Gary just turned 22; he's still in the young and dumb stage, much less trying to absorb the speed, intricacies, complexities, and maturity of the pro game, as well as the money and other things that come along with being a pro athlete. Sometimes it's easy to forget how young these guys are. At 21, I was more concerned about college parties than making a living in a high-pressure, do-or-get-fired profession.
Did our 52 have better game stats than their 52?$!
The way he turned the corner on his sack against Chicago was beautiful. I doubt Cshitcago’s RT is worth a crap, but it’s exactly what I’ve been waiting to see from. If he’s truly realizing his physical ability as a pass rusher and the game is slowing down for him he could be a wrecking ball in the playoffs. Not getting my hopes up, but it’s insane how much Dime defense we can play with just our front 5! I saw 1-4 fronts and 2-3 fronts against Chicago and the Bears still couldn’t run.
This can't be. Gary is a "tweener" DL/LB that never did much in college.
But yeah, you could see his wheels on that sack. He looked like he was moving as fast vs. that OL as other guys do unimpeded.
I noticed he's working on different moves. Seemed a little awkward watching him try to do a inside spin move but at least he's working on it. Hell of bull rush though.
All he had at UM was the hump/bull rush and a lotta "go". He's been working on actual OLB pass rushing moves for all of 8 months. This is gonna be a long burn and we have the resources at the position to let it be. Anything he does for the rest of this season is a bonus.
Was thinking about Mike Smith. Last year he coached Chris Jones who was one of the years surprise players. This year its Zadarius, Preston, Fackrell and the rookie. Guy gets his position group to another level...opposite of Winston Moss .
I know I mentioned it before, but in the Bear game the few times I watched his number, he always collapsed the pocket, even as if no one was there blocking him. No doubt if some more technique gets added to his athleticism, he'll be a beast.
To be fair, Moss didn't have the Smiths or Gary. On the other hand, the Sacksmiths are having career years in their first year under Mike.
To be fair...Moss sucks. Lotsa teams beating down his door to hire him.
Um, excuse me? He's the highly successful head coach and GM of A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM.
DH13 posted:To be fair, Moss didn't have the Smiths or Gary. On the other hand, the Sacksmiths are having career years in their first year under Mike.
He did have guys like Peppers, Matthews and Perry (I guess he counts). Point being he made hardly any positive impact over his career as "Asst. HC". Plus, he's a fucking dick.
Peppers did well in his old age while in GB, Matthews was stellar (under Greene) until the final several years/age, Perry was Perry. I totally agree on the other points.
Then there's Fackrell with and without Moss.
Fackrell was all over Trubisky in his limited snaps last week. The kid gets to the QB, give him credit he’s earned.
Moss was a boat anchor on a pimple on a hog's ass!
Can't wait to see the cut from early 1Q where he gets pressure on Kurd, just misses the sack then hustles down field to tackle the receiver. Great hustle and crazy speed.
He is beginning.
I watched Rashan several times on MNF. Again, getting pretty decent push and sending OL into the QB pocket. He came really close twice to getting to Cousins, but in both cases, Z got to him first.
That's ok! He's still being disruptive in the team concept & his teammates are finishing the job.
He did the same thing at Michigan for Devin Bush.
He’s starting to put it together. Again I’ve been disappointed with his overall production and how long it’s taken him to acclimate, but if this is a sign of things to come we’re going to be just fine with this kid. Puts an NFL OT in his ass and then hustles downfield to assist with the tackle.
Last week Rashan Gary used a rip move for a sack.
— Eye In The Sky (@The_Green_Gold) December 28, 2019
This week Gary used his patented Bullrush to get pressure.
The technique/results are NOT the focus. Gary’s mechanics are the focus. 🔬👀
Gary gets a bend that if he continues to use will be lethal.#Packers pic.twitter.com/bNREtzEmW9
If it takes Gary 5 years to hit his stride, it probably won't be with the Packers.
I love the fact he just kept chasing the ball. Just missed a sack on Kark then hammered the ball carrier.
The jump from college to NFL is enormous. It takes some guys a little longer than others. I know in this defense, especially when he's on the same side as 55, he's going to make some splash plays.
Mike Smith....knows what he's doing with OLB's
The potential shows in that clip. He trucks his guy, but doesn't stop there and goes after Cousins and just misses, but doesn't stop there and smacks the receiver. Only a few guys with that kind of skill and hustle. It's there...
Very impressive clip. I continue to believe that Gary is going to be a damn good player in GB.
DH13 posted:Can't wait to see the cut from early 1Q where he gets pressure on Kurd, just misses the sack then hustles down field to tackle the receiver. Great hustle and crazy speed.
He is beginning.
It's about time someone finally posted that.
So what does the number of plays Gary had against SF indicate as to his position in the draft?
It indicates he couldn’t beat out Fackrell who had 20 to his 3. 3 bleeping snaps.
Add him to the list. Justin Harrell, Jerel Worthy, Datone Jones, Nick Perry and Rashan Gary. Am I missing any early round front 7 busts? If you want to include 3rd rounders we could add Montavious Adams, Oren Burks, and Khyri Thornton.
The only D front 7 players we’ve selected in first 3 rounds in the past NINE years that haven’t been busts are Kenny Clark and Fackrell.
Clark - 1st Year
Comb. Tackles - 21
Solo Tackles - 13
Assists - 8
Tackles for Loss - 1
QB Hits - 4
Gary - 1st Year
Comb. Tackles - 21
Solo Tackles - 13
Assists - 8
Tackles for Loss - 3
QB Hits - 3
So I guess Clark was a "bust" after his 1st year too. Or maybe you feel that getting picked at #27 is orders of magnitude different than #12. Of course, 1 guy was asked to change positions while the other wasn't.
No one know how Gary will ultimately turn out. But to call him a bust now. Laughable.
Way too premature to make any kind of judgment on Gary. If you want to criticize Gutey for poor drafting his 2018 class is a much better place to go.
It looks to me like they're trying to build Gary into playing the same kind of role Z plays. All over the line. Not saying they are equal in comparison, Gary looks more stout with maybe lesser change of direction but they could be deployed the same way. Learning that role on top of learning OLB may surely take some time.
MLF said no shoulder surgery for Gary, he wants him on the field more and he experienced a learning curve last season.
Perry First Year
Comb. Tackles - 18
Solo Tackles - 13
Assists - 5
Tackles for Loss - 1
QB Hits - 2
SACKS - 2
Datone Jones First Year
Comb. Tackles - 10
Solo Tackles - 7
Assists - 3
Tackles for Loss - 3
QB Hits - 7
SACKS 3.5
Gary - 1st Year
Comb. Tackles - 21
Solo Tackles - 13
Assists - 8
Tackles for Loss - 3
QB Hits - 3
SACKS - 2
Do you see a big difference?
TJ Watt - 1st Year
Comb. Tackles - 55
Solo Tackles - 35
Assists - 20
Tackles for Loss - 10
QB Hits - 13
SACKS - 14.5
How about now, see the difference? One of these things is not like the others.
Gary is not a play maker. Never has been. I'll be shocked if he ever is.
Based on that reasoning, Kenny Clark "is not a play maker - never has been - you'll be shocked if he ever is". Guess you're shocked.
See how that works?
BrainDed posted:Datone Jones First Year
Comb. Tackles - 10
Solo Tackles - 7
Assists - 3
Tackles for Loss - 3
QB Hits - 7
SACKS 3.5
Holy crap, I had to look back and verify that D. Jones was actually that productive as a rookies.
Sure enough, those 3.5 sacks were his high point as a Packer.
So many Packer 1st round defensive picks, so many busts.
Hope that Gary does not join them.
FinnLander posted:Based on that reasoning, Kenny Clark "is not a play maker - never has been - you'll be shocked if he ever is". Guess you're shocked.
See how that works?
Yeah I do see how it works. Thats why I copied your format. What you are not seeing is that Clark is the anomaly in the group. So yes, it can happen, but it is not likely.
Or Gary will join the long list of players who weren't productive their rookie years and then developed into good to great players like: Lane Johnson, Dontari Poe, Eric Ebron, Jadaveon Clowney, Jared Goff, Chris Carter, Roddy White, Peyton Manning, Alex Smith, Wes Welker, Melvin Gordon, Troy Aikman, and Terry Bradshaw. Lot of things happening rookie year, some handle the transition easier than others. Impossible to predict anything based on a rookie year.
Especially if they change DC's
Soon we'll have cyborgs playing and every team will have the perfect specimen playing at each position. That'll be awesome.