Here's your AP News mock draft
^^^ would absolutely love Graham Barton in the 1st.
Yep, I have not seen any draft by a national writer that has DeJean going in the 1st round.
The long-term side effects of too much hair gel are finally coming to light.
NFL Draft: Teams should expect to be wrong on “their guy”
In 2017, the Bears dealt the No. 3 pick, two thirds and a fourth to the 49ers to move up one spot in the draft. At No. 2, they chose their guy, Mitch Trubisky. It wasn’t a reach at the time, as scouts ranked Trubisky the No. 1 QB in his class. That same year, the Chiefs sent two first-round picks and a third for the Bills’ No. 10 pick, drafting Patrick Mahomes.
Regardless of how their careers would unfold, trade value charts had the teams who traded back — the 49ers and Bills — winning both deals by receiving upwards of 150 cents on the dollar. Why?
As Alec Lewis explains in an enlightening story on the NFL’s approach to the draft, research has shown that teams should accumulate picks by trading back and into the future more often: “The more darts you have, the better your chance of eventually hitting the bull’s-eye.”
More here...
https://theathletic.com/541942...t-errors-scoop-city/
P.S. Anyone think Gutey is trading up in round1? If he does he thinks someone is a Hall of Fame player.
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The Bills are maybe not the best example to use since Mahomes and the Chiefs have been stopping the Bills from getting to the Super Bowl consistently. That’s some rather good “value”.
There’s a reason most hall of fame players and all pros are first rounders, and that’s because they are usually the best prospects. There’s a severe law of diminishing returns the later a pick is. More picks does mean more chances, of course, but the value of that chance is not equal throughout.
@PackLandVA posted:^^^ would absolutely love Graham Barton in the 1st.
He looks like a good home grown, corn fed, white boy. Wonder if he likes cheese curds. How far up do we have to move to get him?
Cooper VeJean from Heaven 4 visits
#Iowa CB Cooper DeJean, a likely first-rounder who impressed at his Pro Day, only had four days available for Top 30 visits due to Combine rechecks (fractured fibula) and his late Pro Day.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 17, 2024
He spent those days with: The #Steelers, #Seahawks, #Bills and #Eagles.
@Satori posted:
So Watson, Reed, Doubs, Wicks, Melton, Musgrave, Kraft, Heath and others are all available to say hello back to Jordy and the crew. GB also has Grant DuBose as a developmental guy.
No Samori Toure love?
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:No Samori Toure love?
Not sure if he was hurt, but his snap counts went from anemic to invisible over the course of the season. He came into the year with a head start vs the youngsters, but for whatever reason - it didn't translate to more playing time
https://www.pro-football-refer...ourSa00/fantasy/2023
Seems like we're in a loveless relationship right now.
From @dpbrugler Beast:
— Sigmund Bloom (@SigmundBloom) April 17, 2024
"Starting at age 3, hockey was Sinnott’s first love, and he became the star forward on his club team. He started playing tackle football in fourth grade (he didn’t want to play flag football because he couldn’t hit anyone)" https://t.co/3iGKLvZ0Z9
From McGinn's draft series
QUOTE TO NOTE
AFC personnel man: “I look for hips in a corner.
That’s the key for me. I don’t care how fast a guy is. If he has to stop and gather to change direction he’s beaten. That’s why I really like watching corners in practice. I get more out of corners at a practice than any other position.”
@Boris posted:Here's your AP News mock draft
THAT is an excellent mock of Rd 1. And yes please to Barton.
draft is too friggen late, I am losing steam on this thing. end of apr is just too far away for the draft.
I saw a report about Gute maybe moving up for a CB. The guys mentioned that he'd move up for were Terrion Arnold, Kool Aid McKinstry and Quinyon Mitchell. The article said Arnold was the smartest CB, of these three, Kool Aid was a solid player and that Quinyon Mitchell was the article's pick as, basically, the best CB on the board. If Gute moves up to draft one of these guys, what does that mean for Stokes? It is also interesting that this article did not mention Cooper Dejean, at all.
In reviewing all the TE in this class, it's a very underwhelming one in terms of athleticism...and perhaps explains why Gutey double-dipped on the position last year.
I would be stunned if the Packers take a TE this year...too many 6'3" guys with poor agility. Never say never, but there are much better value picks especially in R4-R7. Looking at all the OL tallant, I am thinking Packers could take as many as 4 OL. This is a good year to take a swing at re-stocking the OL Draft & Develop tank.
Erick All coming off an injury. Later rounds DFH. Did not realize Barnett put up that many reps on the bench.
Edge Coop along side Quay could be silly good.
@Iowacheese posted:Erick All coming off an injury. Later rounds DFH.
That dude has got some really huge hands, they're XL meathooks.
Super helpful when holding DL or snatching passes.
Barton, Edge Coop, and Hall from Duh Ohio State would be a great start to the draft.
@Satori posted:That dude has got some really huge hands, they're XL meathooks.
Super helpful when holding DL or snatching passes.
His blocking got a lot better at Iowa vs his Michigan version. You have to block at TEU
@Satori posted:That's really cool that you can do the direct comparisons on mathbomb, thx
Edgerrin gets the edge on speed in the 40 and 10 yd split, so that's encouraging
Agility leans toward Barnett though
RAS can't measure a guys mentality. Barnett was a straight up dawg...he wanted to be the best like Gilbert Brown wanted a hamburger. Dennis Erickson raved about NB's work ethic when he was at Oregon State.
If EC has that mentality...he will be successful. If not, he probably won't.
@Iowacheese posted:Erick All coming off an injury. Later rounds DFH. Did not realize Barnett put up that many reps on the bench.
Edge Coop along side Quay could be silly good.
Unfortunately we haven't been able to see his RAS score because he hasn't tested yet...but he passes the eyeball test. Had decent production at a school known for producing quality NFL TE...the question is, how does he compare to LaPorta?
Bad year for TE in the draft so that will help his cause. Last year we had 14 TE with a RAS over 9.00
2024, there are 4.
If they got DeJean first, then Kingsley and Kneeland.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 18, 2024
If Guyton first,
Cooper and Bullard https://t.co/PlNEo2LPmc
@Chongo posted:RAS can't measure a guys mentality. Barnett was a straight up dawg...he wanted to be the best like Gilbert Brown wanted a hamburger. Dennis Erickson raved about NB's work ethic when he was at Oregon State.
If EC has that mentality...he will be successful. If not, he probably won't.
One thing that kind of impressed me about Cooper is that he didn’t play any games with the “green dot” question. Most guys say they want it and can do it because it’s considered a positive and can help their draft stock, whether they’d be worth a shit doing it or not. Cooper reportedly said he’d prefer not to as he’s better suited to just making plays than coordinating everyone else.
@Chongo posted:If they got DeJean first, then Kingsley and Kneeland.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 18, 2024
If Guyton first,
Cooper and Bullard https://t.co/PlNEo2LPmc
Suamataia and Cooper, regardless of whomever in the first.
I’d be extremely happy with Barton, Suamataia, Cooper, Bishop/Taylor-Demerson, and Green in the first three rounds.
Another write-up on Jaylon Wright, this time via PackersWire. Includes some cut ups and coaches fluffery