No, they don't HAVE to clear anything with him...but they could have told him. Not like this is Tim Boyle here...this is the league MVP. He's earned a little more respect than anyone else on the team.
Retire (or not play) or play for the Packers.
His NFL options next year.
@vitaflo posted:Exactly what cards does Rodgers hold right now? The Packers already drafted his replacement and Rodgers is still under contract for 4 more years. The only leverage Rodgers has is public opinion which he's slowly pissing away if any of these reports of wanting out of GB even after an extension was offered to him are true.
What's Rodgers doing to do? Decide not to play? Ok, we'll just play Love then. Rodgers really can't hold the Packers hostage at all.
Yeah, a team leader completely disaffected in the locker room would do nothing.
@michiganjoe posted:Sources: The Packers reportedly told Aaron Rodgers they were going to trade him in the off season, then backed off. It’s been a bleep show between them ever since. And within the last week Rodgers told the team.. trade or no trade I’m not coming back. Buckle up folks
— trey wingo (@wingoz) April 29, 2021Should have just said it- a shitshow.
Who in their right mind agreed to trade him? Trade the reigning MVP in order to have a 35 million dead cap hit? If that was your approach, why extend Aaron Jones?
This leak to Trey Wingo is the Rodgers' camps response to the Packers leaking all the "we sent everyone out to California to talk to him but he wouldn't listen."
You are right, just a shitshow.
I don't buy they told him they were trading him...they are not eating his dead cap number. Wingo is a dipshit.
@michiganjoe posted:Sources: The Packers reportedly told Aaron Rodgers they were going to trade him in the off season, then backed off. It’s been a bleep show between them ever since. And within the last week Rodgers told the team.. trade or no trade I’m not coming back. Buckle up folks
— trey wingo (@wingoz) April 29, 2021Should have just said it- a shitshow.
If this is true, Murphy, Gunt and Mayo need to hit the fucking bricks asap. I cannot think of a more idiotic thing to do. It's so fucking stupid it borders on implausible.
All of these leaks/sources/stories are intentional and done for positioning reasons by both sides. Never believe the entire story from either side.
That said, that is a LOT of smoke and definitely seems that things are at minimum contentious and very possibly irretrievably broken.
Also, if you knew trading him was a possibility why would you let a guy who'd been in your system for a few years and knows the offense leave for 2.5 million dollars a year? Wouldn't it have made sense to keep Boyle around?
@Timpranillo posted:All of these leaks/sources/stories are intentional and done for positioning reasons by both sides. Never believe the entire story from either side.
That said, that is a LOT of smoke and definitely seems that things are at minimum contentious and very possibly irretrievably broken.
Somewhere in the middle lies the truth...
No kidding.... Even if you go with Love you'd still need a backup.
Add up all these bits of info and it all equals the same thing, bunch of BS...
It’s a mess on several levels. 1.) Giving him an extension now looks like your caving to his whining and that Aaron, not the front office is in charge. It also means that if they did do this, that they should have done it months ago when you could have drastically lowered his cap number and could have been decent players in free agency, which the Packers weren’t.
2.) it sends a clear message that Jordan Love has no future here and the pick last year was a huge mistake. So, that means your going to need to trade him and get what you can for him if Rodgers agrees to an extension.
Teams will of course know this and the Packers will get no where near 1st round value.
3.) If the Packers insist on keeping Aaron and he refuses an extension, then this will be a complete shit show from now through training camp where , no, it wouldn’t shock me if he holds out and demands a trade.
If this is going to end in an ugly Bert-like divorce, cut ties with him tonight and get a mass haul. Fuck, go trade him to Jacksonville for the number 1 pick and get Trevor Lawrence.
This whole triangle of stupidity set up by Murphy is coming to roost. And it’s blowing up in his face.
We’ve talked before about how screwed up and dysfunctional the power structure is with Ball, Gute, and MLF all having partial but not full authority to make the final call. Murphy ain’t that guy either.
Seems to me that could be a contributing factor in this shit show.
@Grave Digger posted:So 100% he’s 1) staying in GB long term and 2) Love is traded. This is Rodgers turning up the media pressure to get what he wants. Sometimes he makes it hard to like him.
SOMETIMES?!!! Didn't care for Favre and don't care for this MOFO either. Good football players, yes. As people? Very average.
Imagine sitting behind a HoF QB and having to watch him throw a massive media tantrum that was apparently sparked by your presence...
— My name's Matt but you can call me Matub (@CallMeMatub) April 29, 2021
And then doing the exact same thing to Jordan Love.
I believe that Rodgers was miffed. I believe that the team tried to smooth ruffled feathers and tried to extend him. Until I hear more from reputable sources or a press conference I am going to doubt that he plans to sit out the whole season. ESPN (and PFT quoting them) is the only source reporting this today.
It’s odd that this is just coming out on draft day when viewership is supposed to be down this year.
EDIT: Then this gets added. https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...t-49ers-trade-offer/
and NFL Network is now reporting the rumors.
@packerboi posted:.
Hey @packerboi get rid of all that closed shit. You're causing wear & tear on my scroll wheel !
Murphy, Gutey and LeFleur have all flown to California to reassure Rodgers they’re committed to him. Pretty piss-poor timing for all this to come out!
It’s so crazy how one person can tweet something that they heard from somebody who said that they heard somebody say something and it can blow up this quick 😂
— Adrian Amos (@_SmashAmos31) April 29, 2021
@RoyalWulff posted:Murphy, Gutey and LeFleur have all flown to California to reassure Rodgers they’re committed to him. Pretty piss-poor timing for all this to come out!
Did they take his locker?
@bvan posted:Hey @packerboi get rid of all that closed shit. You're causing wear & tear on my scroll wheel !
Scroll wheel? That's a terrible euphemism.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Who in their right mind agreed to trade him? Trade the reigning MVP in order to have a 35 million dead cap hit? If that was your approach, why extend Aaron Jones?
This leak to Trey Wingo is the Rodgers' camps response to the Packers leaking all the "we sent everyone out to California to talk to him but he wouldn't listen."
You are right, just a shitshow.
I wondered about this earlier and have been assured from a #Packers source that they never told Rodgers they would trade him. It doesn't make sense. If that were the case, every team in the NFL would know about it. They wouldn't give him that kind of leverage., https://t.co/Lh5GwyBP9f
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) April 29, 2021
AR's camp peddling bullshit.
Now being reported AR wanted the Packers to take SF's offer and trade him there.
Just getting sillier by the minute.
LMFAO 😆😆😆
From unimpeachable source: As of last night, Aaron Rodgers’ wish list was 49ers, Broncos, Raiders (not necessarily in that order). He wanted Packers to take the 49ers’ offer. Next move by Rodgers is TBD.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 29, 2021
There was NO OFFER from the Niners.
Why do I get the feeling this is the Packers FO plus Rodgers having fun with every NFL fan just hours before the draft to get the hype machine rolling?😁🤣
@Goalline posted:SOMETIMES?!!! Didn't care for Favre and don't care for this MOFO either. Good football players, yes. As people? Very average.
Imagine sitting behind a HoF QB and having to watch him throw a massive media tantrum that was apparently sparked by your presence...
— My name's Matt but you can call me Matub (@CallMeMatub) April 29, 2021
And then doing the exact same thing to Jordan Love.
How do we know he's behind this?
It depends what the Niners offer would be. If it’s Jimmy G, the 3rd overall pick, additional draft picks, and several good players of course the Packers would be idiots to not even listen - allegedly.
For what the Niners gave up to get to #3 to take Mac Jones, now that would be next level stupid and their fan base would revolt. Parlay that move into Rodgers? Holy shit.
@Boris posted:There was NO OFFER from the Niners.
Why do I get the feeling this is the Packers FO plus Rodgers having fun with every NFL fan just hours before the draft to get the hype machine rolling?😁🤣
Given Rodgers LOOOVE of the media, certainly sounds like something he would do to get a laugh at how boneheaded they are.
@Tschmack posted:We’ve talked before about how screwed up and dysfunctional the power structure is with Ball, Gute, and MLF all having partial but not full authority to make the final call. Murphy ain’t that guy either.
Seems to me that could be a contributing factor in this shit show.
Remember, Gute, Ball, and Murphy were all in the building for years while Ted was likely not medically competent to perform his duties and they collectively said and did nothing to rectify the situation.
With Murphy the rumor is that he was out of touch regarding the football-side of the operations ... still hard to believe but plausible.
With Ball, he dealt directly with Ted or whomever the real GM was in 2017 and nearly got rewarded with the job until McCarthy put his foot down.
As for Gute, he played the good corporate soldier as Ted's right-hand boy, kept his mouth shut, and is now the GM.
@Goalline posted:Scroll wheel? That's a terrible euphemism.
It’s the “Fedya wheel” and it always will be.
Re:Rodgers. I ain’t got time for this shit. I honestly care more about the weather forecast for my outdoor cocktail party this Saturday than I do about this media erection.
I seem to remember TT saying GMs call other GMs all the time even with the most goofball offers because that's what you do and maybe something takes.
This seems way off the charts but I could see how a bunch of salacious rumors thrown in with normal shop talk could be a catalyst.
I do not blame Arodg one damn bit for being pissed off. Ever since Ron Wolf retired, this organization from the GM level has been run terribly. This is the god damn 3x MVP, and not one time have you given him a "go for it" year, you are totally passive in FA, and last year you drafted Jordan f'n Love. Had they been more active in FA all these years, I'd guarantee you he wouldn't feel this way. But to NOT use FA the way they should have been is derelict of duties and says "I don't even want to make this team better".
You're going to suck once Love is QB anyway that is a FACT. So they should have loaded up the team for a few years and rolled with it. Who cares about future salary implications when Love is QB, they will suck anyway. Take a few years of high draft picks and reset.
Rooting for this incompetent franchise has been really tough ever since Ron Wolf left. They are(in their own opinions) always the smartest men in the room. far from it.
Last year The Packers opened a tinder account, fell in Love and Rodgers caught them. 😉
@Chongo posted:How do we know he's behind this?
We don’t know shit!
@Chongo posted:@packerboi wins the day!
Except for the Lawrence part. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if they trade Love to the Lions for Boyle.
He's gonna be 38 at the end of the year. He wants, or wanted, to play into his 40s. There will be no sitting out for 12 regardless of the uniform he puts on. It may be a meaningless caveat, but a HOF QB that knows his time left is at a premium doesn't hold that card to leverage. If they end up dealing him, it's because he forced their hand.
I love the guy, like I loved Brett. But if it comes down to deja vu all over again, AR can pound sand. If the FO is on display as having learned nothing from the soap opera of 2007, they can pound sand, too. If AR has truly grown into the human he wants to be at 37, and chooses anyway to make Jordan Love the scapegoat he himself was, he can see his own way out. I'll be a Packer fan long after Aaron Rodgers and, with some good health and luck, long after Jordan Love. Either make it work or move on. I'm too old for this gossip bullshit. These elite have more millions than is imaginable. This is about status and control within a very small circle, and the only result for the fan is higher mf ticket prices.
No clue if any of this stuff is true, but if it is, this is the ideal time to trade 12 I think.
He is coming off the MVP season and will be 38 years old this year. There’s only so much football life in a guy.
I’d take the #3 pick plus other picks/players and start the JL world tour.