Official 2021 Draft Thread

As long as we are talking draft capital

The entire 2015 draft was a disaster.  

Outside of Kenny Clark, the entire 2016 draft was a disaster.

2017 they hit a home run on Aaron Jones.  But they will forever be remembered for passing on TJW who is a perennial All Pro.

2018 is the year of Jaire Alexander but it’s almost a repeat of the 2016 draft w/exception of MVS.

2019 draft is looking much better now with Gary and Savage improving and Elgton Jenkins is an absolute stud.  Keke is OK where they took him.

Then there’s 2020.  Dillon and Martin and Runyan look to be OK choices.   Deguara flashed potential then got hurt.

All in all, not a healthy or productive use of draft resources the last 5-6 years.  Many defensive players in particular were or have been horrible.  Burks, Dumarious Randall, Josh Jackson, Josh Jones, Mont Adams, Quentin Rollins, JFC.   That’s a decade worth of misses in the span of a few drafts.  

You don’t simply flip the switch and recover from that level of suck.  Gute is trying, but damn those are some shit drafts especially in TTs final years.

This is going to be a long 76 days until the draft.

@H5 posted:

Thompson drafted Rodgers in '05, and then another QB in '06.

And two more in '08!

I have a buddy who is a Chiefs fan and you have to wonder if they feel the same way as Packers fans do?  

I mean, the Chiefs got throttled and honestly their defense was exposed a lot more than GB was.   Offenses this year were similar, but the AFC is loaded and if Russ Wilson or Deshaun Watson get traded to a Miami or Indy it’s going to be difficult for KC to get back.  

In the NFC, the Bucs are likely the team to beat, the Rams should be decent, but who else scares you?   The Packers should be in good position to run it back.

The team that won the Super Bowl.

Can't wait for our boat parade on the Fox next year!

@H5 posted:

This is going to be a long 76 days until the draft.

#FYJL

@Chongo posted:

Must remind everyone @UCF_Football DB Richie Grant is a safety by trade, not a corner. Numerous reps like this one where @rgrant1525 blankets WR during Senior Bowl week. Probably the best finisher in this year’s game. There’s a reason why he’s a hot guy in the league right now.🔥 pic.twitter.com/j2iGGRxOcJ

— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) February 12, 2021

He, Jevon Holland and Tariq Thompson are ridiculously intriguing as players. They could make an extremely versatile nickel from day 1. I would love them to get one of the three.

Which means they will get none.

@Pikes Peak posted:

They had a whole half to make up for that one brain fart.

Seems doable.

Except for the Jones bed shitting.

@Chongo posted:

Enough of this “all in”.  Like these 10 players would make a difference.

@GBFanForLife posted:

Except for the Jones bed shitting.

How many minutes left after that?

@Pikes Peak posted:

Can't wait for our boat parade on the Fox next year!

More like a snowmobile and four wheeler/ UTV  parade on the frozen Fox. 

@Pikes Peak posted:

How many minutes left after that?

Obviously the roll ran out.

@Henry posted:

You mean the-icon, everybody's favorite racist?   Unless he cloned himself as an ubermensch that wouldn't predicate "some".

I thought Micah Hyde was everybody's favorite racist.

@Henry posted:

#FYJL

John Lennon?

Gutekunst must've been wearing a disguise.

I just want a LB named Tuf

@Henry posted:

#FYJL

Justice League?

Jennifer Lopez

Juicy Lemons

@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:

Jennifer Lopez

Now that I could get behind.

I think there's a hidden meaning here.

@Tschmack posted:

In the NFC, the Bucs are likely the team to beat, the Rams should be decent, but who else scares you?   The Packers should be in good position to run it back.

TB has a bunch of high end FA's, we'll see how they handle it.  SF will be right back at it, especially if they sort out the QB.  GB faces really tough schedule. Key may be to just win the division and peak in January playing on the road.

@Tschmack posted:

The 2020 Packers were a Super Bowl caliber team.   It took a lot of things to happen for them to lose that game against TB.   They should have advanced.  

The 2019 team?   Not so much.  The 49ers backs are still running all over that squad.  They barely beat the Seahawks and got worked the following week.

For some discussion, here's the snap counts for the title games in January 2020 and January 2021.

I hadn't thought of it this way before, but the ILBs they played against Tampa Bay did not play a single snap in the title game last year. Literally the only other player on the entire defense who played snaps this year that didn't play last year was Harrison (a guy who was claimed off waivers a couple of weeks prior to this game).

Gutey's moves were to bring in Kirksey and draft Martin in the 5th round. No other contributors on defense were added. Would another defender in Rounds 1-4 or another free agent guy helped? That's what this thread will continue to discuss.

https://www.acmepackingcompany...the-run-even-in-base

https://www.acmepackingcompany...ams-puzzling-absence

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2020 Defensive Linemen

Kenny Clark 50, Dean Lowry 49, Tyler Lancaster 35, Kingsley Keke 11, Montravius Adams 6

2021 Defensive Linemen

Kenny Clark 60, Dean Lowry 49, Damon Harrison 16, Tyler Lancaster 12

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2020 Outside Linebackers

Preston Smith 52, Za’Darius Smith 51, Kyler Fackrell 20, Rashan Gary 3

2021 Outside Linebackers

Za’Darius Smith 57, Preston Smith 50, Rashan Gary 42

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2020 Inside Linebackers

Blake Martinez 52, B.J. Goodson 39, Ibraheim Campbell 5, Oren Burks 3

2021 Inside Linebackers

Krys Barnes 37, Christian Kirksey 29, Ty Summers 28, Kamal Martin 14

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2020 Safeties

Adrian Amos 65, Darnell Savage 65, Will Redmond 14

2021 Safeties

Darnell Savage 55, Adrian Amos 31, Will Redmond 24

The violence, the balance, the strength. Wouldnt be upset if this guy ended up in GB.

Also GB would have the market cornered on massive thighs...

Saquon Barkey and AJ Dillon have a new challenger in the quad game.

Alabama RB Najee Harris pic.twitter.com/XWcTqjzJGZ

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) January 26, 2021

Najee is a north/south power back...not conducive to outside zone

He won't be there for the Packers anyway unless he roughs up his GF and it's caught on film

@Grave Digger posted:

The violence, the balance, the strength. Wouldnt be upset if this guy ended up in GB.

Also GB would have the market cornered on massive thighs...

Saquon Barkey and AJ Dillon have a new challenger in the quad game.

Alabama RB Najee Harris pic.twitter.com/XWcTqjzJGZ

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) January 26, 2021

Love to see us stock up on RBs.

Harris seems to be able to do everything they ask him to do. Great vision, great feet, what else does a zone runner need?

Travis Etienne is a nice back as well. A little more lightning than Harris, and excels in many areas...catching the ball, inside zone, outside zone. Pass pro needs work, fumbles from time to time, but I don’t think either are uncorrectable.

But if he and Zaven Collins are both on the board that is a tough decision.

I do like Ettiene. Really runs hard, lots of wiggle.

@Chongo posted:

But if he and Zaven Collins are both on the board that is a tough decision.

Then Gutekunst will trade down.

@Fedya posted:

Then Gutekunst will trade down.

Hey, F you...Gutey's had that guys picture under his pillow for 14 months! (Whoever it is)

Two CBs that look really good, hard to gauge value in February, but maybe late 1st to mid 2nd rounders unless they tank workouts.

OK St. CB Rodarius Williams

Northwestern CB Greg Newsome

@Grave Digger posted:

Two CBs that look really good, hard to gauge value in February, but maybe late 1st to mid 2nd rounders unless they tank workouts.

OK St. CB Rodarius Williams

Northwestern CB Greg Newsome

Nice, but Greg Newsome sounds too much like Craig Newsome when I say his name out loud.

But he had a very nice season with Northwestern. https://saturdaytradition.com/...money-downs-in-2020/

Newsome dropping picks on long balls certainly fits. ;-)

Ambry Thomas from Michigan intrigues me. I wonder how opting out will affect the draft status of those guys. Thomas struggled some at the Senior Bowl, and likely won't be ready for snaps early, but he might come cheap enough to stash for a while.

Couple guys I really like that are young (20/21 years old):

Missouri LB Nick Bolton:

Reminds me of Kenny Clark in a way. 20 years old, raw immense physical gifts, seems to be playing primarily just on ability and not enough nuance and savvy. But you catch a guy like that on the up swing as a 20 year old kid, by the time he's the same age as his '21 Draft peers he's already a Pro Bowler. Good workouts and this kid is a legit end of R1 player, right now I would say GB either needs to trade back to R2 or trade up in R2 to have a shot.

Clemson Slot Amari Rodgers:

I'm biased because this kid is from Knoxville and his dad is former UTK QB Tee Martin, a guy who is still beloved in the Knoxville area mostly. He's got the goods though IMO, young kid too. Doesn't turn 22 until September. GB needs a factor in the Slot, we have a lot of talented wide receivers IMO, and Adams is certainly an elite Slot receiver, but it would be nice to split DA out wide and still have a threat from the Slot.

Rodgers would be a serious upgrade to Ervin...so we likely won't draft him.

I've seen Toney mocked to GB. 

Just can't see Guten-free drafting a niche WR in RD1.  You'd have to see Smith or Waddle fall to 29 to have any chance. 

Nah, still don't see him going WR there. 

But I could see him move up in RD2 to get a guy.