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@Goalline posted:

I don’t give a shit who is more swell. I care who puts their team in a position to win. Brady does. Rodgers backers would rather ignore reality.

Reality is that Rodgers had a cap hit of 21.6 million and Brady had a cap hit of 25 million for the 2020 season. Sure that flips in a big way for next season (and the topic circles back to Rodgers wanting to restructure for longer term security and to kick the cap number a bit back down the road), but if Saint Tom cared only about winning he could have taken the veteran minimum.

Also insane to point to Saint Tom while criticizing how Rodgers is handling the Jordan Love pick when Saint Tom reacted to New England drafting a successor by demanding they trade his ass away.

To be fair to Rodgers, cap hit is a team problem to solve, not a player problem to solve. If the team wanted to spread the pain over 10 years with 6 dummy years instead of just a straight 4 year deal, they could certainly propose that and there would be no reason for Rodgers to decline that unless he’s just being a dick. I don’t think either of those things have happened though.

@4 Favre posted:

Reality is that Rodgers had a cap hit of 21.6 million and Brady had a cap hit of 25 million for the 2020 season. Sure that flips in a big way for next season (and the topic circles back to Rodgers wanting to restructure for longer term security and to kick the cap number a bit back down the road), but if Saint Tom cared only about winning he could have taken the veteran minimum.

Also insane to point to Saint Tom while criticizing how Rodgers is handling the Jordan Love pick when Saint Tom reacted to New England drafting a successor by demanding they trade his ass away.

I don’t care, I’m not washing his balls.

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Wow, things have gotten so bad Rodgers didn’t even attend the rookie mini camp.Who does he think he is, a 15-year veteran or something? And being somewhere else before voluntary workouts have even started?

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@Goalline posted:

4 Favre pretty much destroyed my fake numbers. He is hilarious. Now, I'd like to see him try to pwn this:

It’s pretty much a self pwn when you see the name Aaron Nagler.

I don't care what Nagler said. I should have deleted that and just copied the video. I should edit the post and ask everyone to ignore Nagler's stupid post, I guess.



DONE!

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From the article:

"Calhoun had to gently remind Love of this when they first reconnected this offseason, too. He realized Love had picked up some bad habits trying to imitate Rodgers and reeled him back in".

Thank you, Mr Calhoun.

Reason #2 the Packers should move on. They are dealing with one of the pettiest human beings on the planet. If they wanted to keep him they should have kissed his ass. They didn't. MOVE ON!

"The Packers are not blameless here. Several sources Go Long spoke to revert back to a common theme: They should’ve known.

This is an all-time grudge-holder. If Rodgers won’t let McCarthy forget about that Smith pick, if he’s unafraid to label two of his best pass-catchers ever “irrelevant” and render them pariahs, then what in the hell did the Packers expect when they drafted his heir apparent? No, Rodgers isn’t going to merely whistle while he works. He masterminds a plan that, now, has that shrapnel hitting everyone back at 1265 Lombardi Ave".

I wonder how much contempt he has for Green Bay fans considering he was booed during the Favre saga. For the record I never booed the guy, but I was a Favre loyalist and am still kinda annoyed that Boris changed my name from "Jihad 4 Favre" for being too political.... "4 Favre" as a name just looks kinda stupid but it's the shame I must bear I suppose.

And the Hawaiian acoustic guitar cringe-fest is almost too much to bear. I had to take multiple 5 minute breaks to get through the whole thing. A bit of a contradiction between happy-go-lucky hippie and his Machiavellian side though.

I'm not that interested about his group texts making fun of Gute... I really want to know what he was saying behind McCarthy's back.

@Goalline posted:

Reason #2 the Packers should move on. They are dealing with one of the pettiest human beings on the planet. If they wanted to keep him they should have kissed his ass. They didn't. MOVE ON!

"The Packers are not blameless here. Several sources Go Long spoke to revert back to a common theme: They should’ve known.

This is an all-time grudge-holder. If Rodgers won’t let McCarthy forget about that Smith pick, if he’s unafraid to label two of his best pass-catchers ever “irrelevant” and render them pariahs, then what in the hell did the Packers expect when they drafted his heir apparent? No, Rodgers isn’t going to merely whistle while he works. He masterminds a plan that, now, has that shrapnel hitting everyone back at 1265 Lombardi Ave".

They offered him a massive contract and he said no. 

Is that more Tyler Dunne crap?  Link?  I want to dissect it particularly calling Finley one of his best pass catchers ever. 

@Goalline posted:

From the article:

"Calhoun had to gently remind Love of this when they first reconnected this offseason, too. He realized Love had picked up some bad habits trying to imitate Rodgers and reeled him back in".

Thank you, Mr Calhoun.

Because Love isn't Rodgers.  He can't do what Rodgers does at this point in his career.  He needs to stick with the "Dick and Jane" fundamentals.

@Henry posted:

They offered him a massive contract and he said no.

Is that more Tyler Dunne crap?  Link?  I want to dissect it particularly calling Finley one of his best pass catchers ever.

Don't nitpick it. Let's be honest [Yeah, I'm going to quit pulling your chain for a moment]. Gute fucked it up. Aaron is gone. They need to trade him for a mountain's worth of picks and players.

@Henry posted:

Because Love isn't Rodgers.  He can't do what Rodgers does at this point in his career.  He needs to stick with the "Dick and Jane" fundamentals.

When it come to reading plays. When it comes to arm talent, you better check yourself. Love is the superior talent. Aaron is a little undisciplined with some of his throws. It will serve Love no purpose to be that.

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These articles are an interesting read, but they are from the same guy (Tyler Dunne) who wrote this back in December.

The Green Bay Packers have a plan (it's genius, too)

When the Packers drafted quarterback Jordan Love, everyone lost their minds. They took AJ Dillon and the hysteria ramped up even more. This master plan, however, just may be brilliant. Here's why.


It doesn't automatically mean that Dunne is wrong or we should discount any article from him, but he comes across as a shill for Gutekunst and/or Murphy.

The fact he is criticizing Rodgers for "being unafraid to label two of his best pass-catchers ever irrelevant" is ridiculous. When Nelson, Driver, Cobb, James Jones, or Adams is quoted as saying something like that, I'll say it was legit. I assume he's referring to Jennings and Finley. Gerg "believe in your smelf" Jennings was as big a diva as you'll ever see. He just wasn't good enough to back it up when he didn't have a HOF QB throwing him the ball. He was a very good WR that was not on D. Adams' level. Finley? Why would anyone take the guy who knocked up multiple women simultaneously at the same time his wife was pregnant seriously about anything? Finley was just one of those physically gifted freaks that got bailed out of every dumb decision he made his entire life because he had the physical skills to be a superstar. Rodgers saying that their opinions were irrelevant after they were going is exactly what anyone should say about a former teammate roasting you.

At least Marc Ross has some NFL experience and is willing to go on record, but he was fired by the Giants after his last pro personnel job. His drafts weren't exactly stellar.

The implications that Love is going to resemble Mahomes are ludicrous at this point. Mahomes threw 93 TDs against 29 interceptions in his college career. Mahomes was on a poor Texas Tech team his last year that went 5-7, but Mahomes lost games that season where the offense scored 55, 38, 59, 37, and 44 points. He threw 41 TDs against 10 interceptions on a team that gave up 41 points a game.

I've said this before, but the lack of local reporting on what Love looked like the last year in practice this astounding. Who cares what the guy who Love pays to work him out says or his buddy/backup QB at Utah State thinks about how he looked throwing a pass off his back foot against Stony Brook (LOL). I'm sure the local beat guys know people like Linsley, Jamaal Williams, Tim Boyle, Mike Pettine, etc. who saw Love in practice. They'd be sources to go to and just see what they thought, even off the record. How about opposing coaches in his college conference? Why aren't we seeing that instead of this type of stuff?

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@Henry posted:

Yeah, that's not an article.  That's the worst click bait with even worse grammar and editing.

From Steve Calhoun, his private QB coach: “He has an elite arm. He can throw the ball better than most people on the planet.”

...so can I. Half the planet are women and the other half is starving or a gay soccer player.

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@Blair Kiel posted:

From Steve Calhoun, his private QB coach: “He has an elite arm. He can throw the ball better than most people on the planet.”

...so can I. Half the planet are women and the other half is starving or a gay soccer player.

Not very high praise, is it?

@Goalline posted:

When it come to reading plays. When it comes to arm talent, you better check yourself. Love is the superior talent. Aaron is a little undisciplined with some of his throws. It will serve Love no purpose to be that.

It sounds like you are talking about Favre, not Rodgers. If there is a legitimate criticism of Rodgers over his career, it's that he values his low interception percentage over anything else and isn't willing to take chances when the situation often dictated that he should take some calculated risks.

In terms of arm talent, the Packers have had two of the top 10 arm talents in NFL history playing the last 30 years. Rodgers could lose 20% of his arm strength and still be effective. It's not fair to Love to think he's going to be superior physically in any way to Rodgers. He doesn't have to be to become a very good NFL QB.

It sounds like you are talking about Favre, not Rodgers. If there is a legitimate criticism of Rodgers over his career, it's that he values his low interception percentage over anything else and isn't willing to take chances when the situation often dictated that he should take some calculated risks.



Aaron misses passes he wouldn't if he would just set his feet. That happens when a guy is that confident in his accuracy. How do I know that? He hit those kinds of passes in 2010 and 2011 when he was more disciplined with his footwork.

Aaron is the most accurate QB in NFL history. I don't expect Love to match that, but Love can throw any kind of ball with ridiculous velocity.

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@Goalline posted:

Don't nitpick it. Let's be honest [Yeah, I'm going to quit pulling your chain for a moment]. Gute fucked it up. Aaron is gone. They need to trade him for a mountain's worth of picks and players.

Oh I agree.  I think it's done and over.  You're willing to give Dumb Gunt a pass because you're not a fan of Rodgers, which is fine.  I'm sure Rodgers is petty, etc.

I will never let Dumb Gunt off the hook because all of the good things he may have done have just been completely washed out and for the stupidest of reasons.  The Super Bowl window isn't just slammed shut it's been dry walled over and wall papered for the new baby's room.

Also, they aren't going to get that much for Rodgers.  A couple of firsts and a player maybe.

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@Goalline posted:

When it come to reading plays. When it comes to arm talent, you better check yourself. Love is the superior talent. Aaron is a little undisciplined with some of his throws. It will serve Love no purpose to be that.

Nobody said he wasn't physically talented on multiple levels.   

Who gives a shit if he brain farts into the most beautiful INT ever.

Let's also get to the meat of that idiot Dunne's writing.  There is so much bullshit conjecture in his fairy tales that he makes Schefter's takes look like an Ph.D thesis.

It's the same dumbshit Nagler approach.  Homer crap until the cows come home with the absolute worst cherry picking.  How's that JSO job going Nagler?

These guys are just fucking hacks because that's what you do in this day and age.  You make shit up with maybe kinda's, the slimmest of fact baked into a giant bullshit pie.  Works for every other stiff in this modern media environment.

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From Goalline's article:

One former member of the Packers’ front office is all but certain Rodgers will either be traded or retire.  “Put it this way: they’d have to fire everybody,” this source says. “He is dug in. They’d have to make him the freakin’ owner of the team. The sense I get is the dude just wants control.”

Trade him on June 1.

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