Preach on Pistol! Preach on!
So how much of a "cut" was Rodgers willing to give? Was he willing to do it when all of his "core guys" getting the ax?
@Packy posted:Guessing they thought Amari probably wouldn’t be jumping in right away so this gives him some time to learn the system and gives Arod someone he knows and trusts as far as route running, etc. And, throws Arod a bone. But, who knows how many games Cobb will be healthy for. Hopefully all.
Cobb as the 4th or 5th option at WR should make it through the season. When you are counting on him as a #2ish guy you are setting yourself up for a big disappointment.
@CoPackFan posted:Looks like the trade for Cobb was a 6th rounder, plus Houston picks up $3 mil of the salary.
The #Packers are trading a 2022 sixth-round pick to the #Texans for WR Randall Cobb, source said. Houston is also expected to pay $3 million of Cobb’s salary to facilitate the deal. Aaron Rodgers gets his man.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) July 28, 2021
Thanks for the info. I’m good with that.
@Chongo posted:Well he LOOKS like Bakhtiari...
A thirsty Bahk. Someone get that man a beer.
@BrainDed posted:This is the kind of deal we have been begging for. Make a trade for a Vet at a position of need with your ample late round picks. Imagine if we would have done this with S or ILB over the past 5 to 10 years.
Were would we be without those 6th round picks?
- Simon Stepaniak
- Dexter Williams
- Ka'dar Hollman
- EQS
- Kofi Amichia
- Trevor Davis
- Aaron Ripkowski
- Christian Ringo
- Kennard Backman
- Demetri Goodson
- Charles Johnson
- DJ Smith
- Ricky Elmore
Sure. Every NFL team will part with nearly starting caliber players for a 6th rounder. If Gutey traded that type of player and cash for a 6th rounder you would be calling for him to be fired. Too many guys play fantasy football with no salary cap, Gutey plays real football.
@Packiderm posted:Complaining about how some of the outgoing vets were treated? They got too expensive. You think Woody, TJ or Mathews would take a pay cut? Now if AR offered to take a cut to keep some of these core guys and the FO office ignored him I could see his beef
If you’re to believe what Rodgers said today in his PC, then yes he specifically stated Woodson, Jordy (and maybe others-can’t remember) would have taken pay cuts to remain in GB. Go back to tape. He said it.
Woodson and Jordy: I’ll give up 2 bucks of my salary if you bring me back.
Didn't both Woody and Jordy complain about how they were let go? I think players understand it could happen at anytime, but if it was "don't let the door hit ya", then that might have a toll on team morale.
I think we can say with certainty that it does impact morale as our HOF QB just told us it upset him.
Arod need a history lesson. Even Lambeau was told not to let the door hit you in the arse when he was told his services were no longer needed.
And please always remember Lombardi traded Billy Howton, a very popular at the time WR, traded All Pro Jim Ringo, cut QB Babe Parilli, and cut future HAll of Famer Timmy Brown after 1 game. GMs make tough and sometimes rong decisions all the time.
There are planes, trains and buses leaving Green Bay every day. Make sure you are not on one of them. VL
Cole Beasley should be in the condom and the condom should definitely be thrown away.
@Pistol GB posted:So “the organization knows more about personnel”?
That's my opinion, yes. They're all marginal players that far down the roster and the differences aren't significant. I guess I'm not a fan of players micromanaging personnel decisions.
Judging by his extensive laundry list of those players wronged by the franchise perhaps he should have taken over for Ted Thompson years ago.
@Pistol GB posted:He was better than Malik useless Taylor (who sucked in all areas and was quite possibly the worst returner in our franchise’s history) and Darius fall-down Shepherd.
He returned a grand total of nine kickoffs last year (and admittedly wasn't good at it). Think age and a lack of upside were really the factors in the team going away from WWJ.
Regardless, AR appears to have been willing to tolerate all the mistreatment and mistakes from the FO until Gutey committed the ultimate sin of drafting his replacement. That's really the only personnel move that matters in this whole discussion.
I’ve listened to the AR presser a few times now and I have to admit he comes across as pretty genuine and contrite which is a nice change from his usual meandering conversations and statements.
Now they can turn the page and focus on getting that next elusive championship in 2021. Beyond that? I’m guessing he’s moving on.
@Tavis Smiley posted:If you’re to believe what Rodgers said today in his PC, then yes he specifically stated Woodson, Jordy (and maybe others-can’t remember) would have taken pay cuts to remain in GB. Go back to tape. He said it.
He also made a point that the way players were let go didn't sit well with him. He clearly didn't think all these guys needed to be re-signed but deserved a little more respect in the way they were let go. I'm betting some of them found out by a phone call or text message or through their agent instead of meeting in person with the GM or team rep.
@PackerHawk posted:He also made a point that the way players were let go didn't sit well with him. He clearly didn't think all these guys needed to be re-signed but deserved a little more respect in the way they were let go. I'm betting some of them found out by a phone call or text message or through their agent instead of meeting in person with the GM or team rep.
I’m sure there are plenty of ex Packers who could confirm either way. Never heard much from them..
Might work. Isn't a 71 a 69 with 2 fingers up your ass?
New OT sounds great.
@Chongo posted:Ask Goalline
He was asking me. Unlike that fucking MAGA Henry, PH has never gone back on black.
https://twitter.com/tomoatesws...795544092520453?s=21
Thanasis Cobb?😂
@YATittle posted:New OT sounds great.
He's a finger in the dike until Buck Cherry comes back
Finger in the dike? I am always suspicious of the actual meaning of that term.
@ammo posted:They used dike, not dyke.
Ammo??? You can’t use that word. Shame on you, brother.
@michiganjoe posted:That's my opinion, yes. They're all marginal players that far down the roster and the differences aren't significant. I guess I'm not a fan of players micromanaging personnel decisions.
Judging by his extensive laundry list of those players wronged by the franchise perhaps he should have taken over for Ted Thompson years ago.
He didn't say anything about "micro-managing" in his presser. All he was saying was get some input from the guy throwing the ball, like lots of organizations do. It makes sense.
"Maybe run it by me before you cut the receiver having the second best camp, maybe I can change your mind." (If not, fine.) That's not trying to be GM, that's just checking all your sources before you decide. It's just smart.
He also said it wasn't about necessarily keeping the aging vets, just showing a little more ceremony and respect to guys like Woodson and Jordy on their way out the door, rather than just yellow slipping them. Listen close to the presser, the "laundry list" were not players he was saying they should have necessarily kept.
@michiganjoe posted:1) He returned a grand total of nine kickoffs last year (and admittedly wasn't good at it). Think age and a lack of upside were really the factors in the team going away from WWJ.
2) Regardless, AR appears to have been willing to tolerate all the mistreatment and mistakes from the FO until Gutey committed the ultimate sin of drafting his replacement. That's really the only personnel move that matters in this whole discussion.
1) "Upside" is exactly what the practice squad is for, if the players even have it, which Taylor and Shepherd did not. Which Rodgers knew at the time and ended up being right about.
2) False.
