This may be the most elaborate troll job of the media ever by pro players.
Henry was right, Rodgers was able to get his minions to follow his lead.
@Chongo posted:Not that I'm trying to trigger Hank...
GM Brian Gutekunst to the Packers’ shareholders: “We have been working tirelessly with Aaron and his representatives to resolve the issues [Rodgers has raised], and we are hopeful for a positive resolution.” pic.twitter.com/ckpIrw5dta
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) July 26, 2021
Brian Gutekunst making concessions to Aaron Rodgers pic.twitter.com/aW2Cm8OTNF
— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) July 26, 2021
FFS...who the fuck asks a GM for an autograph?
Mark Murphy would not discuss any details on status of Aaron Rodgers but did say several times VP Finance Russ Ball has been in constant contact with Rodgers agent David Dunn, so perhaps a 1 year deal is in works. GM Brian Gutekunst, also involved, signed fan autographs today. pic.twitter.com/85Z4ZCNy25
— Mike Clemens (@MikeClemensNFL) July 26, 2021
@Chongo posted:Dilfer, while not a HoFer by any stretch, was a lot better than people give him credit for. Tony Banks was QB1 for a long stretch with that squad, and couldn't do jack shit. In the pantheon of "winning Super Bowl QB," Dilfer is ahead of guys like Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Flacco, Brad Johnson and Doug Williams.
He was probably the last "game manager" to win a Super Bowl, and that was 20 years ago. The game has changed a lot.
One thing I did not mention is that Dilfer, up to the point he left, had the most team wins as a starting QB in TB than any other QB. TB did not always put good TEAMS on the field in those days.
Tony Banks played 3 seasons with the StL Rams before playing 2 seasons with Baltimore. When he was with the Rams, a neighbor whose house bordered my backyard, who had a friend that lived next to Tony Banks house reported that there were parties at the Banks residence almost nightly. It is a good bet that getting into the play book was fairly low on his list of priorities - and it showed on the field. Banks would go on to Washington but did not amount to much. The neighbor and myself had a good laugh over that.
Three former TB QBs would go on to win SBs with other teams; Trent Dilfer (with Baltimore), Doug Williams (with Washington), and Steve Young (with SF). They had good QBs but they needed more to go with them - a lot more in some cases.
Adams now open to continuing contract talks with GBP. What changed?
@EC Pack posted:Maybe I should have added the little sarcasm picture. I know Dilfer won one but so did the immortal Brad Johnson.
Yes, with TB in 2002. I didn't think of it originally, but maybe we should have said he was the best TB QB. While his season was 10-6, winning a SB elevates the ratings just a little. You agree?
@artis posted:Adams now open to continuing contract talks with GBP. What changed?
Maybe a deal with AR to keep him in GB for multiple years? I get the idea that Adams and AR are inseparable as far as those 2 are concerned. We will see ..........
there was no outbreak, there was a series of players who tested positive.
Those are two different things. An outbreak refers to a bunch of people getting sick
Did you just make that up? Because..... It sounds like you just made that up. So I checked the CDC website for a definition and they say you just made that up. Follow the SCIENCE!!
"Occasionally, the amount of disease in a community rises above the expected level. Epidemic refers to an increase, often sudden, in the number of cases of a disease above what is normally expected in that population in that area. Outbreak carries the same definition of epidemic, but is often used for a more limited geographic area. "
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsep...sson1/section11.html
@BrainDed posted:there was no outbreak, there was a series of players who tested positive.
Those are two different things. An outbreak refers to a bunch of people getting sickDid you just make that up? Because..... It sounds like you just made that up. So I checked the CDC website for a definition and they say you just made that up. Follow the SCIENCE!!
"Occasionally, the amount of disease in a community rises above the expected level. Epidemic refers to an increase, often sudden, in the number of cases of a disease above what is normally expected in that population in that area. Outbreak carries the same definition of epidemic, but is often used for a more limited geographic area. "
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsep...sson1/section11.html
Just a warning. Delete this before Satori reads it.
Schefter: Rodgers is 𝗚𝗢𝗡𝗘.
— Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) July 26, 2021
Aaron Rodgers: pic.twitter.com/srjApGC8Wv
From the Rodgers camp...
The reworked deal for Aaron Rodgers includes him having a say in his future in 2022 and 2023. https://t.co/EkQi7dZTXE
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 26, 2021
Well, this has been one of the more entertaining offseasons for Packers fan in a long time.
Bucks win the title. Brewers in 1st, comfortably. Media shitting the bed because Rodgers wants some commitment.
While we watch the Brewers in the last month or so of the regular season, we are back with the odds on favorite to win the NFCN and SB contending Packers team.
Life is good.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The #Packers and QB Aaron Rodgers are in the final stages of a reworked deal to bring him back for the 2021 season, source said. It should be official soon. Rodgers had planned to arrive for camp thanks to a thawing over the past few days. Now, he will.
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I'm all for both sides coming up with a solution, but there was no way 12 was going to retire or not show up to training camp.
I know he’s mister super bad ass best of all time QB guy, but you don’t sign a contract making you the highest paid QB in the league and then hold out with three years left in that contract, MVP or not. That’s a PR war you’re not going to win.
The only thawing out was 12’s grasp of reality regarding the situation. He may have wanted out and demanded a trade, but the FO (as incompetent as they are) were smart to call his bluff.
Having said that, I’m glad he’s back, but FFS, a big fat NO on bringing Cobb back.
I’m ok with Cobb’s return if that’s in the cards. Fuck it.
@Pakrz posted:Nope. Let it ride for shits and giggles.
Okay, but his blood is on your hands now.
Trading for Cobb is odd, and interesting.
They just drafted Cobb - Amari is very similar, but stronger - Amari's dad coached Cobb so AR2 is familiar with RCs style of play. Will Cobb be #3, #4, or #5 WR? What if Cobb doesn't make the cut? Cobb's not as good of a blocker as Lazard, can't stretch the field like MVS, and will likely be 3rd or 4th best slot option. Where does he fit, PR/KR?
Interesting insight into NFL $ ....teams get 300 million dollars of league distributed money each year on top of anything other income. Even with no fans last season the Packers made 120 million on just investments....Brandt comes on later in video and says Packers have billions of dollars in what they used to call "preservation fund".
The thing I'd be concerned about with Cobb coming in is would it provide an urge for AR12 to extend plays waiting for Cobb to find the open spot in the D?
Which Cobb dies extremely well.
I hope LaFleur is in these discussions and would sign off on a move like this. Rodgers may stir the drink, but MLF mixes in the right proportions.
Randall Cobb is fine for like 3 or 4 games a year at this point in his career. But like many ex-Packers, he had a hard time staying healthy as he got older which is why he’s been an ex-Packer the past couple years. Paying a guy for 17 games when he’s probably only useful for 1/4 of a season isn’t too wise to me. That said, maybe it will be part of the makeup between the front office and Rodgers.
I read that Cobb’s current contract makes a trade very hard to do.
I really like the FO making the FO decisions, just me.
@fightphoe93 posted:Randall Cobb is fine for like 3 or 4 games a year at this point in his career. But like many ex-Packers, he had a hard time staying healthy as he got older which is why he’s been an ex-Packer the past couple years. Paying a guy for 17 games when he’s probably only useful for 1/4 of a season isn’t too wise to me. That said, maybe it will be part of the makeup between the front office and Rodgers.
Randall Cobb is the equivalent of a guy like the current (old) versions of PJ Tucker or Andre Iguodala in the NBA. They aren't worth big money if you have to optimize winning regular-season games because they just can't hold up over the course of a whole year playing big minutes. But when you get to the post-season, you want them around for their experience. But the NFL just doesn't lend itself to spending money on that type of guy. It's even difficult to justify them for a vet minimum because you are basically giving up a guy that can contribute on special teams.
The problem is that in the NFL, every game counts a lot more because there are 5 times more games in the NBA and home-field/court advantage is a lot more meaningful in the playoffs. If you pay a guy like Cobb and he misses 6 games and you end up 9-7 instead of 11-5 you end up playing a road game on wild card weekend. If PJ Tucker sits out half the regular-season games and the Bucks end up going 50-32 instead of 56-26 (if they spent the same money on more guys like Bryn Forbes) they may be a 4 seed instead of the 1 seed.
In the NFL in a close game, the crowd makes a huge difference in terms of having to do silent snap counts and being able to make changes at the line. In the NBA, the crowd makes some difference but it's not like it's going to change your ability to run an offense. 20,000 people screaming in an arena aren't going to give your defensive players the same advantage they get in the NFL rushing the passer (silent snap counts) or change your ability to call plays. It's still run a Middleton-Giannis pick and roll if you are the Bucks or give the ball to Durant if you are the Nets.
Another comment on Rodgers (and other older QBs like Brady and Roethlisberger).
There was a huge advantage in having a very experienced QB last year in road games relative to previous years. A guy like Rodgers or Brady has seen everything. According to footballreference.com, the average starting QB takes about 1,000-1,200 snaps a year. Rodgers has 13 years as a starter and Brady has 19. When you come up to the LOS in an empty stadium during COVID, you can change the play at the line by yelling out the audible and everyone could hear it. That's going to be different with stadiums full again. Your great experienced QBs are still going to be difference makers, but their value in road games is going to be a little bit less than it was last year.
@PackerPatrick posted:I read that Cobb’s current contract makes a trade very hard to do.
Cobb is due over $8m this year. Hard to believe the Packers will (or can) pick that up.
@bvan posted:I'm waiting for PackerHawk's meeting report.
Anyone else from X4 there?
Was a pretty typical meeting but I've only been to a few. Fans were 99.9% supportive. A few people making wise ass comments but they were drowned out by everyone else. Probably the biggest crowd I've seen at one so far.
They only spent about 2 minutes addressing the situation with Rodgers and got a huge round of applause when they said they were working on things and there was optimism.
I left when the bean counters started talking. Checked my phone and saw the notification from Ian Rappaport. Thought it was interesting timing. Moved on with my day.
You meet people and they become family right away! @rcobb18 go back home and set it off 🏹
— Brandin Cooks (@brandincooks) July 27, 2021
Damn. I hope they got the Texans to eat some of that 2021 contract. Lower round pick for Cobb and 1/2 his contract?
^^excellent point by Kruse. And really, if there is a former Packer WR that would completely excel in this LaFleur offense, it’s Cobb. Do anyone of us really give a fuck if he’s mainly throwing the ball to Adams, Cobb, MVS and occasionally Aaron Jones if it means they keep steamrolling defenses on the way to a SB??
No one will care if this offense keeps rolling and oh AR is happy with his guys at the same time.
Honestly surprised by this, but can’t hate on having Cobb back in the fold (price will obviously play into this).