Ridley is very good, but doesn't have the look of a "go to" #1 IMO. He's just so frail looking. Maybe I'm wrong but if you take a WR at 14 he should be alpha dog. Would rather get an impact defensive player or OT in round 1and then WR later rounds.
DJ Moore looks like a player .... cant watch tape on him without thinking of Steve Smith. Guy is a baller. Adding a guy like that to the WR fleet would add fire power.
Now, barring a trade, the Ravens and Redskins would likely have to use their top selection on Moore if they want to keep him close to College Park, as they both have picks in the top half of the draft (No. 13 for the Redskins, No. 16 for the Ravens) but don’t pick again until later slots (No. 44, No. 52) in Round Two.
It seemed unlikely only a couple months ago but multiple NFL Draft experts see Moore going to either the Redskins or Ravens in the top-16 as a possibility.
NFL.com’s Chad Reuter projected Moore to the Redskins at No. 13 as the first receiver taken in his latest mock draft Tuesday.
“Alex Smith is coming to town, so finding him a reliable, quick, and strong-handed target like Moore makes all kinds of sense,” he wrote.
The Redskins drafted Josh Doctson in the first round two years ago and found Jamison Crowder in the same draft as Diggs, but they could still target a receiver early after losing Ryan Grant to the Indianapolis Colts in free agency.
Meanwhile, NDTDraftscouting.com wrote Monday that the Ravens are one of the three best fits for Moore, along with the Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers.
https://maryland.247sports.com...irst-Round-116495127
Now that we've signed Tramon, we can focus on drafting a punter
A 35 year old cornerback? Yup, that’s EXACTLY what this defense needs 
Chris Canty just dropped a BOMB on Golic & Wingo. The Giants might move UP to #1 to get Sam Darnold. He said the Giant's really think highly of Darnold.
If the Giants can't get Darnold they might move down with the Bills
That's a weird one to judge on cost. Cleveland is "down" to nine picks, but five are in the first two rounds. Would they maybe swap 1 & 64 for 2 & 34? The Browns would have the first three picks in the second then while the Giants would still have a second, albeit the very last one.
YooperPackfan posted:A 35 year old cornerback? Yup, that’s EXACTLY what this defense needs
Are you seriously going to bitch about this after all the bitching about TT not bringing vets in the past?
Tramon is a perfect stop gap because he can actually still play.
Herschel posted:That's a weird one to judge on cost. Cleveland is "down" to nine picks, but five are in the first two rounds. Would they maybe swap 1 & 64 for 2 & 34? The Browns would have the first three picks in the second then while the Giants would still have a second, albeit the very last one.
It would take a helluva lot more than that. Look what the Bears gave up last year to swap spots.
And um Yooperfan....if the only thing you're going to do is bitch at every single move, I'll sick Jaymo & Brown Paper Sack on you. They're getting hungry anyway & need a few more Viking fans for the bandwagon.
Henry posted:Are you seriously going to bitch about this after all the bitching about TT not bringing vets in the past?
Tramon is a perfect stop gap because he can actually still play.
You don't get it. Once a player hits 30 we might as well put them on an iceberg. Old players have no business in the league. That walking skeleton Tom Brady needs to be put down.
You better revise that statement before you have to start explaining the difference between Darrell Green to Bill Schroeder.
Brainwashed Boris posted:I'll sick Jaymo & Brown Paper Sack on you.
Maybe Sackus "Plumps When You Cook 'Em" Maximus. I broke the Wee Bunny.
Henry posted:YooperPackfan posted:A 35 year old cornerback? Yup, that’s EXACTLY what this defense needs
Are you seriously going to bitch about this after all the bitching about TT not bringing vets in the past?
Tramon is a perfect stop gap because he can actually still play.
I do understand his sentiment, however. When Woodson came to town I think he was 28 or 29 with a lot more seasons left in him. The way the league is now Tramon probably 2-3 (good ones) at most. But signing a veteran doesn't mean signing a guy that's on the verge of calling it quits who's looking to relive the glory days one or two last times.
What concerns me about this off-season is that the strategy appears to simply draft what we need with our 12 lottery tickets and hope they work out.
Rodgers is effectively in a contract year, and they need to show him that they're going to build a team around him (not just an offense). I don't think that firing his favorite coach and favorite receiver is exactly the right way to start that process.
If they sign Matthews and Reid:
O - Rodgers QB, Williams/Jones RB, Adams, Mathews, Cobb WR, Graham TE, Bak, Taylor, Linsley, Evans, Bulaga OL.
Draft some OL depth. But that offense will do just fine with the addition of Philbin.
D - Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson DL, Clay, Martinez, Ryan, Perry LB, King, Tramon, Rollins DB, Dix, Reid S.
Draft edge and a DB or two for depth. Very interested to see what Pettine could do with that lineup though.
The strategy this offseason isn't to simply rely on 12 draft picks and hope for the best. Far from it.
Good analysis Chili
ChilliJon posted:If they sign Matthews and Reid:
O - Rodgers QB, Williams/Jones RB, Adams, Mathews, Cobb WR, Graham TE, Bak, Taylor, Linsley, Evans, Bulaga OL.
Draft some OL depth. But that offense will do just fine with the addition of Philbin.
D - Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson DL, Clay, Martinez, Ryan, Perry LB, King, Tramon, Rollins DB, Dix, Reid S.
Draft edge and a DB or two for depth. Very interested to see what Pettine could do with that lineup though.
The strategy this offseason isn't to simply rely on 12 draft picks and hope for the best. Far from it.
For the most needed aspect of our secondary it's pretty evident we're relying on the draft. I have zero anticipation for the Packers signing Reid.
We need veteran CBs first and foremost.
— Mike Daniels (@Mike_Daniels76) March 23, 2018
NumberThree posted:Henry posted:YooperPackfan posted:A 35 year old cornerback? Yup, that’s EXACTLY what this defense needs
Are you seriously going to bitch about this after all the bitching about TT not bringing vets in the past?
Tramon is a perfect stop gap because he can actually still play.
I do understand his sentiment, however. When Woodson came to town I think he was 28 or 29 with a lot more seasons left in him. The way the league is now Tramon probably 2-3 (good ones) at most. But signing a veteran doesn't mean signing a guy that's on the verge of calling it quits who's looking to relive the glory days one or two last times.
What concerns me about this off-season is that the strategy appears to simply draft what we need with our 12 lottery tickets and hope they work out.
Rodgers is effectively in a contract year, and they need to show him that they're going to build a team around him (not just an offense). I don't think that firing his favorite coach and favorite receiver is exactly the right way to start that process.
And yet the offseason isn't over. Nobody is saying Tramon is a starter but he sure could if need be. I have no doubt another high round CB will be incoming as well. Yes, having guys like Tramon and House is a good thing for young guys, especially a guy that's played in Pettine's scheme.
Just because the Packers are using FA it would seem some think all positions need to filled with FA's. That's pretty f'in dumb. If Gorkenhorse moves away from building through the draft he's an idiot.
12 lottery tickets? In case you didn't hear, nothing in life is certain except Vikings Spring championships and death.
Again, Packers fans are like a virgin at an orgy when it comes to FA.
I agree we need to keep in mind that the offseason isn't over. There is of course the draft and then the cuts that come later on when some veteran players are cap casualties (June 1st?).
I expect a lot of wheeling and dealing that is still to come in the draft and still exploring every option in free agency. I like what the new GM is doing he has an aggressive plan to get things done. And one other wild card is that Ted is still scouting isnt he? I wouldn't ever discount him for where he finds players if he just concentrates on scouting. And of course correct me if I am wrong and he isn't scouting anymore.
Every move Gute has made thus far, inclusive of the likelihood they sign Matthews lessens the absolute NEED to find day one starters in the draft. He still needs refill the cupboard with young long term talent. And he needs to continue building this team via the draft.
But you take away Mo, Graham, Tramon, and potentially Matthews and Gute would be in much more of a "nail this draft or else" position today. He's getting closer to actually being able to take 12 consecutive BPA with a little more freedom to move up or down if the situation presents itself.
It would take a helluva lot more than that. Look what the Bears gave up last year to swap spots.
Well, the Bears are stupid. What's the Giants' excuse?
Henry posted:YooperPackfan posted:A 35 year old cornerback? Yup, that’s EXACTLY what this defense needs
Are you seriously going to bitch about this after all the bitching about TT not bringing vets in the past?
Tramon is a perfect stop gap because he can actually still play.
Beyond being able to give them at least one solid season, he also brings leadership and a veteran presence to a young secondary that desperately needs it.
That's about all I will be expecting from him and hopefully he is only called on for spot duty. It's really rare for a CB his age to have had a season like he had last year after two mediocre seasons before. Even more rare for him to repeat it at another year older. I fully expect to be rolling with King and a rook on the boundaries.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tramon play poorly when he was under Pettine ? His best work as of late came under Bettcher in Arizona I believe. Hopefully Pettine uses him like Arizona did.
Gorkenhorse is my new favorite GM moniker.
I'll take Glutes.
I had the same thought about Tramon/Poutine. But I think if Tramom was as bad as he looked in CLE, Petti would have voiced as much to Glutes and he wouldn't have been brought in.
DH13 posted:I fully expect to be rolling with King and a rook on the boundaries.
I would think that's the hope of the staff also, with Williams as a fall back plan or a buffer if the rookie's not ready week 1. He's ideally a depth guy.
Packdog posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tramon play poorly when he was under Pettine ? His best work as of late came under Bettcher in Arizona I believe. Hopefully Pettine uses him like Arizona did.
Don't harsh our buzz.
What the **** amount of money would a Viking fan be ok with paying a former player that could still ball that broke up a 4th down pass that Joe Buck swore was PI in real time but wasn't close at all to PI if that play cemented a Viking Super Bowl Title? What's that amount worth to a Viking fan? $550 Billion? Facebook? Bill Gates???
Shut the ever living **** up you jealous assed clown.
#WinningSuperBowls
Notice it's plural.
What would they be paying him today if they kept him?
Viking hope has flipped you over and done you dry. And left you no change and a bus schedule.
Trey Johnson interest
Since we draft before Ravens this year, maybe we can beat Ozzie to the punch.
I tend to think the Packer's personnel is near the bottom of the entire league. Needs at WR (too little speed, big drop off after Adams), TE, DB (huge lack of talent), OL, LB...
If we really do need an edge rusher, add DL, but I think DL as is, is pretty good.
Even if that's true....and I don't think it is......they still have the ONE player that can carry them to a title.
I'd put their talent level middle of the league to slightly below. No worse than 20th.
When you add the QB, it vaults to top 10. Minimum
I sure hear you on Rodgers since I think he may be the best all time.
I would say entire offensive backfield is all set.
Even if my sense is correct, the Eagles have shown me a team can improve amazingly fast. Hard to believe the whole Chip Kelley madness was not that long ago. I thought he devastated their roster and look at them now.
Packdog posted:— Mike Daniels (@Mike_Daniels76) March 23, 2018
I get the Iowa love, but this guy is moving down the draft boards.
Maybe if here, Big Mike could motivate him some. Critics have mentioned that Jackson seems to lack it. I am not sure I buy that based just on the combine alone. But, he is not as fast as expected. At least not for pick #14.
