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PackLandVA posted:

I’m a little surprised a coach would publicly speak highly of a #1 draft pick in TC that many observers think is underperforming. 

Is there something rong with building his confidence a little? 

ammo posted:
PackLandVA posted:

I’m a little surprised a coach would publicly speak highly of a #1 draft pick in TC that many observers think is underperforming. 

Is there something rong with building his confidence a little? 

Clearly you did not read my sarcasm.  Of course a coach is gonna speak highly of a draft pick, especially a number, during TC.  So the article and quotes really aren't surprising and don't really mean much.  

13X posted:
Goalline posted:
Pakrz posted:

The kid has been in the NFL for about 6 hours.  Can we give him a chance to learn?

No! I need instant satisfaction. He needs to look like LT on every play.

Or maybe just make a single tackle after 4 quarters against a bunch of guys that won't be in the league in a couple weeks

He’ll be out of the league in a couple of years.

Something someone wrote really stands out for me.  Which is that generally a very good rusher will show it on the field right away, even if there is a lot of learning to do (technique).

I sure hope that is not necessarily true because if it is, it doesn't look good.

Let's give Gary some love here, check out these clips. In just 6 snaps played, he definitely got some great push including mowing over pro bowler Kyle Long, putting him right on his ass. He made the most out of very limited opportunity:

For this season, maybe sparing use of Gary is for the better.  He can take advantage of being fresher when other guys are tired and his sheer athleticism can be more difficult to deal with for an O-Lineman that is already fatigued.

DurangoDoug posted:

Also, that will be less wear and tear on his shoulder this year. He's already wearing some kind of brace on it and I  thought I read its something he will have to have fixed in the off season.

No surgery needed unless it becomes more of an issue, it was just speculated from some  previous players who have had a similar issue and then surgery that perhaps Gary would too. But both Gutenheimer and Gary have denied that surgery is needed or will happen. 

And if you look at his TC practices, pre-season, and now game 1, doesn't appear the shoulder is an issue at all. 

Last edited by packerboi

I have a torn Labrum (Labia??) in one shoulder and a torn Rotator Cuff in the other.  Trust me... if Gary had a serious shoulder injury there is no way in hell he'd be able to shove Kyle Long like that and put him on his ass.  The kid's shoulder if fine. 

michiganjoe posted:

Believe PFF credited him with three pressures in six snaps. Second play may very well have been a TD absent the pressure.

Incredibly good news.  3 pressures in 6 is exceptional and sure ups the odds there need not be concerns about Gary.

6 is an incredibly small data point and doesn't tell us much of anything at this point. Yeah, 3 pressures is better than 0 but we don't really know anything about this guy and won't know anything until be becomes part of a rotation. 

CWood didn’t end Cutlers career. He just stole his spirit, will & soul with “Same old Jay. We don’t need luck. We just need to be in position. Jay will throw us the ball” 

Maybe the scorchiest shade any NFL player laid on another NFL player during an on field post game interview. 

packerboi posted:

Let's give Gary some love here, check out these clips. In just 6 snaps played, he definitely got some great push including mowing over pro bowler Kyle Long, putting him right on his ass. He made the most out of very limited opportunity:

Didn’t play much, but looked awesome when he did play.

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