Early sign at practice not good sign for Rodgers playing. In portion of practice open to media Flynn working as No. 1 QB n Tolzien No. 2
Originally Posted by FreeSafety:
Hey now...Flynn and the Packer offense were awesome..........for half the game.......against the worst defense in the NFL............
Surprisingly enough, you are rong . 
Flynn wasn't awesome, as noted in this excellent in-depth article from Football Outsiders about the Packers-Cowboys game
http://www.footballoutsiders.c.../film-room-tony-romo
See if you can take it up a notch, its crunch time in the NFL and we're going to need more than an average/ mediocre effort from you around here. IT IS TIME
Having a No. 4 offense does not necessarily make the overall team better than average or mediocre. See vs. CHI, PHI, NYG, DET for the REST of the story.
I think scoring is a much better stat than yards and magically we are still 12th in the NFL in scoring offense. Guess who is #13? The almighty 49ers! And they have had their QB the whole season.
"what I enjoy most about the show is she's apolitical and just lays out the facts of each case."
Yes, her and Maddow are completely apolitical. They probably get together on Saturdays to discuss cookie recipes.
I can't get over the fact that someone intelligent enough to use the word apolitical actually beliefs this.
Originally Posted by DH13:
Having a No. 4 offense does not necessarily make the overall team better than average or mediocre. See vs. CHI, PHI, NYG, DET for the REST of the story.
Couple of quick questions from the Begoggled Homer:
1) Do average or mediocre teams author the greatest road comeback in the 90 year history of the franchise ?
2) Are we allowed to look at the wins when assessing the Packers relative merits or do only the losses count when making those assessments ?
Thanks in advance for your thoughtful response DH, appreciate your insight
The only stat that really matters is the old W and L column.
Originally Posted by FreeSafety:
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by packerboi:
Without Rodgers for 7 games, #Packers offense still ranks No. 4 in NFL (averaging 397.2 total yards)
I'm not certain, but I think No 4 is somewhat above average, correct ?
I get so confused at the difference between facts and opinions sometimes
Is this ranking a fact or an opinion ?
I was told the Packers are mediocre without Rodgers, yet here they are at number 4.... without Rodgers.
The No 4 ranking includes the yards compiled in the 7 games AR played in.
It does not say they are No 4 without AR.
How does this compare to Points - the only Offensive category that matters.
1. Team of Destiny... hey, isn't that the name of ARs gf?
2. You can look at the wins as long as they don't skew the view, or screw the view.
Right now the Packers have won 2 in a row. Making it to 3 in a row is what matters. Don't really care how it happens or who contributes.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by DH13:
Having a No. 4 offense does not necessarily make the overall team better than average or mediocre. See vs. CHI, PHI, NYG, DET for the REST of the story.
Couple of quick questions from the Begoggled Homer:
1) Do average or mediocre teams author the greatest road comeback in the 90 year history of the franchise ?
2) Are we allowed to look at the wins when assessing the Packers relative merits or do only the losses count when making those assessments ?
Thanks in advance for your thoughtful response DH, appreciate your insight
You're welcome, Alfred. Your "No.4 does not equal mediocre!" post implied a lack of balance on your part. I was just equaling out the equation. If you don't want the obvious shoved in your face maybe you need to be less careless. But I guess your argument is to prove to everybody this team is better than 7-6-1? I really enjoy most of your posts but that one was a doozy.
Originally Posted by Pikes Peak:
The only stat that really matters is the old W and L column.
Rong.
The only stats that matter are ones that support pre-existing opinions.
Never mind the fact the team is 2-4-1 vs some pretty poor teams since AR went down.
I don't know how anyone could could consider 2-4-1 average or mediocre....I mean obviously it is a terrific record because the Packers are the greatest team eveh!!!!!!
To say the only stat that matters is W & L is pretty myopic, but we could sure save a lot of bandwidth.
"Did the Pack win?"
"Yup."
"Ok."
The next most active thread would be "Fedya's movies to Tivo"
Don't forget the "Megyn Kelly's Fact-Based, Apolitical Analysis" thread.
Got it and to be perfectly honest DH, most of that was an inside joke/jest
You can shove whatever comments you like in my face; just have some facts and maybe a little context to back it up. I don't think that's an unreasonable request and you're certainly welcome to sort things anyway you like.
I'll try not to annoy you with "favorable" packer posts and facts going forward.
I imagine it gets quite tiresome reading pro packer posts on a Packers message board
My bad, won't happen again
an anagram for "Megyn Kelly's Apolitical Analysis" is "A Panacea Molesting Silkily Slyly"
Proof
Now you're just being a putz by labeling me as some kind of negative Nellie, which is annoying. And careless, again, on your part. I am as impressed as the next guy with what this team has done the last couple weeks but I'm not going to be delusional about how good they currently are. Will AR's return (if we see it this year) flip the table and make the D good enough for the team to have a shot in the playoffs? Maybe. But as they stand they're 7-6-1 eereegardless of their O rank.
I'm not labeling anybody and I've always enjoyed your work here as noted in my post above.
Do whatever you like, post whatever you like. That's what this place is all about
Just remember this:
Time Flies
Like an Arrow
Fruit Flies
Like Bananas
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
an anagram for "Megyn Kelly's Apolitical Analysis" is "A Panacea Molesting Silkily Slyly"
Proof
You can do this kind of thing, but you can't use Google?
Found on the internet:
- Rodgers practiced well today. Will have a conversation tomorrow about him. Looked very good at practice. Not cleared to play.
- (Since last week Rodgers advancement) He looked sharp. He looks better this week. He looks ready to play.
Read more from Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/...1.html#ixzz2nx0286QR Follow us: @JournalSentinel on Twitter
YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE....
Really?
"I'll try not to annoy you with "favorable" packer posts and facts going forward.
I imagine it gets quite tiresome reading pro packer posts on a Packers message board
My bad, won't happen again "
The greatest trick the devil Satan ever played was convincing us he didn't exist.
Jolly Is OUT!
He'll be missed. Hopefully Boyd can continue to harrass what is a poor OL.
NFP says Jolly is headed to IR! Neck injury, but not expecting to be career ending.
I wonder where NFP gets their info. I don't see anything about this on any of the other local outlets. All I've seen is Jolly was DNP status. That would be a blow if he's gone to IR.
Originally Posted by Brak:
You can do this kind of thing, but you can't use Google?
I forgot to add "found on internet"
do I sound smarter now?
The combined record of the teams we have played without Rodgers is 43-54 (at the end of week 15). What's the combined record of the teams we played with Rodgers? 45-52. Rodgers went 5-2 against a poor schedule, Flynn/Tolzien went 2-4-1 against an equally poor schedule. Color me shocked!
I can't get over the fact that someone intelligent enough to use the word apolitical actually beliefs this.
wow! really? I try not to be intolerant of others "beliefs"...but I question where some of you get your information....hopefully not from the Alphabet Networks....I try to watch shows that at least shows both points of view and are truly the watchdog for our nation...
I'm guessing some of you watch ESPN, too....really?
Originally Posted by DH13:
Really?
"I'll try not to annoy you with "favorable" packer posts and facts going forward.
I imagine it gets quite tiresome reading pro packer posts on a Packers message board
My bad, won't happen again "
The greatest trick the devil Satan ever played was convincing us he didn't exist.
More inside jokes kind sir and it wasn't fair to drag you in without knowing the comedy behind it. Love the Satan comment; very existential
Go Packers
RE: SDPF
Breathtaking. The idea that ESPN is to sports as FOX is to news never crossed your mind?
Originally Posted by DH13:
I wonder where NFP gets their info.
Jack Bechta, an NFL agent is a contributor at NFP and he also represents Johnny Jolly
Sucks.
You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by FreeSafety:
Hey now...Flynn and the Packer offense were awesome..........for half the game.......against the worst defense in the NFL............
Surprisingly enough, you are rong .
Flynn wasn't awesome, as noted in this excellent in-depth article from Football Outsiders about the Packers-Cowboys game
http://www.footballoutsiders.c.../film-room-tony-romo
See if you can take it up a notch, its crunch time in the NFL and we're going to need more than an average/ mediocre effort from you around here. IT IS TIME
Interesting analysis. I think the biggest factor was McCarthy giving plays that match the skills of Flynn. Flynn seems to be getting better the more he plays and practices. This could be why McCarthy is making the decision today.
Originally Posted by DH13:
RE: SDPF
Breathtaking. The idea that ESPN is to sports as FOX is to news never crossed your mind?
I didn't say that at all.
THANK you. RT @TomSilverstein People, stop thinking Mike McCarthy has a say in whether Rodgers plays. It's McKenzie & Thompson. End of story
If that's true, interesting...
Talked to BJ Raji, said J Jolly told d-line about his injury last night. Says Jolly sticking around. Had provided big emotional lift.
