big deal though. Opens up the draft board.
Kendrick runs pretty well
Maxi54 posted:Something about Jabrill Peppers concerns me. Granted, I didn't see him play more than a half dozen games in his career, but he just seems like a lot of hype because of playing both O and D. I'm not sure if he has a definitive position although I could probably see him as a safety. I think he only had 1 pick in his career and that came at the end of this last year so I'm wondering if he's much of a turnover creating impact type player. I could be totally wrong but that's just my uneducated observation.
I think Michigan had him doing so many different things that he never got the chance to nail down 1 position which I think killed his stats. You can get away with that in the NFL, but in college you have a very limited amount of practice time. Taking time to learn offensive plays and playing different positions on defense allows minimal time to learn 1 position. The position he played most frequently was LB, which isn't ideal for him. He shouldn't be taking on OL as a Mike or Sam LB, he should be freelancing at Safety or at WLB in a Tampa 2. Really he should be playing the exact position Woodson played in GB, mostly Nickel, but a little bit of LB/S/Pass Rusher in certain situations. Michigan had the right idea to an extent, but I'm not sure that kind of position really works in college. I like Peppers, he seems like a bright kid, he has a great attitude, insane swagger, and has all the tools to play different positions. We talk about the mismatches Ty Montgomery presents, I think Peppers offers some mismatches on the defensive side.
ChilliJon posted:Peppers becomes the player we all wished Hyde would become minus the racism. Slot nickel hybrid guy that can run with anyone. Plays the run. Blitzes like Woodson. Even though he ain't Woodson.
Ted may opt to go pure big corner or edge rusher. He may go guard and take Lamp.
Still a lot of time in FA to play out to see what might make the most sense. Keeping Perry is a big deal though. Opens up the draft board.
I don't know, Peppers is pretty racist too.
Maybe just seeing the impact that having a real TE had this year when Cook was on the field convinced them of the value of that position. Especially when you have a guy like Rodgers at QB that throws guys open. You don't have to much separation
Nice signing on Kendricks. I always thought he was a sleeper and with a real QB throwing him the ball he could become a legit threat.
As for Peppers, I guess I don't see the appeal. Some want to compare him to Woodson but they are different in so many ways. C Wood had better coverage skills and just better instinctiveness. The guy was a ballhawk.
Jabril is a good athlete but his strengths will be neutralized a bit at this next level. In a way he reminds me of Reggie Bush but on D.
Tschmack posted:As for Peppers, I guess I don't see the appeal. Some want to compare him to Woodson but they are different in so many ways. C Wood had better coverage skills and just better instinctiveness. The guy was a ballhawk.
Jabril is a good athlete but his strengths will be neutralized a bit at this next level. In a way he reminds me of Reggie Bush but on D.
I don't see the appeal either. A guy like Adoree Jackson did everything Peppers did and did it better.
This is supposed to be a deep tight end class but Thompson must not think so. Surprised he'd go after a player like Kendricks instead of investing a draft pick in the position.
Well FWIW, the Patriot school of thought is to fill glaring holes in FA to keep need from impacting BPA. A TE in R1 feels like a stretch now, but could still come early.
Peppers has trouble on the back end which is why he got moved to linebacker. And for a guy who was supposed to be a spectacular athlete, some of his combine numbers put him more in the good but not great category. He's a box safety and I don't know how well that plays with the way the NFL is today.
Best part about him is the insurance aspect. He could turn out to be pretty mediocre on defense but still could become a valuable piece as a return specialist. No question the guy can return kicks and punts and will probably do a pretty good job of it at the next level.
Now we move to the two-TE sets that can either help road-grade holes for our RBs or go down the field and make plays. I like this also because it helps protect us against injury. No RBs? Throw to the TEs. No WRs? Send out the TEs. And in the red zone it's a matchup nightmare and leaves the D wondering if it's a run or pass. MM has some shiny new toys!
This is the exact situation where someone gets injures and turns the roster upside down again.
Love, kworst.
Fandame posted:Now we move to the two-TE sets that can either help road-grade holes for our RBs
Wrong tight ends to road-grade holes for RBs.
PackerJoe posted:Peppers has trouble on the back end
TMI
What was the longest stretch of games started by Tretter?
Thank you Uncle Ted on Perry.
Lol.. you couldn't even squeeze in one sentence between your contradiction.
vitaflo posted:Tschmack posted:As for Peppers, I guess I don't see the appeal. Some want to compare him to Woodson but they are different in so many ways. C Wood had better coverage skills and just better instinctiveness. The guy was a ballhawk.
Jabril is a good athlete but his strengths will be neutralized a bit at this next level. In a way he reminds me of Reggie Bush but on D.
I don't see the appeal either. A guy like Adoree Jackson did everything Peppers did and did it better.
Jackson is a great athlete. Sometimes he relies way to much on that athleticism and doesn't focus enough on technique. And he gets scorched. Case in point. Here is John Ross giving Adoree a real quick slant and then turning it into a vertical. Adoree never had a chance. He crumbled.
I get that Ross is a crafty WR that uses his feet and head to sell routes but Adoree should never get put on the ground on a route like that. Great athlete. Needs work as a corner.
Chalk me up as not a huge Peppers fan. Even worse if we draft him and don't fire Capers
IL_Pack_Fan posted:Well FWIW, the Patriot school of thought is to fill glaring holes in FA to keep need from impacting BPA. A TE in R1 feels like a stretch now, but could still come early.
I'd still take OJ Howard in a heartbeat.
mrtundra posted:Just read that Sidney Jones, CB, who was a consensus 1st round pick this year just tore his Achilles during Washington's Pro Day. Witnesses say it was a significant injury. Jones was picked to go to the Packers with their 29th pick in the 1st round by several mock drafts. How will this affect TT's draft? Will he have to move up to nab a CB or will there still be quality people available at 29?
Wait... What!? He got injured before we drafted him? Good grief, 2017 may be shaping up as Times Five.
Now that we have Kendricks we wont feel the need to draft another UW guy. With Kendricks we know watt we get. 
Now on our new FA's, as I posted elsewhere, TT's track record shows that FA's know that if TT gets them a contract they might actually get the whole contract and not get cut after a year or so.
Is this official about Kendricks?
If so, then I am pleased.
This Bennett-Kendricks two-TE set should be an amazing addition to this offense. It's by far the best stable of TEs Rodgers has played with, and it should open up things for the rest of the offense. Rodgers must be thrilled.
I have to give credit to TT. He stepped out of his comfort zone, but he's done a good job thus far supplementing the roster. Hopefully he can now turn is attention to the defense and o-line.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Maybe just seeing the impact that having a real TE had this year when Cook was on the field convinced them of the value of that position.
They also discovered the need for quality depth when Cook went down and Kendricks provides that. Shoring up the TE position in this way just leaves TT with more picks to attempt to fix the defense.
PackerJoe posted:This is supposed to be a deep tight end class but Thompson must not think so. Surprised he'd go after a player like Kendricks instead of investing a draft pick in the position.
TT may still draft a TE.
Tschmack posted:Jabril is a good athlete but his strengths will be neutralized a bit at this next level. In a way he reminds me of Reggie Bush but on D.
If whoever they draft has a RB-esque career, I will be happy. Your posts make me laugh.
Reggie Bush was everyone's darling in college because he could bounce it to the outside and outrun people. Not so much in the pros. He had an OK career but nothing special.
Glad I could oblige CB. Your posts make me want to gouge my eyes out.
PackerJoe posted:Fandame posted:Now we move to the two-TE sets that can either help road-grade holes for our RBs
Wrong tight ends to road-grade holes for RBs.
That's the beauty, I think they actually can with this pair. Bennett has a rep as one of the best blocking TEs in the game. Haven't heard as much about Kendricks, but the book on him seems to be a fairly well rounded TE.
These BR grades are completely subjective, but a better starting point than I can offer:
http://bleacherreport.com/arti...-leagues-top-players
Compared to the absolute inability/indifference we've watched with Richie and Finley, these guys might just add something to the run game. And more exciting, in the PA game.
PackerJoe posted:This is supposed to be a deep tight end class but Thompson must not think so. Surprised he'd go after a player like Kendricks instead of investing a draft pick in the position.
My thought was more he thinks Howard and Njoku go early and he's going to farm pass rushers, cover guys and maybe a big man early.
The other thing I wonder is if TT doesn't see next year's draft as looking all that strong so he's less worried about compensatory picks.
Kendricks was cut by the Rams. Won't factor into comp evaluation in 2018. Solid pick up /move by Ted.
Is NFL Network broadcasting Lang's "Decision"? Guy is full of himself.
Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free press said Lang told him this morning he'd make a decision today. Had to think he was headed to the Lions. Just confirmed. 3 year deal with Detroit.
Ted will probably have to troll the free agent market like he did with Kendricks for a right guard candidate. There might not be any decent starting guard candidates after the 50th pick in the draft (terrible offensive line class) and it's doubtful that Thompson would want to use the first rounder on a guard. Spriggs was so horrible last year that Barclay was first off the bench in the final game, and I hate to think that Barclay would be considered for a starter's role and too much of a risk to think Spriggs/Murphy will make that jump to starter quality. LG wasn't a black hole but wasn't a position of strength for the Packers last year, interior of the line is looking a bit shakey right now (except for Linsley who is rock-solid!).