Because you know more than he does.
EDIT: He was also right. Darrius Shephard and Malik Taylor sucked last year.
Wanting to recruit players to GB doesn't sound like a guy wanting to burn the org to the ground. In the scope of thing, Kum staying or going didn't amount to much, but making your QB look stupid probably could have been something the org could have done a little different.
Complaining about how some of the outgoing vets were treated? They got too expensive. You think Woody, TJ or Mathews would take a pay cut? Now if AR offered to take a cut to keep some of these core guys and the FO office ignored him I could see his beef
@BrainDed posted:Exactly what I said. It's like we're twinsies. JINX!
Cobb is going to take the roster for the last WR spot. We all like to debate who that spot should go to every year around this time because it's fun. Reality is that most the time it doesn't matter. Well, except for when it makes your HOF QB happy, then it matters a little more.
Well, you are doing it wrong. If he wants to have sex with your wife knock the bitch out and offer yourself instead. No body has sex with Aaron Rodgers but you.
Goldie, this is just in jest. Please don't knock anyone out.
@Steve of Norway posted:Whatever you need to get through your angry day..be pissed off at the FO, be pissed off at MLF..of course, Rodgers is immune from criticism..just get the season started already..
You switched over to your smurf account just show your red hot flaming butt hurt?
When did I say a single thing about Mayo? Or do you need to be wrong on a daily basis to affirm your victim complex "Steve".
@Packiderm posted:Complaining about how some of the outgoing vets were treated? They got too expensive. You think Woody, TJ or Mathews would take a pay cut? Now if AR offered to take a cut to keep some of these core guys and the FO office ignored him I could see his beef
Apparently that's exactly what he offered this season until they came back with the "Sure, sounds great! We're still getting rid of you after 2021" offer. They're getting cap space now that he's back.
I also seem to remember Mathews being open to a lower contract just like Jordy but they didn't offer or low balled to the point of being insulting.
Because we all know how Russ "Low" Ball likes to barter! Right Rizzi!
@NumberThree posted:My man @TomPelissero with the question to @AaronRodgers12 that gave us the answer we were all waiting for: 4 pages. Read them all. pic.twitter.com/2tpurKDJ1e
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Oh BTW, I fucking nailed it.
Right Smurf? Go hit up the Peanut Gallery and they can point you to my post stating exactly what Rodgers said.
All about the contract.
You know, I really wasn't going to go this route but with the Smurf (Right fellas? Yeah, you know.) I figured I'd fire up that butt hurt to white hot.
An underappreciated genius of your generation clearly. That is evident daily.
White. Hot.
the thing that gripes me is that according to the Presser, Rodgers started this dialoge with the front office in February. The FO totally ignored him and went about their business the way they have the last 30 years. In May after Free Agency and the draft they decided to "throw some money" at him (his words) to hopefully appease him. Meanwhile the FO keeps saying how much they are tryting to work out an agreement with him only it took until just before training camp to reach a resolution. Things along the way got leaked and if Rodgers is right, it came from management. I am totally in Rodgers corner on this deal. Gutekunst is right. Rodgers has earned the right to be heard. It should not have taken until a few days before training camp to realize that.
@Henry posted:White. Hot.
Crushing it, as usual.
I may have missed it, but is there any official word on the terms of the Cobb deal and 12âs new contract?
@Pistol GB posted:Because you know more than he does.
EDIT: He was also right. Darrius Shephard and Malik Taylor sucked last year.
No, because the organization knows more about personnel than he does. Jake Kumerow is and has always been a marginal player.
@Grave Digger posted:Crushing it, as usual.
Maybe it's me being a naÃŊve pussy, but I too was very impressed by AR;s transparency during the press conference. Was there some aloofness and privilege mixed in his message? Of course, but it is difficult for me to not overlook some of that when you see what the guy has accomplished in his time here. Way too many excellent responses to focus on just one, but I sense a guy who, as mentioned above, has a genuine desire in being a Packer for life and feel he needs more interaction on some personnel decisions to make that happen. The contract is also part of the equation (not wanting to be a "lame duck" QB after this year), but it is not by far the only factor. The honesty and emotion that Rodgers showed in that PC was refreshing and not one I have seen from a professional athlete in awhile.
It was telling that AR said that after the team got a hint of a thought that he might want to leave they threw a bunch of $ at him without any other concessions. Douchey move if you ask me. Unfortunately I came out of listening to the entire PC thinking this will be Rodgers last year in GB and we'll have to be put through the ringer watching him excel for some other team moving forward. History will tell who's favor that works out for. Time to focus on playing football and letting the other shit work itself out and deal with it when you have to deal with it.
Also thought it telling that Adams says him staying in GB will not be connected to where AR plays beyond this year. Has to be highest paid WR and that's it. That's a whole other thread.
Again, I could just be a naÃŊve pussy.
@michiganjoe posted:No, because the organization knows more about personnel than he does. Jake Kumerow is and has always been a marginal player.
You mean the guys that don't play on the field with Rodgers, who is himself a player, know more about the players on the field?
Shephard and Taylor are just friggin' leap years ahead. Trust me, I wasn't on the Kumerow choo choo either because they are ALL scrubs.
With that said, it's quite possible that Rodgers liked Kumerow because those two played well together. So Kumerow's 200 yards in Buffalo may have been more like 400-500 yards in Green Bay if Rodgers trusted him to be in the right place at the right time. That would be pretty damn good for a scrub.
I feel safe making that assumption because the other two "top notch" potential guys were hot garbage. One of the them factoring into that shit show of a ST unit.
In the end, does it really frickin' matter who stays out of the scrub pile created out of a shotgun draft in the lower to middle rounds? It's impressive for those guys that know more about the players to draft such physical specimens that can't even catch a fucking football.
Malik Taylor played 210 special teams snaps last year. His receiving skills were secondary.
@michiganjoe posted:Malik Taylor played 210 special teams snaps last year. His receiving skills were secondary.
All of them horrible.
Always thought Kumerow was pretty solid on ST's too. Not as a returner but Taylor didn't help in that area either.
@Henry posted:
If that makes you feel better, go for it. You nailed it.
@El-Ka-Bong posted:Wanting to recruit players to GB doesn't sound like a guy wanting to burn the org to the ground. In the scope of thing, Kum staying or going didn't amount to much, but making your QB look stupid probably could have been something the org could have done a little different.
What Ive been saying all offseason.
@PackerHawk posted:Always thought Kumerow was pretty solid on ST's too. Not as a returner but Taylor didn't help in that area either.
Also, don't underestimate the value of having our Lord and Savior in the locker room...
@Chongo posted:Also, don't underestimate the value of having our Lord and Savior in the locker room...
Never hurts to have Jeebus on your side.
Looks like the trade for Cobb was a 6th rounder, plus Houston picks up $3 mil of the salary.
The #Packers are trading a 2022 sixth-round pick to the #Texans for WR Randall Cobb, source said. Houston is also expected to pay $3 million of Cobbâs salary to facilitate the deal. Aaron Rodgers gets his man.
â Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 28, 2021
After days of expectation, Randall Cobb is indeed on his way back to Green Bay.
The Packers are sending a 2022 sixth-round draft pick to the Houston Texans to bring back Cobb, reuniting him with Aaron Rodgers and the team in which he starred for eight seasons, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Wednesday afternoon.
Houston is also expected to pay $3 million of Cobb's salary to facilitate the deal, Pelissero added.
It was a move that's been brewing and now is all but official.
Wow Owner/Player Aaron Rodgers dominated Houston. I will take that deal all day.
This is the kind of deal we have been begging for. Make a trade for a Vet at a position of need with your ample late round picks. Imagine if we would have done this with S or ILB over the past 5 to 10 years.
Were would we be without those 6th round picks?
- Simon Stepaniak
- Dexter Williams
- Ka'dar Hollman
- EQS
- Kofi Amichia
- Trevor Davis
- Aaron Ripkowski
- Christian Ringo
- Kennard Backman
- Demetri Goodson
- Charles Johnson
- DJ Smith
- Ricky Elmore
so the pack give up next year's 6th, and pay Cobb ~ $5mil this year? Not too bad, I guess.
Stay healthy, "young" man.
I can stomach the deal a little better at $5 million. Was hoping for a 50/50 split on his salary but this isn't bad.
@YATittle posted:After days of expectation, Randall Cobb is indeed on his way back to Green Bay.
The Packers are sending a 2022 sixth-round draft pick to the Houston Texans to bring back Cobb, reuniting him with Aaron Rodgers and the team in which he starred for eight seasons, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Wednesday afternoon.
Houston is also expected to pay $3 million of Cobb's salary to facilitate the deal, Pelissero added.
It was a move that's been brewing and now is all but official.
Wow, that's a pretty insane deal.
@PackerHawk posted:Never hurts to have Jeebus on your side.
@PackerHawk posted:I can stomach the deal a little better at $5 million. Was hoping for a 50/50 split on his salary but this isn't bad.
The debate was probably between cash vs. draft pick. Houston probably would have eaten more if we given a better pick. Happy medium.
A 6th round pick is nothing...if you're lucky you get a solid ST player there.
@PackerHawk posted:I can stomach the deal a little better at $5 million. Was hoping for a 50/50 split on his salary but this isn't bad.
It's exactly what the Cowboys paid him in 2019 that the Packers wouldn't pay him (assuming he'd have come back to Green Bay had they matched the salary). At the time, I didn't think 5 million was out of line for a 27-year-old WR.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:It's exactly what the Cowboys paid him in 2019 that the Packers wouldn't pay him (assuming he'd have come back to Green Bay had they matched the salary). At the time, I didn't think 5 million was out of line for a 27-year-old WR.
I don't think anyone here thought that either. I remember wishing they would have kept Cobb even though his production and availability waned toward the end, I felt like he had more to offer.
@michiganjoe posted:No, because the organization knows more about personnel than he does. Jake Kumerow is and has always been a marginal player.
He was better than Malik useless Taylor (who sucked in all areas and was quite possibly the worst returner in our franchiseâs history) and Darius fall-down Shepherd.
And yes, the first-ballot HOF QB who huddled up and played first hand with all 3 of them predicted it and knew more than the dude in the suit on the freaking sidelines.
And that doesnât even account for the fact that he publicly stuck his neck out for the guy, only to be face-slapped without a word when they cut him 2 days later. It was petty, bush-league behavior by the GM who didnât want any player telling him how to do his job.
And it obviously stuck in the quarterbackâs craw and widened the rift between him and the FO and contributed to him almost not reporting to camp this year.
So âthe organization knows more about personnelâ? I reckon not this time. They saddled the offense (and special teams) with 2 worse players last year and almost fucked up this whole season in the process.
Guessing they thought Amari probably wouldnât be jumping in right away so this gives him some time to learn the system and gives Arod someone he knows and trusts as far as route running, etc. And, throws Arod a bone. But, who knows how many games Cobb will be healthy for. Hopefully all.
Still not sure where Funchess fits or if he does. He really hasnât played much since 2018.
Now that they likely have a better grasp of what their cap situation will be with Rodgers contract altered, I figured we would see some veteran signings like this. Probably wanted to see how the draft played out before making any moves. There are always solid veterans available from the draft through mid-season. Kelly didn't give up a sack in 2020. Figured the dominos would fall with Adams and Jaire first, but this is a solid signing. I would expect more.
The #Packers are expected to sign veteran OT Dennis Kelly, pending physical, per his agent @Casey_Muir1. Kelly started every game last season for Tennessee. A busy day in Green Bay.
â Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 28, 2021