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Ground up rooster combs.  The job I had required me to kneel a lot (No jokes please). I repaired HVAC equipment in schools so I was on the roof a lot fixing rooftop AC units (Look at the roof at your neighborhood school and try to count the units) and kitchen eq. One day working in a kitchen I rocked back and felt a pop and pain. I was wearing a pad and kneeling on a foam mat. Workman's comp BS followed. MRI showed nothing. Therapy no help. Finally they "authorized" the gel shot. I needed help to get to my truck after it. Didn't help the knee at all. Then we fought for exploratory surgery. Since there was no evidence of damage in the MRI Comp didn't want to pay but they finally relented.

Then covid hit so surgery was delayed. Finally it happen and I had a major meniscus tear and a plica membrane tear. Most of the meniscus is gone. Can't kneel for any length of time any more so I retired at 62. Doctor told me structurely my knee is that of a 20 yr. old. I told him to give it back to him!

Knee replacement here. Ten days after surgery I was about to use only a cane and feeling great when all hell broke loose in my joint. Bleeding into the surgical site, pain galore, trip to ER. Told to take it easy and take painkillers. I did for 24 hours. Then something grew on my knee that was an inch tall and two inches long and about a quarter-inch wide and seeping and weeping. Massive infection. Doc opens up my knee to wash it all out and I do the IV antibiotics thing.

Things look good to go home on day three, but as doc unwraps the bandages, it was obvious that the infection was back. Emergency surgery to remove the prosthesis. ICU after that for 24 hours. Then IV antibiotics through a pic line and an antiobiotic-infused cement "block" in the joint and a cement rod down my inner bone. Six weeks later, all clear.

At eight weeks, I get another new knee. For 18 months all is well, but I cannot bend the knee like I should be able to, and going down stairs it doesn't bend far enough to allow me to go down or up easily; it was like a doorstop was preventing it from bending the required number of degrees. Got to Mayo Clinic (best thing in MN). Doc says, "The surgeon put in the correct knee, but a carpenter can do that. You need a different prosthesis and that requires an artist." Out comes the second knee; in goes a third. Success.

After surgery, doc says, "For god's sake, do not even shave your legs for fear of getting a cut and another infection. Your knee and muscles are like hamburger, and any infection may mean losing your leg." Today, about eight years later, my knee still hurts. I cannot run at all or kneel on it. I can walk and am able to do so most days without any limp. I go down the stairs with a bit of fear it might collapse; up is also hard.

They also discovered that I'm allergic to the primary blood thinner, warfarin, which is used to prevent clots. Once I take it, it starts to work but then goes off the charts and won't stop thinning my blood even if I go totally off it, and that's what caused the bleeding into the surgical site after the first surgery.

Moral of the story: not all knee replacements are easy peasy; some are a fukkin' bitchin' mess from start to finish. Sometimes I wish I hadn't done it, but I was walking around with no cartilage on the femur or the tibia, so every step was like sandpaper rubbing in the joint. No amount of jell was going to help. If anyone here has a replacement, I hope it goes a heck of a lot better than mine!

@Fandame posted:

Knee replacement here. Ten days after surgery I was about to use only a cane and feeling great when all hell broke loose in my joint. Bleeding into the surgical site, pain galore, trip to ER. Told to take it easy and take painkillers. I did for 24 hours. Then something grew on my knee that was an inch tall and two inches long and about a quarter-inch wide and seeping and weeping. Massive infection. Doc opens up my knee to wash it all out and I do the IV antibiotics thing.

Things look good to go home on day three, but as doc unwraps the bandages, it was obvious that the infection was back. Emergency surgery to remove the prosthesis. ICU after that for 24 hours. Then IV antibiotics through a pic line and an antiobiotic-infused cement "block" in the joint and a cement rod down my inner bone. Six weeks later, all clear.

At eight weeks, I get another new knee. For 18 months all is well, but I cannot bend the knee like I should be able to, and going down stairs it doesn't bend far enough to allow me to go down or up easily; it was like a doorstop was preventing it from bending the required number of degrees. Got to Mayo Clinic (best thing in MN). Doc says, "The surgeon put in the correct knee, but a carpenter can do that. You need a different prosthesis and that requires an artist." Out comes the second knee; in goes a third. Success.

After surgery, doc says, "For god's sake, do not even shave your legs for fear of getting a cut and another infection. Your knee and muscles are like hamburger, and any infection may mean losing your leg." Today, about eight years later, my knee still hurts. I cannot run at all or kneel on it. I can walk and am able to do so most days without any limp. I go down the stairs with a bit of fear it might collapse; up is also hard.

They also discovered that I'm allergic to the primary blood thinner, warfarin, which is used to prevent clots. Once I take it, it starts to work but then goes off the charts and won't stop thinning my blood even if I go totally off it, and that's what caused the bleeding into the surgical site after the first surgery.

Moral of the story: not all knee replacements are easy peasy; some are a fukkin' bitchin' mess from start to finish. Sometimes I wish I hadn't done it, but I was walking around with no cartilage on the femur or the tibia, so every step was like sandpaper rubbing in the joint. No amount of jell was going to help. If anyone here has a replacement, I hope it goes a heck of a lot better than mine!

Words can’t express how bad I feel for you Fandame.

@R MaN posted:

Words can’t express how bad I feel for you Fandame.

Thanks, R MaN. It's been about eight or nine years, and I've learned to live with it. I can walk pretty well for all of that mess. Despite having breast cancer about six years ago, the knee was some pretty awful stuff -- and I didn't even mention how a doctor gave me a lot of demerol without instructions how to get off of it and... let's just say that I'm really glad to be here today!

@Fandame posted:

Thanks, R MaN. It's been about eight or nine years, and I've learned to live with it. I can walk pretty well for all of that mess. Despite having breast cancer about six years ago, the knee was some pretty awful stuff -- and I didn't even mention how a doctor gave me a lot of demerol without instructions how to get off of it and... let's just say that I'm really glad to be here today!

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Bakh was on with Nagler during the draft and a couple things stood out to me.

- Bakh seemed pretty adamant that Packer fans need to get used to non-HOF QB play.  I know AR is his buddy, and nobody expects Love to be AR but he certainly isn't hyping Love at all.

- Confirmed we're going to fully be seeing MLF's offense now, and that the past offense was as much Rodgers' as it was MLF's, sometimes Rodgers overriding what MLF wanted. Also said that Rodgers having a say came with some great highlights as well as some lowlights.

@Boris posted:

Calling my shot here too.....

He gets traded (maybe the Jets😁) before trade deadline.

I doubt it. Not sure why people are looking to move an elite LT off the roster, counterproductive for Love's success. Gute is trying to build a top notch OL, not gut it.

Additionally, there would be $38M in dead cap for such a trade and the Packers can't absorb both AR and Bak $$ in the same season. ( and neither can the Jets)

Bak is a Packer for 2023 and that's a very good thing.

@Satori posted:

I doubt it. Not sure why people are looking to move an elite LT off the roster, counterproductive for Love's success. Gute is trying to build a top notch OL, not gut it.

Additionally, there would be $38M in dead cap for such a trade and the Packers can't absorb both AR and Bak $$ in the same season. ( and neither can the Jets)

Bak is a Packer for 2023 and that's a very good thing.

Not looking to move him at all. But he's  probably gone after this year and they might be able to get a haul for him Mid-Season.

Salary Cap can be "massaged"

Is it likely? No. Is it possible? Yes. Called going out on a limb and not afraid to be Rong!

I think moving Bakh is rong, whether you called it or not.

Now if David, his young bride & newborn daughter want to start their lives someplace else in 2024 ? That's fine, Packers will accommodate.

But trying to move him midseason is silly because the compensation is unlikely to match the player at that point. If you look at the recent LT trades, they mainly happen in the offseason because the LT needs time to learn the offense.

And why would GB sabotage Love's inaugural season over a future pick ?
Gute bet his career on Love, he's not going to trade away the best LT and OL anchor in the middle of season 1.

On the cap side, the $38M was already paid out to Bakh on his signing bonus, so the Packers have to eat that money at some point. Unfortunately, there is no cap massage available for those specific dollars , it all accelerates to GB cap

Trading Bakh midseason just doesn't seem to work on any level.

So there are some rumblings if Bakh is becoming a problem child going into the season?

First, there was the interview he did a couple of months ago insisting that the Packers are in total rebuild mode and using the word "they" vs us in referring to the team.

For a refresher on that story, In April, Rodney wrote as follows:

It’s fair to wonder whether the decision-makers in Green Bay regret cutting that big check after listening to Bakhtiari’s remarks on a recent Bussin’ with the Boys podcast. It may only have been offseason banter between three friends, but what the 11-year veteran from Colorado said to co-hosts and ex-NFL players Will Compton and Taylor Lewan was very troubling.

Bakhtiari seemed upset with the organization for trading close friend Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, so much so that he continually referred to the Packers as “they.” The decision to use that particular pronoun sure came off as a deliberate attempt by Bakhtiari to distance himself from the franchise that drafted him a decade ago and has paid him in excess of $140M.

Even more troubling was the way Bakhtiari spoke about the Packers’ chances to win next season. He uttered the word “rebuild” multiple times, even though general manager Brian Gutekunst and coach Matt LaFleur have gone out of their way to avoid using the R-word. While you could argue that Bakhtiari was just being truthful, there’s no defending what he said about midway through the podcast when explaining why the Packers held the leverage in trade talks with the Jets.

“The Packers are rebuilding whether you think so or not,” Bakhtiari surmised. “[Some people will say] ‘Could they be good, I really don’t know.’ More people are going to think they’re [the Packers] going to be more bad than good, right? That’s fair to say. Then, they [the Packers] will say, ‘We’re going to suck anyways, we want what we want, and we’re not going to bend to anyone, so we’ll just eat it [Aaron Rodgers’ $58.5M guaranteed contract]. Stay unretired, we’ll pay you [Rodgers].'”

Bakhtiari was just getting warmed up. He went on to speculate from the Packers’ point of view why they were in no rush to trade Rodgers and would be willing to hold out for as long as possible to get the right combination of draft picks.

“If we’re going to do it, it’s going to be on our terms,” Bakhtiari continued. “If not, what we’re going to be Super Bowl contenders anyways? We’ll eat it, you [Rodgers] can hang on the side, pay you your money, we’ll suck anyways, and get the picks.”



Then, he posts this last night which many are considering a rip on the Packers communication staff for putting this together:

Jason Wahlers is the VP of Communications.





Now, it's entirely possible this is much-a-do about nothing. But you also wonder if we are going to witness Josh Sitton 2.0 if Bakh isn't fully onboard with "The Packer way" in what most assume is going to be his last season as a Packer (he has a huge cap hit in '24). If Zach Tom, who filled in nicely at LT, has a really strong camp... Is Bakh traded by September?

Last edited by packerboi

You know Bacteria wants out. His buddies are gone. He's married his hottie. He's gotten paid. The Packers are projected not to compete for a Lombardi for at least a couple of years. Barring and injury to himself or the rest of the line getting decimated, I expect him to be traded when it benefits the Packers the most Compensation/capwise.

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