Hungry5 posted:TE was looking back for the ball, but Hyde made the play on it.
Yup, looked like even if RGIII makes a better throw to his TE (who is apparently much less athletic than Hyde) , I believe Hyde still makes a strong play on the ball(either picks it or breaks it up). He is in great position and sees it all the way.
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FinnLander posted:BrainDed posted:Herschel posted:Hyde is a conundrum. He's smart, instinctive and versatile, but he's also slow. On his interception against Cleveland, for example, if Barnidge turns his head he likely catches that mostly in-stride, but Hyde had to dive because he was behind Barnidge. He defintely took advantage of Cleveland's mistake, but against a competent play he likely didn't have the speed/athleticism to even break it up.
That's how I saw it as well. Hyde was trailing and if the TE turns his head and sees the pass coming, that was a TD.
Good for Hyde for taking advantage of the mistake, but please don't try to sell me on that being some spectacular play. If he cut in front and made the pick, now that's a play to applaud.
It's really easy to play football from the couch.
Oh Snap!
FinnLander posted:BrainDed posted:Herschel posted:Hyde is a conundrum. He's smart, instinctive and versatile, but he's also slow. On his interception against Cleveland, for example, if Barnidge turns his head he likely catches that mostly in-stride, but Hyde had to dive because he was behind Barnidge. He defintely took advantage of Cleveland's mistake, but against a competent play he likely didn't have the speed/athleticism to even break it up.
That's how I saw it as well. Hyde was trailing and if the TE turns his head and sees the pass coming, that was a TD.
Good for Hyde for taking advantage of the mistake, but please don't try to sell me on that being some spectacular play. If he cut in front and made the pick, now that's a play to applaud.
It's really easy to play football from the couch.
It's very easy to see Hyde's issue is speed, which is why he was drafted late. Nobody is saying he's a terrible player, so un-bunch your panties there skippy, but he's no Darrell Green either.
Hyde is also not a racist, despite what I hear some people are saying. Not me, mind you, but I hear people are saying it.
Herschel posted:On his interception against Cleveland, for example, if Barnidge turns his head he likely catches that mostly in-stride, but Hyde had to dive because he was behind Barnidge.
Yes, if only Barnidge had turned his head to see the ball.
Barnidge has his head turned before the ball was thrown.
It was a bad pass from a bad QB. There was little chance of that pass being completed. Coverage was good. Hyde broke first on a poorly thrown ball. Not sure why we're arguing over a pick.
Not arguing, just pointing out to Herschel that he's wrong about that play.
And isn't that double coverage?
I'm with you here H5. Questioning why others are dismissing the coverage and break on the ball by Hyde. Maybe RG thought Barnidge would bend that route inside more given Hydes position. I think it was just a crap throw that he shouldn't have made in the first place.
Saying its a completion if Barnidge gets his head turned isn't accurate. He swung his head before that ball was thrown.
Hyde did everything right on the play.
Great to see a DB hold onto a pick as well. 
By the time Barnidge turned the ball was already out. If it's a decent pass / route, it's a TD.
Hyde is the new AJ Hawk. Slow and consistently beaten but a coach on the field so he is way over valued.
Herschel posted:FinnLander posted:BrainDed posted:Herschel posted:Hyde is a conundrum. He's smart, instinctive and versatile, but he's also slow. On his interception against Cleveland, for example, if Barnidge turns his head he likely catches that mostly in-stride, but Hyde had to dive because he was behind Barnidge. He defintely took advantage of Cleveland's mistake, but against a competent play he likely didn't have the speed/athleticism to even break it up.
That's how I saw it as well. Hyde was trailing and if the TE turns his head and sees the pass coming, that was a TD.
Good for Hyde for taking advantage of the mistake, but please don't try to sell me on that being some spectacular play. If he cut in front and made the pick, now that's a play to applaud.
It's really easy to play football from the couch.
It's very easy to see Hyde's issue is speed, which is why he was drafted late. Nobody is saying he's a terrible player, so un-bunch your panties there skippy, but he's no Darrell Green either.
Hyde is also not a racist, despite what I hear some people are saying. Not me, mind you, but I hear people are saying it.
Speaking of Skippy, you'll have time to make yourself a PB&J and get back to the couch for the next play since it'll take Hyde so long to make it back to the huddle.
The fact that RG3 got hit on nearly every previous throw he'd made prior to the INT. factors into the "suckiness" of the pass.
ChilliJon posted:I'm with you here H5. Questioning why others are dismissing the coverage and break on the ball by Hyde. Maybe RG thought Barnidge would bend that route inside more given Hydes position. I think it was just a crap throw that he shouldn't have made in the first place.
Saying its a completion if Barnidge gets his head turned isn't accurate. He swung his head before that ball was thrown.
Hyde did everything right on the play.
Great to see a DB hold onto a pick as well.
Who is questioning his break on the ball? Barnidge turned late, didn't adjust to a mediocre ball. Griffen is not a "throw a guy open" QB. Hyde is trailing even in these pictures, he's a bit behind. Barnidge didn't make the play he should make, Hyde made a good play. That doesn't make Hyde any faster, nor does it make Barnidge look any better for not stretching when the guy trailing him had to dive and still make the play.
Switch Barnidge with DaVante Adams and the board would be livid with Adams for not making that catch.
FinnLander posted:Speaking of Skippy, you'll have time to make yourself a PB&J and get back to the couch for the next play since it'll take Hyde so long to make it back to the huddle.
Jif creamy and no jelly.
BrainDed posted:By the time Barnidge turned the ball was already out. If it's a decent pass / route, it's a TD.
Hyde is the new AJ Hawk. Slow and consistently beaten but a coach on the field so he is way over valued.
In 2015 he tied for 1st on the team in INTs, 4th in total tackles, 4th in PDef as the #3 Safety on the team. If he was starting over anyone I would say maybe you're right, but I think he's being properly valued.
It's a trade-off. Hyde does so many things well he can help alleviate his lack of pure speed at times, but we also see instances where he simply lacks the wheels to make plays. He's a guy some teams will target, and rightly so, but if you make a mistake, he'll usually make you regret it.
Herschel posted:FinnLander posted:Speaking of Skippy, you'll have time to make yourself a PB&J and get back to the couch for the next play since it'll take Hyde so long to make it back to the huddle.
Jif creamy and no jelly.
Negro, that's crunchy, not creamy. You know. More like your thighs.
Herschel posted:It's a trade-off. Hyde does so many things well he can help alleviate his lack of pure speed at times, but we also see instances where he simply lacks the wheels to make plays. He's a guy some teams will target, and rightly so, but if you make a mistake, he'll usually make you regret it.
There have been games where the other team's mission was to simply isolate him on a fast TE and those teams appear to do whatever they want to him.
By the time Barnidge turned the ball was already out.
And at the same time...
Hyde is trailing even in these pictures, he's a bit behind.
And yet...
Hyde made a good play.
How do he do it? Like a thermos, how do it know to keep hot things hot and cold things cold?
Barnidge didn't make the play, he failed.
Hyde made the tougher play from a worse position. He made "swept up" their failure.
Would it shock you to know Hyde ran faster at the combine than Haha?
No, because there are a number of factors in the 40, the main one being it's a 40-yard, straight-line sprint in shorts from a starting block.
So when you say "pure speed" you're referring to immeasurable and subjective on-field speed rather than the objective measurable speed where every player runs from the same spot for the same distance in the same conditions?
So you're saying the best relay team should be the starting d-backs?
Pure speed
Immeasurable speed
Subjective speed
Football speed
I'm just pointing out that you keep calling him slow when he is measurably faster than our starting Safety, who I've never heard any complaints about his speed. That's not at all to say he's better than HaHa or should even be playing more, but he's not prohibitively slow.
Goalline posted:Herschel posted:FinnLander posted:Speaking of Skippy, you'll have time to make yourself a PB&J and get back to the couch for the next play since it'll take Hyde so long to make it back to the huddle.
Jif creamy and no jelly.
Negro, that's crunchy, not creamy. You know. More like your thighs.
And easily spreadable.
Thanks bud. Now, I'll never get that visual out of my head.
FinnLander posted:BrainDed posted:Herschel posted:Hyde is a conundrum. He's smart, instinctive and versatile, but he's also slow. On his interception against Cleveland, for example, if Barnidge turns his head he likely catches that mostly in-stride, but Hyde had to dive because he was behind Barnidge. He defintely took advantage of Cleveland's mistake, but against a competent play he likely didn't have the speed/athleticism to even break it up.
That's how I saw it as well. Hyde was trailing and if the TE turns his head and sees the pass coming, that was a TD.
Good for Hyde for taking advantage of the mistake, but please don't try to sell me on that being some spectacular play. If he cut in front and made the pick, now that's a play to applaud.
It's really easy to play football from the couch.
It's not that easy. When we were kids, my brother and I were playing football on the couch, and we crashed into the Christmas tree. Mom and Dad were pissed.
I played football on the couch in high school with my girlfriend. She took a pounding but ended up on top anyway!
I bet you put on one hell of a two minute offense that night.
Two minutes is being generous.
1 minute. But I had 2 Time-outs remaining.
She wanted to go for 2, but he didn't think he had the necessary manpower.
One time I beat up Mr Baldy on the couch.
What are we talking about again?
The slow brother. Micah Hyde.
SanDiegoPackFan posted:1 minute. But I had 2 Time-outs remaining.
And a water break?
Micah isn't slow. He's a racist. And hates the draft. But he's not slow.
Grave Digger posted:Would it shock you to know Hyde ran faster at the combine than Haha?
No. Not shocked.
Hyde's 40-time was faster than Jerry Rice's combine time too. Go figure. It's almost as if running in game conditions, cutting, tackling, getting gassed, making fast quick bursts then sprinting, and reacting to what 21 other guys are doing while you're running will somehow affect your comparative straight line speed registered in shorts and pristine conditions.
